120Hz / 3D panels?

Is it possible to get a Clevo P150HM or P170HM with a 120Hz screen? With a 485m that would make a killer combo.

 

At this point, I have not seen any options available for that kind of setup. It has been one of the more common questions I have been seeing, however, so it wouldn't surprise me to see something like that available in the future.

 

I posted about this a few days ago. You can find the thread here

Short answer is yes, long answer is no but.

You can't get a 1080p 120hz screen. They just don't exist yet at that size. However, sellers like Mythlogic CAN get you a 1366x768 120hz capable screen. I assume it's the same one used in the 3D version of the Asus G series or the new XPS 17.

 

Wait a minute, what about the panel in the Aus G73 3D version? It's 1080p and 120Hz, and it sure as hell exists.

 

Isn't that a 17" laptop as well? We're talking about 15" I thought. 17" there are several 3d screens available including XPS, AW, Asus etc, so you have to be able to get one after market.

 

Its not that simple guys =)

While those screens exist @ 17.3" they are usually "special" in the fact that there is some software on the laptop side that helps make them go and not just a simple plug-n-play solution

 

Guys, forget about 3D displays in laptops. Its been already proven by most scientists that watching or playing games in 3D will negatively affect your health (epilepsy, eye or brain disies)

Simply, enjoy 3D movies in cinema once upon a time, forget about 3D screens at home.

 

Well as Mythlogic pointed out, that screen isn't available for the Clevo chassis. It's not simply plug and play. I think you've answered your own question then. If you want 1080p and 120hz, you're going to need the Asus G73 17" if that sports it. I haven't seen any of the 17" models that had 1080p AND 3d vision 120hz support though. It looks like the G73jw and the G73SW both come with 1080p, but no 3d vision support.

Correct me if I'm wrong on those models though.

 

Just plug it into your 120 hz 50" in the living room

 

The G73jw-3DE and G73sw-3DE (for US market) and G73jw-91**** and G73sw-91**** (for Europe) do have 120Hz 1080p screens. I'd get one, but the 460m just doesn't cut it for me (especially for 3D gaming).

That's why I'm looking for something with a powerful GPU and 120Hz.

 

Well that's why I couldn't find it. It's also pre-order only like ours. I'd just give up on it, I looked into finding a 120hz screen as well since i already have 3D Vision at home. I figure I'll just end up plugging the laptop into my monitor or TV that I already use for my desktop. I'm not sure I'd want to be playing 3D games in public anyway since the glasses are expensive and easy to lose (and the emitter isn't built into the laptop, so that'd be another USB accessory to carry around.

I'll just stick with my super awesome Anaglyph 3D Glasses when traveling. At $9 a pop, they aren't pricey to lose and don't need another box to run

(And in all honesty, Nvidia does a pretty darn good job with the anaglyph 3d vision software too)

 

those are super classy lookin to boot! i bet you use them as your every day pair of sunglasses too

 

But they probably work great to add some... color.. to life! They make real life in 3D too!

Plus I can play Minecraft in anaglyph 3D with them...

 

I tried with NVidia 270.61 drivers, and there is no way of setting a 3D environment with Anaglyph graphics. Can you tell us how?

 

Uh, what?

Mr. Mysterious

 

Have you tried going through the Nvidia control panel > Stereoscopic 3d > ticking the checkbox > running the setup wizard?

The wizard will give you an option to configure "3D Vision Discover" which is the anaglyph glasses. Nvidia should have bundled it in with the Driver + 3D Vision package now.

 

As of today this 120Hz 3D screen with the 485M is ready to order in the Sager NP8170 S-1...
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Yes, it's the only notebook that comes both with the highest end GPU (485M) and 3D screen.

 

Well I'm sure in 2 years there will be 3D 120Hz screens that are 15.6" and will be compatible with the 8130/50

Mr. Mysterious

 

Technically they're available now, but they're also proprietary models being used by other manufacturers and not yet offered by Sager/Clevo.

 

Yo, why only with the s-1 ? Why not with a standard p170hm ??? Honestly I don't want the other stuff, I just want to get the 485 and standard everything else, I will upgrade what I need over time ...

 

any word ?

 

P170HM is nolonger being sold by Sager is what I hear. Only the S-1 model is going to be available.

If you really want custom/rare parts then you can always buy the barebones chassis. I hear its $700 or something. You provide your own CPU, GPU, RAM, drives, Wifi, and LCD screen. You'll have to find someone who will sell it to you though. Sager won't but there are some places that do. I have heard about people doing that on some forums.

 

Yep, looks like Sager is only offering the S1 now, that would explain things.

 

When I open the NVIDIA Control panel I do not have "Stereoscopic 3D" menu where I can "tick the checkbox". I dont have an external monitor connected. From what I read, I need to connect to my TV via HDMI to be able to just activate the stereoscopic 3D.
Can anyone access the Stereoscopic menu in Nvidia panel, on a laptop that is not connected to an external monitor/TV, using the latest Nvidia drivers?

 

You can't activate it without a supported display. That setting is for the 120Hz 3D, not anaglyph. For anaglyph 3D, check here: http://www.nvidia.com/object/3d-vision-discover-main.html

 

Been there. So no Anaglyph 3D for laptops. This says it all:
"GeForce-enabled notebooks now support 3D Vision External Displays. Please download the latest Verde Notebook 3D Vision driver CD."

 

That doesn't specifically mean anything. The new P170HM3 has the built in emitter and 120hz screen and it works natively there. I'll have to try this out on a P150HM and see what the problem is. I'll update once I go test it out. (As a side note, this used to work on older gen hardware just fine, unless Nvidia removed support for it recently)

EDIT: It looks like they do a device detection phase when you run the setup that won't let you go any further if your laptop doesn't have a 120hz display. This is disappointing as previous drivers on older hardware had support for it without this check. The only other option right now (unless Nvidia fixes this) is to go with a third party.

 

Any updates on these? Still curious why only the 485 works with them and not the ATI cards, or other nVidia cards, for that matter.

 

1) ATI cards can output stereoscopic 3D, but ATI hasn't developed any support for it and left that to game developers. I hear you can watch 3D movies, though. NVidia, on the other hand, actively develops and looks after 3D support in games.
2) With an ATI card it's up to you to choose a pair of 3D shutter glasses and IR emitter or even polarised glasses and a display that supports them.
3) The system integrated in the the laptop is Nvidia's 3D Vision Kit, which is a pair of nVidia-branded 3D shutter glasses and an integrated IR emitter, which is only compatible with nVidia's drivers and hence an nVidia card. There is a slight possibility that you can hack the emitter to work with other systems, but that's a long shot.
4) 485m is the only card avalable that is powerful enough to play newer games in 3D at acceptable performance.

 

I'm on NVIDIA's side because of their support for 3D. I still believe that AMD makes better graphics cards though

Mr. Mysterious

 

So does that mean the screen will work with the ATI card for movies, and just not games?

 

The screen - sure, but the integrated IR emitter for the shutter glasses - probably not. You'd have to buy a separate solution. But so far there isn't any other USB IR emitter for PCs on the market except for nVidia's. So 3D on ATi would have to be watched on an external display, beating the whole purpouse of P170HM3.
See bottom of this page: http://www.amd.com/us/products/technologies/amd-hd3d/pages/supported-hardware.aspx

 

So if I want a Matte screen(17"), I have to wait for new screens to come out or get the P170HM3 screen and not use the 3D?

 

I have Sager NP8170-S1 with stock 17,3" Standart screen (FullHD Super Glossy) and GTX485M
Can I upgrade my screen to the 120Hz 3D ?
What the mark (articule) of this 120Hz 3D-ready screen?

 

Isn't the B173HW01 V.5 available? (It's 60Hz though)

 

I would suggest getting the NP8170-3D as this will give you these features even if you don't use 3D functionality. 120Hz in 2D, 72% gamut, and the option to connect to a 3DTV over HDMI using nVIDIA 3DTV without paying additional license and 3D hardware.

 

Yeah, I can get that on eBay, sarge. As long as they're still there. Buying the 3D does make sense though, since it's the same price pretty much for double the Hz, same gamut as the non-3D matte screens, and the ability for 3D. Down the road, if I had a 3D TV I wanted to plug in, would I need the 485 to do so?

 

Please anybody help me
I have Sager NP8170-S1 with stock 17,3" Standart screen (FullHD Super Glossy) and GTX485M
Can I manually upgrade my notebook to the 3D?
Can I replace screen panel? can I install IR emitter? or installed emitter in left side of notebook (stock IR) enough and they can work as 3D emitter?

 

If you use a 3D TV, it won't matter what type of screen you have on you notebook
An ATI card would probably work for watching 3D movies on an external screen, if the screen comes with its own glasses.
If the price is the same, then sure, get the 3D version.