@Ethrem is the best to check as he has the SM-A variant. If I throw in my heatsinks tomorrow I'll take out the keyboard and give it a look and see where my screen is plugged into.
Also that circle is orange, if yours shows that as red you need serious colour calibration O_O
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LOL point taken, was posting from a mobile phone so didn't see the real color, just assumed it would be red.
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Just curious the 120hz screen has gloss or matt panels, is there a significant difference between them in terms of colors/contrast etc?
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I would not know. The ones we have are Matte. There was only one Glossy type made and finding sales are a bit difficult.
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Okay, so I got my heatsink installed. Checked under the keyboard for ya. My system's mobo appears to be laid out slightly differently. Where you linked your connectors I had an "emitter cable", so I'm not gonna bother tearing down the machine to see XD.
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Thanks, I forgot you had the P370sm3 3d model. The service manual only mentions the 3D screen cable so assume there is only a EDP port and the 3d emitter one. No LVDS connector at all.
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I can't get to those cables without taking apart basically the whole machine so I have no idea either.
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Yes, it's a complete strip down to get to the motherboard, I did that to my friend's P375sm-a since he wanted to know if it had the EDP port.
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Top one is InnoLux, bottom one is the LG panel
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Well I've sent off an email to Eurocom regarding the cable. Also inquired about emitters. I've never messed around with 3d before, could be fun for doing things like 3d drawings. We'll see about games and movies, might give me a headache. Not sure yet. If worst comes to worst I could get an external 3d monitor
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I advise people that best option for us that we have the stock screens 60% NTSC color gamut is to buy from HID EVOLUTION the 90% ntsc screen,plug and play.
Because its too risky with the connectors to order...and to order the right screen (120hz)
I sent them email if they can give me any discount for that
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Be careful and make sure you have the required LVDS cable for that 90% ntsc screen. Some P37x notebooks come supplied with EDP cables like mine. Verify in hwinfo64 the connection type currently being used.
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Really oh god when i get home i see what i have...
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this is what it says:
General information
Monitor Name: Chi Mei 173HGE
Monitor Name (Manuf): N173HGE-L11 CMO N173HGE-L11
Serial Number: Unknown
Date Of Manufacture: Week: 2, Year: 2011
Monitor Hardware ID: Monitor\CMO1720
Max. Vertical Size: 21 cm
Max. Horizontal Size: 38 cm
Advanced parameters
Input Signal: Digital
Display Type: RGB color
Gamma Factor: 2.20
DPMS Modes
Standby: Not Supported
Suspend: Not Supported
Active Off: Not Supported
Standard Colour Space: Not Supported
Preferred Timing Mode: Supported
Default GTF Supported: Not Supported
DFP 1.x Compatible: No
Supported Video Modes
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I think yours is LVDS, here's mine below, it states Displayport:
[General information]
Monitor Name: Chi Mei [Unknown Model: CMN1735]
Serial Number: Unknown
Date Of Manufacture: Week: 50, Year: 2012
Monitor Hardware ID: Monitor\CMN1735
Max. Vertical Size: 21 cm
Max. Horizontal Size: 38 cm
[Advanced parameters]
Input Signal: Digital
Color Bit Depth: 6 Bits per Primary Color
Digital Video Interface Standard Supported: DisplayPort
Display Type: Monochrome/grey scale
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Got a cable + instructions coming from Eurocom. I could do a writeup on installation if that would be helpful to anyone
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Well yes at the ADVANED PARAMETERS it doesn't say anywhere Digital Video Interface Standard Supported: DisplayPort. Only this:
Input Signal: Digital
Display Type: RGB color
Gamma Factor: 2.20
Are you sure buddy??
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Download and run "moninfo" and look at the connector it's on.
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Sure way to confirm is to take apart the screen bezel and look at the video connector on the LCD itself, should be 40 pin LVDS. I haven't seen the N173HGE-L11 offered as anything but LVDS.kolias likes this.
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ok I run this program and shows that stuff
Monitor
Manufacturer............. Chi Mei
Plug and Play ID......... CMO1720
Data string.............. N173HGE-L11
Serial number............ n/a
Manufacture date......... 2011, ISO week 2
Filter driver............ None
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EDID revision............ 1.3
Input signal type........ Digital
Color bit depth.......... Undefined
Display type............. RGB color
Screen size.............. 380 x 210 mm (17.1 in)
Power management......... Not supported
Extension blocs.......... None
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DDC/CI................... Not supported
Color characteristics
Default color space...... Non-sRGB
Display gamma............ 2.20
Red chromaticity......... Rx 0.640 - Ry 0.333
Green chromaticity....... Gx 0.303 - Gy 0.613
Blue chromaticity........ Bx 0.154 - By 0.060
White point (default).... Wx 0.313 - Wy 0.329
Additional descriptors... None
Timing characteristics
Range limits............. Not available
GTF standard............. Not supported
Additional descriptors... None
Preferred timing......... Yes
Native/preferred timing.. 1920x1080p at 60Hz (16:9)
Modeline............... "1920x1080" 138.700 1920 1968 2000 2080 1080 1083 1088 1111 -hsync -vsync
Standard timings supported
Report information
Date generated........... 3/10/2015
Software revision........ 2.60.0.972
Data source.............. Real-time 0x0100
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I thought you wanted the monitor name.
http://www.panelook.com/N173HGE-L11_Innolux_17.3_LCM_parameter_12343.html
It's LVDS 100%
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Here's mine, again it states displayport so if you just have digital it should be LVDS:
Monitor
Manufacturer............. CMN
Plug and Play ID......... CMN1735
Serial number............ n/a
Manufacture date......... 2012, ISO week 50
Filter driver............ None
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EDID revision............ 1.4
Input signal type........ Digital (DisplayPort)
Color bit depth.......... 6 bits per primary color
Color encoding formats... RGB 4:4:4
Screen size.............. 380 x 210 mm (17.1 in)
Power management......... Not supported
Extension blocs.......... None
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ok buddy now its 100%
sorry guys for the trouble and also thank you guys
edit: also its says here too
http://www.eurocom.com/ec/components(253)ecLast edited: Mar 10, 2015 -
OK just received my spd1 screen. Better fit than the SPF1 by far. To fit it all into the existing notebook lid you will have to snap off 3/4 of the mounting brackets around the lcd, one on top right and both bottom ones.
The screen is one of the thin varieties and does not have any side mounting holes.
To mount it you will have to get inventive with tape/velcro/heat gel etc. I use dual lock stickers on each corner and mounted it on the top lid cover. The thickness of the dual lock gives a needed cushioning effect as well as make up for the difference in thickness between this screen and the original one so there is less gap around the bezel of the notebook cover. You will want to leave additional room around the edges of the bezel so as not to cause additional IPS glow from the pressure.
As for operating system etc, the EDID was correctly setup so native resolutions etc are perfect without needed to use CRU. However I did add two more 'native' refresh rates of 75hz and 100hz. Yes, this panel can be overclocked to 100hz so as to lessen the ghosting effects from a higher response rate than the TN panels.
The Clevo hot keys FN+F8/F9 will not work still. To even allow brightness control from windows power options etc you will need to add a reg key under the Nvidia keys found at:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\
Search for Nvidia
Add a reg_dword EnableBrightnessControl with a value of 1
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What? Is that an IPS panel then? Are you thinking that increasing refresh rate helps high response times? That actually makes the ghosting etc worse. The LOWER your refresh rate goes, the higher the acceptable response time is required.
60Hz = ~16ms max is tolerable.
120Hz = ~8ms max is tolerable.
25ms @ 60Hz would perceive less ghosting than 25ms @ 100Hz.
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Yes, both spf1 and spd1 are IPS panels, the difference is the spf1 has the driver circuits mounted on a foiled board under the LCD so it adds an extra 11mm to the height. On the P377sm-a screen housing there is a steel bar that sits directly under the main LCD panel. This steel bar blocks the SPF1 from being mounted in the housing. The SPF1 has the circuit board wrapped around to the back of the LCD hence it doesn't have this issue.
Now the reason I say running the screen at 100hz has less ghosting than at 60hz is from running testufo.com This websites shows the ghosting at 100hz/50hz/25hz simultaneously so you can directly compare.
100hz means refresh every 10ms, 60hz means a refresh every 16ms. Even though the IPS panels have a typical response time of 25ms that is for white to black to white not the grey to grey quoted for TN panels. I don't know how to directly compare the response rates between these 2 measured values but I can say the IPS panel is more response than older TN I have used previously that had 16ms grey to grey response times. 100hz defintely has less blurring than 60hz to my eyes. -
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Response times of colour to colour vary which confuses the issue, smaller changes can take more time due to the lower voltage change. Often grey to grey time is the highest. So a colourful game could actually do better.
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Hey man any update on how this worked?... I have a 120hz display with a edp cable but I am not brave enough to disassemble the whole laptop to connect the edp cable to the motherboard...I am interested in these IPS displays and the 90%NTSC from HIDevolution if anyone has anymore info on ANY of this or the topic of replacing the screen in a NP9377SM-A I would be very interested....my laptop now is getting sent out for an RMA because of some Windows10 and Nvidia driver bug bricked my display or corrupted the EDID...So I just want more info about all this just to be informed if for some reason in the future I would decide to try a different display panel thanks guys and sorry if anyone is upset that I brought this old thread back up!
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Look i was interested to buy the 120hz panel but after i heard that you must buy and the connector...and that they selling that...i back up fast.
So i decided to buy the 90% color gamut!!
I can tell you that this screen is amazing!!!
I mean the colors are something else!!!!
I love it!!!!
Before i had the shei mai screen,not even close....
I bought from hide evolution for 160$ i think.
No dead pixel.
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The 90% panel is pretty decent, the one I had in my P570WM reached 100hz too.
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if I got the 90% one is it lvds? as in all I would need to do is remove the display bezal take a few screws out disconnect the cable?
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Yes its lvds.
Check your screen conector what you have and then order it.
if you don't have it already you must order it too.
its very simple to change it.
watch on youtube this video.
its excactly the same steps:
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
All none 120hz screens in this model use the same connector and connector placement.
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hey @Meaker I am sorry but what do you mean by this? I sent my laptop in for RMA because the display stopped working and the laptop was just acting crazy, so the same thing that is going on with the Alienware laptops ( something with Windows 10 with nvidia's drivers and possibly something to do with the UEFI) happened to me on my np9377sm-a the screen I had in at the time is just the standard 60hz Chi Min? (sorry not sure about the spelling) which is a lvds connection...thing is I have a 120hz display and the edp cable since my motherboard has 2 connections on it one for lvds one for edp but to connect the edp cable to the motherboard you literally have to take the entire laptop apart which I don't currently have the confidence in myself to try and do that its really complicated. So since Xotic won't install it no matter what I say to them I offered to pay them I said I understand it wouldn't have a warranty but nope they won't do it, but I just recently found out Eurocom would do it but they are in Canada and to have it done is expensive and I'm not sure but could possibly void my warranty with Xotic. SO I was thinking of selling it and the cable and then buying this 90% NTSC display that I believe is lvds so that would just mean it would be a simply swap of the of the 2 displays....correct me if I am wrong please
thanks man
P.S. So now I am stuck with this cheap Toshiba Satellite P55W touchscreen I got for $150 from some local pawn shop that is actually decent for the price but its not a Sager thats for sure! I am going through gaming withdrawals...anyone know how long it will realistically take for the RMA to be done and sent back to me? I mailed it 3-day shipping on Tuesday morning...they told me once they receive it 3-5 days but I am thinking it will be longer than that? Okay thanks -
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Yes as I said all none 120hz panels that were sold with this model use the same connector. The 90% panel is not a 120Hz panel and your old 72% panel is not a 120Hz panel and so they share the same connector.
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@Brent R. and how much you thinking of selling the 120hz and the conector??
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
That too
brain fart moment there.
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Yeah, been there, done that.
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
Screens will always be a bit confusing connector wise it seems.
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I think CEG has sended me also the wrong one but in the Clevo Database it is called an EDP cable with exact same part number. Do you have an picture of your new received cable or better the correct part number for EDP 50 pin cable.
My cable is the same as your picture 6-43-P37E1-020-J LVDS.
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Did you manage to find out if the 120hz upgrade is avaiable for the P375SMA?
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What's the correct cable number? I was considering buying the combo (screen + cable) from Brent R. he has the exact same one as this one that you guys asked for the return, btw do you have the kit 120hz screen + right cable for sale? I plan to upgrade my P375SMA (it has the edp port on the mobo, I already checked).
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clevo-extreme Company Representative
By spare parts data base is only one cable and this is lvds 6-43-p37e1-011-c
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Or this one 6-43-p37e1-030-j this is edp cable but exist only by p377sm-a
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Is it possible to fit this cable 6-43-p37e1-030-j on the P375SM? Because P375SM has the EDP conector on the mobo just as well:
PICTURE OF THE P375SM MOBO BY THE USER KANTANA ( http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/120hz-screen-for-np9377sm-a.770505/page-10#post-9949638)
... Also, would I be able to purchase the screen + the cable with you?
120hz screen for np9377sm-a
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