1440x900 on a 17" Sager/Clevo?

Does Sager/Clevo have a 17" that has a 1440x900 screen that has a 8800GTX also?

 

Yes, the Sager NP6790 has the 1440x900 screen.

 

It can be upgraded to a 8800GTX?

 

As far as I know, the only clevo seller around here with that screen on an m57ru (which can be upgraded to 8800m gtx) is eurocom. YOu might want to take a look http://web.eurocom.com/EC/ec_model_config1(1,189,0)

 

Ah, so your original question really had 2 parts...is there a Sager/Clevo 17" screen with the 1440x900 resolution AND the 8800M GTX...

Sorry, but the answer is no

As bhattsan says, your best bet would be to check with Eurocom.

 

Why would you want a WXGA+ screen in such a high-end notebook?

 

Games better in native resolution and I like big pixels.

 

Just a totally personal, subjective response, but Ughh! I've got 1050x1400 on a 14.1" vaio - for which that resolution works fine; scaling it up to a 17" though, even the thought is painful.

 

He likes to read text on occasion?

 

Thats true, but with a high-end videocard like an 8800M GTX, you can play games at native with other higher resolutions perfectly.

And if you want to, you can downscale the resolution on a high-resolution screen to a lower resolution without getting negative image quality.

I have ran new games on my 2 year old notebook with 7800GTX in both native 1920x1200 and as low as 1280x800.... both looks great.... no bad blurs or stretches.

 

WUXGA is the best resolution for a laptop with the 8800M GTX...

 

I owned a Dell e1705 w/7900GS that had 1440x900 and I thought it was perfect. Gamed awesome! My friend had the 1900x1200 in his Dell with the same gpu and while the games looked good he never came close to the smooth high frame rates that I did.

Personal preference but I want it to play new games in 12 months from now. I would just do the desktop again (the reason I sold the Dell) but we moved and now I have to sit at the kitchen countertop to use it.

Also I don't care much for scaling. 1:1 windowed is fine but not all games do that.

 

a 7900GS with 1920x1200 of course would not play all games smoothly at native resolution... unless if you bring down the quality settings.

an 8800M GTX is at least twice as fast and can handle all current games at very high resolutions.

 

1 1/2 years ago it was the second best card and it played games fine back then at the high res.

In a year with new games the 8800gtx will struggle at 1900x1200 while the 1440x900 will probally still give sufficent frame rates.

 

I fail to see the reason to buy a 1440x900 when you can set your resolution lower on a 1900x1200 with no negative impacts ( as far as I have seen ).

End result, the same 17" display, with the same resolution on both screens with the same pixel size. am I missing something here?

It sounds like a "I don't want 10 dollars, I only want 5 dollars" situation to me...???

 

settle for the middle ground, and get 1680x1050 in a 17" screen.

 

OR get the 1440x900 and buy a separate 24inch 1920x1200 LCD

 

How do you set it lower. I refuse to scale it, to me I it looks horrible. If the game won't do 1:1 windowed then you are stuck playing it at 1900x1200.

 

I don't understand. If I don't get the desired FPS in game. I set the in-game resolution to something lower.

And assuming I choose a resolution that is the same aspect ratio, widescreen, I don't see anything wrong with how the game looks.

 

It was fine with CRT's but with all my LCD's I think it looks distorted.

 

doesnt look distorted to me

...especially if you use a resolution that has the same aspect ratio.

 

It will be distorted , true. But only if you go lower than 1440x900 from 1920x1200.
Even so, setting 2 or 4x AA usually takes care of it.

 

But that kinda defeats what I am trying to achieve. Maximizing the games framerate and keep it smooth is one of the reasons I like the lower res, turning on the 4x AA starts to cut into it.

 

Haven`t you learned that you can`t have it all?
Tell you what, I have both a 17 inch HP with 1440x900 resolution and a Sager with a 1920x1200.
The HP has terribly big icons and I had to reduce the DPI to 90% to make everything decent.

1680x1050 sounds like the best resolution for you.You`ll even play crysis on high decently at that res.

 

Why does Eurocom offer the WXGA panel and no one else? You mean I am the only one who wants WXGA?

 

pretty much. It's a demand (or lack of) issue.

That res is good for a 15" screen, but not so much for a 17".

 

Has anyone on here bought from Eurocom?

 

I remember dexgo did with his d901c...where did he go anyway??

 

Hey i can read text on my WUXGA screen just up the DPI a little bit and presto text problem solved

 

I think Dexgo fried his laptop,got fired, and now he`s a begger for laptop parts

 

Well, I don't have alot of options. Buy one from Eurocom or maybe buy a Gateway since it's a 1440x900 screen.

 

Have you considered the 1680x1050 screen? On a 17 inch machine, it's pretty easy to read.

 

I have but I really want to game on the lowest native resolution I can get.

 

My friend told me something interesting that sounded reasonable.

He said a 17" high-end gaming notebook is not high end if it has a WXGA+ (1440x900) or under because those can be found on basic 17" notebooks... which would defeat the purpose of getting a high-end custom rig.

High-end to him seems to be high-resolution and high-powered components... which seems reasonable to me since a high-end GPU should easily run games at high-resolutions without negative affects.

I like the WSXGA+ suggestion, its high resolution while not having icons and fonts too small.... and any 8800M GTX card would game perfect on it natively.

 

i think you should get the 1680x1050. should be fine.

 

I hear what you are saying, I guess I am just stubborn. I still think a 17" laptop runs faster and smoother with a 1400x900.

 

Gateway sells one at best buy. Its a best buy only model. Its a 17in. in the res your looking for. I had it before I bought this rig and I really enjoyed it. The cpu is slow, but you can buy a replacement from newegg. It only has an 8800M GTS in it, but its still a powerful rig. I played Asassins Creed on it fully maxed out at that res and it ran at 30fps+ the entire game. Its got good battery, looks nice, 4GB of ram, 320GB HDD, LabelFlash DVD Burner, and more. Its 3DMark06 score was around 8500, and I hit 9200 overclocking (stock voltage).

Only downside? Its a gateway... you void your warranty by installing a different os. i.e. moving from the default home premium 64 to ultimate, or 32-bit... Pretty sucky support.

For $1350, its an amazing rig.

Heres a link to it:

P-6860FX: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8780198&type=product&id=1204332501169
T9300 Processor: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819111001

Technically, you could replace the 8800M GTS in it for a GTX model. But $$$ is the issue there.

 

Could you please explain?

I honestly have never heard such a thing as a speed issue with higher resolutions. I have the 5793 in 1680x1050 and it's general system speed is darn fast!

The only time I have heard a lower res helping with speed is in really GPU intensive games, Crysis being an example. I can play anything else with great FPS on this machine at native res, though.

 

Thanks Emike09

Sure,

If you get 35fps in Crysis running at 1680x1050 you would get more fps if you were running a lower resolution. You are pushing less pixels basically.

I understand the dot pitch is smaller on the WSXGA+ so it will look better, but I am more concerned about the performance so I don't mind.

 

I do run it on a lower res but I don't need it as my native one. I just turn the game resolution down a notch

I don't think there is any difference in doing that versus having a lower native resolution. Perhaps some one here can can confirm/deny that.

 

If you run a WSXGA+ less then it's native resolution it will not be as sharp since it cannot make its pixel size smaller. So it has to use more pixels to try and make one so it will not be as sharp. Here is the beauty of this though, if you don't notice it thats awesome, unfortunatley for me I do notice.

It's odd because I don't notice ghosting on some LCD's (or it doesn't bother me) but some do.

 

But guys, if you have a 1920x1200 it scales down to lower resolutions perfectly (unless you try to go under 1440x900). So if you want the higher performance, then you can scale down in some games.
And if you're not gaming, then you get a bigger screen with more room to work.

Everybody's a winner

 

Shame on you for trying to stop a perfectly good argument by trying to point out a perfectly good solution to both sides!

 

Well, like I said earlier I don't like the way LCD's scale, unless I do it 1:1. That's just my taste and I really don't want to argue, I just asked if anybody knew what laptops are out there in 17" with WXGA. Thanks though for all the replies and different opinions.

I picked up a Gateway 6860fx this morning for $1099 which pretty much took care of my concern. Ultimately I wanted a 8800gtx but for half the price this will work for now.

 

Everyone has different personal opinions (heck, I like matte screens ) so it's all good. Also, it sounds like you got a nice deal so congrats on the purchase!

Have fun!

 

Wow good deal on the notebook kreidel. I loved that system, even though the 5793 is much better... the price is unbeatable for what you got!!!!