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    17 inch mythologic with chiclet keyboard

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by PubFiction, Aug 1, 2012.

  1. PubFiction

    PubFiction Notebook Consultant

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    I am interested in the rollover abilities of the MSI steel series keyboard that I think is an option on the mythlogic 17 inch laptops.

    EDIT: So I am a little out of date and now realize many clevo sellers ship this keyboard, a test from a couple people with any branded clevo with the steel series will work

    Can some people with this laptop do some key rollover tests.

    Open notepad and do the following then post results here.

    Test 1:
    Hold CAPS LOCK, Left Shift and Right shift and type the following

    the quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog!@#$%^&*()

    If every single key stroke does not register then repeat only holding Left shift and right shift.

    And again with only Left shift.

    Test 2:
    Put 6 fingers on sdf lkj.
    Press all 6 keys together 5 times in a row quickly then press enter. Repeat this 10 times.

    Test 3:

    Hold shift and E, then press space several times allowing E to repeat. Do the same with S,D,F
     
  2. PubFiction

    PubFiction Notebook Consultant

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    bump still need this
     
  3. TrantaLocked

    TrantaLocked Notebook Deity

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    I have the stock keyboard. Ghosting will still occur with the steel series keyboard.

    Test 1: Holding all three, all keys register EXCEPT space bar and the fifth row of keys (starting with "z" and ending with "?"). The same happens if I only use the two shift button as well.

    Test 2: Lol this test makes me feel like a 5 year old is having me play Simon Says. Whatever the goal is, it seems to work for me.

    Test 3: While holding shift and E, space bar doesn't interrupt the repetition of E, while doing the same thing with S, D, and F, space bar interrupts the repetition and the letter does not continue to repeat when I let go of space.
     
  4. PubFiction

    PubFiction Notebook Consultant

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    Ya I have already tried the stock I need to get a sense for what the steel series can do to see if its an option. Otherwise the only keyboard in ALL the gaming laptops that will work is the samsung series 7 gamer.
     
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    mythlogic Company Representative

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    The stock keyboard and the steelseries option have the exact same drawbacks (As the KEYBOARD on a laptop doesn't do anything when it comes to nKey issues, thats the motherboard (keyboard controller)) Desktop keyboards have the keyboard controller built in so thats why they are different.
     
  6. PubFiction

    PubFiction Notebook Consultant

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    That is interesting, I would still like people to test it just to see. If it is the controller than one would have to assume the controller on the Clevo and MSI is exactly the same? And the traces on the membrane between the MSI, and Cleveo keyboards are exactly the same? So that would mean the MSI keyboard is not really a gaming keyboard so to speak but actually worse than almost any gaming keyboard?
    But either way it could prove even more intersting, maybe if it is just the controller MSI may work different than Clevo.
     
  7. crosslimit

    crosslimit Notebook Evangelist

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    Can anyone say if the chiclet keyboard also suffers from the poor keystroke recognition (e.g. my "dot" "comma" and "L" buttons dont register well)

    And if it doesnt can you purchase the keyboard seperatly? (e.g. reseller hasnt got it)
     
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    PubFiction Notebook Consultant

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    All of my keys register well. In the four games I play (GTA IV, Bad Company 2, Tribes Ascend, Skyrim) I have no key issues. I have only heard of one game where someone's preference key combination would not work. I think it was WoW.
     
  10. crosslimit

    crosslimit Notebook Evangelist

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    I dont mean key combinations, i mean that when you press certain single keys such as the "L" by me, it doesnt register unless you hit it hard enough and exactly in the middle
     
  11. amirfoox

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    I don't know why you're so worried, the heavy ghosting effect happens on this Sony Vaio Z (a good 60%-70% of the keys don't register when I hold the CAPS and two shifts), and I never had any issue with typing or playing on this thing, and I'm a relatively fast typist.

    If only a few keys are missed in that scenario on the Clevo then I don't think I have anything to worry about.
     
  12. PubFiction

    PubFiction Notebook Consultant

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    crosslimit , we are speaking of a different issue here. Your issue sounds more like a poor quality keyboard, you should probably have ti looked at / replaced.

    amirfoox, If the few keys that are missing are important it is a big deal. More or less through year of experience I have learned that listening to people who think it is not a big deal is a bad idea. Typically they dont realize they are having a problem, or they are playing games with way to simple keyboarding to notice. I mean the majority of gamers play realistic shooters where you just do not need to manage very many keys.

    Even at that failing a particular test does not mean the keyboard is bad as you say. But if you pass test 2 it means it is highly likely to be good. Plus it allows you to bin keyboards, so you can see patterns like if you search for that phrase you can fine other keyboards designed exactly the same.
     
  13. amirfoox

    amirfoox Notebook Evangelist

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    Sheesh, OK, you don't have to be a jerk about it :)

    Yup, I guess shooters with a lot of keys may suffer from that issue, but I don't play those, so at least for me the issue is irrelevant.
     
  14. SDyar

    SDyar Notebook Enthusiast

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    I am having a similar issue with my P170EM. The G H and N keys all have trouble registering unless I press them really hard. I already opened a ticket with my reseller, and they said that if it continues (I don't see why it wouldn't) they would RMA it. When they say that, do they mean the entire computer or just the keyboard itself? Is this a systemboard issue or just the actual keyboard? TIA
     
  15. crosslimit

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    exactly, as i understand it all of the standard clevos keyboards suffer from this, i could be wrong though, i want to know if the steelseries keyboard is better in quality :)