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    19" dual nvidia geforce 7800gtx

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by brankulo, Mar 6, 2006.

  1. brankulo

    brankulo Notebook Geek

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    And I thought I paid a lot for my Sager...
     
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    Albsterama Notebook Consultant NBR Reviewer

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    I think i said this before and i'll say it again...what a waste of 19" real estate, for that size, it should be WUXGA or better.

    and yeah, i thought i paid alot for my sager..*looks again*..oh its my warranty...lol

    Cheers...
     
  4. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

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    I agree - especially with two 7800GTX's, 1680x1050 is the minimum resolution you would see a benefit from SLI at.

    A 19" laptop . . I thought 17" was big. For the price of that Clevo, I'd get an SLI desktop and a nice 15.4" laptop, best of both worlds. :)

    Chaz
     
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    Elminst Some Network Guy

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    wow... that website is full of crap...
    I love how they have a "case study" of a guy using his "AXEN-X1" laptop at work and home... when it's not even available yet.
     
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    Albsterama Notebook Consultant NBR Reviewer

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    Well, its out folks: Sager 5950 check it out pctorque.com or sagernotebooks.com, $3.5K fully configured (no extended warranty, office) but you're stuck with the single core turion. its a tough choice, the sli is ridiculous power for games but i ain't putting my 9750 up for sale yet...i don't feel they have the right cpu power in it yet...imho.
     
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    Carmien Notebook Guru

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    A couple of days ago I ordered the new Sager 5950. I have spent several weeks researching the latest mobile solutions and I like to feel I am aware of the pros and cons. Once I get the system I plan on conducting and writing a fairly decent review. Before you read on bear in mind that I consider myself a gamer with cash to spend on the best. I want a mobile gaming solution with 4xAnti-Aliasing (AA) / x16 Anistropic-Filtering (AF) and all Shader Model (SM) 3.0 bells at native resolution and an average of 40+ FPS for good solid gameplay.

    My review is going to closely examine the claim that the 1680x1050 resolution (WSXGA+) is not enough. I have seen both formal reviews and forum posters lamenting that this new bad boy should have been released at 1920x1200 (WUXGA) resolution.

    Respectfully, I don't completely agree with the comments about resolution. But then, as a hardcore gamer who ordered a 5950 I probably have a bias.

    IMHO hardcore mobile gaming means a playable, native resolution experience with ALL the sliders set to max. From the reviews and benchmarks I have seen to date a single 7800 GTX cannot manage 4xAA at a playable framerate at 1680x1050 resolution . However, all the benchmarks I have seen with SLi 7800 GTX's at 4xAA can cruise with at least a 35-45 fps average in 16x12 resolution. I interpret this as meaning I can get max DirectX 9.0c experience on a WSXGA+ notebook whereas it was not possible before. It is worth bearing in mind that the Go version of the 7800 GTX is supposedly clocked 30 MHz slower than the desktop counterpart. However, I do intend on stock and OC aspects of my review.

    The reviews I have seen seem to focus on the resolution as the main failing aspect of this notebook (weight is acceptable because people can understand the trade off). However, I also believe that a SLi 7800 GTX Go solution would suffer with max settings at 1920x1200 resolution.

    IMHO I suspect the 5950 at 1920x1200 resolution is a valid mobile gaming option if you dont care for 4xAA.

    Personally, I DO care about 4xAA. And I appreciate the difference between no AA, 2xAA and 4xAA. Jaggies are smoothed out and the high intensity, smooth framerate of a hardcore game at playable speeds is why I pay the big bucks.

    Also, it is worth bearing in mind that there is always a danger of chasing a technology curve. I am not posting to justify my position. But I do need a mobile gaming solution now, not in 3-6 months from now. Most games dont use dual CPUs, but this notebook does have some future proofing in the 64 bit mobile processing. And if the rumours are true that Samsung made the display panel, then we are talking about an LCD panel with 10ms response time, 300 nits and 72 color gamut. That my friends could well be the best laptop display on the planet right now.

    The one benchmark on this system I have been able to find can be found at http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/20...notebook/4.html
    It is far from being an exhaustive review, but it does comfirm the SLi gaming prowess does shine. However, it is worth noting the Need for Speed benchmark. At 1280x1024 with 4xAA and 8xAF the Go SLi solution is averaging 44 fps. I cannot accept that 1920x1200 is going to be anything close to a truly playable 4xAA experience on this notebook.

    Combined, I believe that AMD 64 bit mobile achitecture, NVidia's Go SLi genius, and a fine resolution will mean that those 19 inches of widescreen display will have no troubles at meeting the highest demands of SM 3.0 graphics at playable framertes. At the same time the benchmarks are clear in that the same demands won't leave this solution wasting GPU cycles either.

    I personally think that the native resolution on this bad boy is at a gaming sweet spot. But that is just an opinion. I plan on doing a serious review and analyzing the system when it is in my hot little grubby hands in early April.
     
  8. Charles P. Jefferies

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    Nice to have another hardcore gamer around here. :) You posted some great information.

    There is definitely a difference when you use anti-ailasing. Normally with my X700 256, I am limited to lower resolutions and no AA (AF is fine), but lately I've been testing a machine with a Go7800GTX - AA does wonders indeed.

    Supposedly, the 19" 5950 has the brightest screen of any laptop - 290 nits is unheard of. Viewable in direct sunlight.

    We'd be really interested on your thoughts when you get it. :)

    Chaz