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    1920x1200 matte screen in clevo laptops?

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Eggs Scrambled, Aug 20, 2010.

  1. Eggs Scrambled

    Eggs Scrambled Notebook Evangelist

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    The np8662 (m860etu) has me quite interested because of the possibility of a 1920x1200 matte screen. I can't even find any other remotely appealing laptops that have matte screens anymore (I love my thinkpad, but lenovo needs to start offering better graphics cards at lower prices!).

    So I got to thinking, although I'm perusing the market for a solid deal on a np8662 that seem to be few and far between, the 1920x1200 matte screen is for sale at various places, and there is the clevo w860cu and b5100m that re both 15" and look very similar to the m860etu.

    My question is, what is the possibility that I could get a 1920x1200 matter np8662 screen and stick it in a w860cu or b5100m? I can't see why this is a laughably stupid question to ask, it seems relatively possible since it's the same company and the same form factor. Would the problem be the aspect ratio? That since the newer ones are 16:9 and 1920x1200 is 16:10 theres no way it would work?

    Is there anyone that can actually test this to see if it'd work? Does anyone know of any other appealing laptops with 1680x1050 or higher matte screens I can consider?
     
  2. kaltmond

    kaltmond Clepple

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    M86 uses CCFL screen and W86 uses LED. And 1200 is physically wider than 1080.
     
  3. theriko

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    In simple terms: no.
     
  4. Eggs Scrambled

    Eggs Scrambled Notebook Evangelist

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    Thanks for the replies. Just for the sake of argument, what about the np5125 and the w860cu? If I got a np5125 for example and wanted the w860cu 3d screen, would they be compatible since they are both 15.6", both LED and 16:9?
     
  5. Aikimox

    Aikimox Weihenstephaner!

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    If you wish to have both powerful GPU and a good anti glare screen - look into W701, M6500 or 8740w. I personally, vote for the later. Look the review in my sig.
    You can get this model for ~2.5k with the right discount. ;)
     
  6. Eggs Scrambled

    Eggs Scrambled Notebook Evangelist

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    akimox....wow that screen is amazing. I've never seen a notebook that looked quite so stunning, especially in just pictures. Why oh why HP can't bring that quality down to their consumer laptops and become the de facto winner in every way will continue to boggle my mind.

    That will probably be my great white buffalo for a while, even after getting a quality clevo that I was hoping would be my last.
     
  7. VZX

    VZX Notebook Evangelist

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    If matte screen is what you sought before the screen resolution, wouldn't an anti-glare matte screen protector should do the job?
    Something like this should help you, no?

    And AFAIK, from XoticPC review of Sager NP5125, the FHD screen option didn't reflect that much light for being a glossy screen.
     
  8. MrDJ

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    the only clevo i know that does a 1920x1200 screen is HERE
     
  9. Blacky

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    I dying breed unfortunately... I wished resellers would take our case to Clevo. I understand 16:9 for low and mid -performance notebooks, but it's no good for high-end and business notebooks.
     
  10. MrDJ

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    the screens and also backlit keyboards have been passed onto clevo by various resellers. now the waiting game.
     
  11. Aikimox

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    I tried many anti glare screen shields/films/filters. No go.
    They are grainy, dim and reduce viewing angles.
    After wasting about 500$ on experiments, my conclusion -
    there's nothing like the true polarizers used in business grade notebooks.
    Personally, I find the 8740w AG shield to be perfect:
    Sharp image, good brightness, the rest comes with the IPS bundle of qualities ;)
     
  12. Eggs Scrambled

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    aikimox, how low can you expect the price of an 8740w to go reasonably? Like what's the bottom line lowest price for a used one that appears to be even remotely possible for that amazing screen? Is the 8730w with the dreamcolor 1 anywhere near as good as the dreamcolor 2?
     
  13. Aikimox

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    I'd not recommend 8730w. Instead, you could get the basic config: i7-720QM, M7820 (aka 5870), Dream Color, everything else stock - ~ 2-2.2k
     
  14. niffcreature

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    Thats such a different laptop! Why would you tell a man he has to get a 17" business laptop when he started by talking about a 15.4" sager??
    BESIDES LCDs are LCDs! You can essentially find a really nice screen for ANY laptop! 2.2k? are you freaking kidding me?

    Im sorry its just VERY disturbing to me how some would be so controlled by the manufacturer.

    LVDS is a standardized interface. Honestly. You want my m860etu? I'll find a 15.4" IPS display and replace the backlight with high output RGB LEDs for all I care as long as you dont buy from an entirely different manufacturer just because of the screen.

    at some point we all are going to have to decide whether or not we want control over things like this. and its a big deal because the display of a laptop is literally the biggest interface we have with it. you can all tell me to shut up if you want but I think this should be moved into the HP forum guys....
     
  15. Eggs Scrambled

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    thats a good idea, niffcreature but lemme know more about the whole idea that the screens are standardized or whatever. What would be my screen options for a 15.6" m860tu/etu? It couldn't be any 15.6" screen could it? Do you have first hand knowledge that as long as the screen is 15.6" it fits in any other 15.6" chassis? Does it matter that the m860etu is ccfl, could I get LED?
     
  16. Blacky

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    As far as I know, we can only put CCFL screens in our M570TU or M860TU notebooks. The best that I know are the LG LP171WU3 for my model, there is a similar model for the M860TU (15inch) but I don't know the name. Unfortunately these LG screens are not being produces anymore so it is very hard to get one. If you manage to get your hands on one, please let me know, I am also interested.
     
  17. Aikimox

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    Look at your own sig and stop the "control" talks. :)
    Also, you forget one little thing that makes HP and Dell so attractive - warranty. For 3 year next business day international support you pay only 40$ (to HP) ;)
    So if something happens to your system it can get replaced/fixed in 1 day. So stop jumping to conclusions.
    I'm not trashing your Clevo but I easily could :p
    Now, 2k for a business grade laptop is a decent price.
    The DC2 screen by itself is not available anywhere except through HP. It's about 450$ on eBay and those resellers can't even confirm the model number yet.
    I wish you good luck finding a similar quality IPS screen for your laptop. Surely, you can find an anti glare screen panel, but that's another league in terms of quality.

    I stay by my advice. Bought my HP as an experiment since I needed a gaming system with a matte screen.
    So far, no regrets: light, thin, silent, sturdy and powerful with very good cooling and probably the best anti glare screen.
    Am I kidding you? Here you go! Similarly configured Sager W860CU costs ~2k (not including the shipping).
    Anyway, I'm not here to convince anyone, just provided my opinion to someone asking the questions I was asking not long ago.

    >>>> Also, I allowed myself to talk about business notebooks just because the creator of this thread mentioned Lenovo TPs and 1200P res ;)
     
  18. pkhetan

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    Blacky, do you know the last number "3" in LP171WU3 stand for what ?
    about the M860TU screen model it's LP154WU1/2/3 but i don't know what is different between 1/2/3
     
  19. Eggs Scrambled

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    Don't question yourself aikimox, I appreciated the comment about the HP with the DC2 screen, I really like the benefits of a DC2 but at that price it's little more than a pipe dream ATM for when I can consider spending $2k on a laptop.
     
  20. Aikimox

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    What's your budget?
     
  21. Blacky

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    I have no idea, but I am pretty sure zfactor knows and if you happen to find out, please let me know.

    All I know is that 3 is slightly better than 1, at least that's what zfactor told me. If I ought to take a guess I would say that probably a higher number means a newer model.
     
  22. Eggs Scrambled

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    It's kinda fluctuating especially since I'm going to go through the process of selling 3 or 4 of the 5 laptops I have, but I'm not really looking to spend more than $1200 if I can help it. It's too bad it doesn't look like the dreamcolor 2 will come at a laptop anywhere near that though, if the minimum it seems is like $2000.
     
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    Thank you Blacky, appreciate your reply.
     
  24. Eggs Scrambled

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    I would be extremely interested in as much info as possible for what the best screen is available for an m860tu/etu, and where to get it and/or get a deal. Thanks so much in advance for anyone's effort on that note.
     
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    Well you have the LG LP154WU1 it's a matte 1920x1200. If you are serious, i can request the price from Clevo Co; I have requested prices and initiated orders for several items last days for people here in this forum and all of them retract at the end and i don't want to re do this again with Clevo Co because they will not take me serious any more, so please if you are not serious tell me.
     
  26. Eggs Scrambled

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    I am quite serious, but don't have the m860etu yet to decide if I definitely want to upgrade to the 1920x1200 matte. If it's a possibility, I'd be interested in knowing what the price was but not making the actual order until I'm ready. I can tell you one thing, as soon as I actually have an m860etu I'll be looking almost immediately to get the wuxga, so the price would be very helpful for me to decide. Thanks for your time and effort either way.
     
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    The electronic parts price could be changed weakly, in that case when you have your m860tu, then i request the quotation. :)
     
  28. Blacky

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    Oh can you request then a price quotation for the LG171WU3 and for a new battery for the M570TU ?
     
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    There are people who are willing to decode the interface of any LG LED display. they in fact will make chips with DVI inputs.

    How about the 15.4" WSXGA+ matte LED display that the newest macbooks have?
    There are so many screens out there, I have a 15.4" LG LED WSXGA+ glossy that I havent gotten modded yet because im short on funds... There are more newer 16:10 ones then you would think, and I'd bet theres an RGB led one to compete with HPs "dreamcolor"

    as for the control of the manufacturer i realize thats not a particularly relevant argument... but its just a nice display of a specific model number which there are more like.

    even if theyre 1200 NIT industrial grade ;)
     
  30. Blacky

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    I would happily add a LED screen in my laptop, but until now no one has done it and my skills on this matter are rather limited.

    If you manage to make a working converter that will allow us to use LED screens ... that would be amazing.

    EDIT: I agree manufacturers are not that important, but some models are better than others (this also depends in preferences). I am currently using an AUO screen and I've also tested an LG LP171WU3 (which unfortunately had a white spot and I had to return it). The LG was better because it had more natural colours and was significantly better lit then the AUO. On the other hand the AUO has a noticeable better contrast and produces much vivid colours.
     
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    Yeah .............and I thought HP would fix the defective Nvidia card that was in my DV9035, that Nvidia gave them $Money$ to fix.................why I will never buy HP anything ever again ..........................BTW, love my matte screen !
     
  32. Aikimox

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    ^^ Yeah...I'd never buy a consumer grade laptop (especially a Pavilion). I'd give Clevo a shot... when they offer good quality matte screens again...Dreams.