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    2+ questions with np8662

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by DaBunBun, Jul 24, 2009.

  1. DaBunBun

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    Sexy comp, mine just arrived.

    2 silly questions though, how do i update my bios? And second, whats a good external fan for it?

    Some more questions, how do i turn off bluetooth? I can make it not autodetect stuff, anyway to just turn it off?

    And what are some standard running temps? I checked a few of the other threads are all lower then mine, which is currently cpu @ 65 and hdd @ 65.

    edit: this is on xp
     
    DaBunBun, Jul 24, 2009
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    Lol that's a hot HD I guess your room temperature is high, verify if Intel Matrix Storage Manager is installed and up to date. For the bios I'm not really sure if that is usefull since your laptop is new it should have the last one but anyway link here. FN + F12 to turn off bluetooth. And I Don't use/know any notebook cooler
     
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    The intel matrix storage manager says that the system does not meet the minimum system requirements.

    I shoulda specified, its on xp.
     
    DaBunBun, Jul 24, 2009
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    HDD is very hot.

    did you make sure to install the latest Intel Matrix drivers?

    and disable the Vista services that constantly access your HDD?
     
    Gophn, Jul 24, 2009
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    Whoa, call the fire department. 65*C is a ball breaker for the hard drive.

    Install the latest chipset drivers, followed by the Matrix drivers.

    What hard drive do you have anyway?
     
    Soviet Sunrise, Jul 24, 2009
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    I got the 500 gig one, 7200 rpm.

    Straight off the site,
    "500GB 7200rpm SATA 300 Hard Drive "
     
    DaBunBun, Jul 24, 2009
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    Sounds like the Seagate 7200.4 to me.

    Have you tried installing the software above and giving it another spin?
     
    Soviet Sunrise, Jul 24, 2009
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    the XP storage drivers should have worked... did you make sure to download the right version?
     
    Gophn, Jul 24, 2009
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    If it goes to 65 or over 65C, load or not, you need to contact your seller to fix this issue.
     
    sabricaze, Jul 24, 2009
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    Try installing through safe mode.
     
    Soviet Sunrise, Jul 24, 2009
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    Its the same as the one that i tried and it says my comp doesn't meet system specs.

    Guess ill try in safe mode.
     
    DaBunBun, Jul 24, 2009
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    which version of XP did you install?

    and what did you set the BIOS to when installing XP?
     
    Gophn, Jul 24, 2009
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    The laptop came with xp configured, i just needed to put in my user info.

    XP Professional, ss what it says in the My Computer properties.
     
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    disable System Restore

    disable Drive Indexing on the C Drive

    disable any Anti-Virus/Security Suites that you might have installed.
     
    Gophn, Jul 24, 2009
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    I think my comp isn't in raid mode or ahci mode.

    Is there a way without a reformat to set it so?

    Under the raid controller it says: (Something it seems randomly generated) IDE Controller

    Under the IDE ATA/ATAPI Controller it says:
    Intel(R) ICH9M/M-E 2 port serial Ata storage controller 1 -2928
    Intel(R) ICH9M/M-E 2 port serial Ata storage controller 1 -292D
    Primary IDE Channel
    Primary IDE Channel
    Secondary IDE Channel
    Secondary IDE Channel
     
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  18. Gophn

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    there might not be a need to.

    XP should make the HDD really cool... as long as you do what I just posted previously.
     
    Gophn, Jul 24, 2009
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    No Drive Indexing, no restore point, with an antivirus/firewall, and its at 56.
     
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    thats much better.

    any spyware utilities running as well?

    what anti-virus suite were you using?
     
    Gophn, Jul 24, 2009
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    Well when im not doing anything, it'll be around there, but as someone said, if it ever reachers 65, I should worry.

    I found this, and am wondering if its ok to do.
    http://forums.pcper.com/showthread.php?t=444831

    I'm running comodo free version
     
    DaBunBun, Jul 24, 2009
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    Comodo is great for the Firewall ONLY.

    do not install anything else... I know, I have tested it thoroughly.

    the Comodo Defense+ and Anti Virus needs some serious improvements and maturing before I can recommend them.

    the Comodo suite together creates some serious performance issues that are needless.

    so instead I recommend the following freeware:
    - Firewall: Comodo Firewall-ONLY (no Defense+ either when installing it)
    - Anti Virus (choose only 1): Avast! 4 Home Free Edition / AVG Free Edition / Avira AntiVir Personal Edition

    as for spyware removal, I recommend the following freeware:
    - Spybot: Search and Destroy (manually used, manually updated, run once a month and you are good)
    - Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware (manually used, manually updated, run once a month and you are good)

    Thats my combo that works and is free and keeps the system fast.
     
    Gophn, Jul 25, 2009
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    DaBunBun, Jul 25, 2009
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    under 60C is good.... so I would not worry when its in that area.

    as for updating the Intel Matrix drivers... you might want to shoot an email to your vendor about that issue... since they were the ones that configured it with XP when you got it.
     
    Gophn, Jul 25, 2009
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    Wouldn't there be significant damage after a HDD reached 65 degrees, regardless of how long it was at that temperature?
     
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    no significant damage yet.

    one can test this by doing an HDD diagnostic or test... HDtune can check for errors as well as benchmarking it.
     
    Gophn, Jul 25, 2009
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    Guess ill try it after i fix up
     
    DaBunBun, Jul 25, 2009
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    So how should i go about installing raid/ahci without a floppy? LIke with a usb flash drive
     
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    the easiest way is to just slipstream the AHCI driver into the XP CD that you were given.

    use nLite
     
    Gophn, Jul 25, 2009
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    You can set the comp to run in ACHI through the BIOS.
     
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    like Kevin said.... just switch to AHCI mode.

    then see if you can install the Intel Matrix drivers then.
     
    Gophn, Jul 25, 2009
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    I tired to do that, i actually set my comp into bsod mode. For some reason, its not allowing me to. I might have installed the wrong driver i guess, but its not showing up under the advanced options.
     
    DaBunBun, Jul 25, 2009
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    when you switch the BIOS to AHCI... go to safe mode.
     
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    You need to go in device manager
    > right click on Intel(R) ICH9M/M-E 2 port serial Ata storage controller 1 -2928
    > Select update then manually point the update to the .inf update utility from intel site
    > then it will ask for restart while it reboot put the bios in ahci and your good to go

    Lowered my hard-drive by about 4C
     
    Sp3ctrum, Jul 25, 2009
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    I did, both ways, with nlite and with just the straight install, and its not working. So after i install it, i go to the bios screen. I go to the advanced tab, and no where does it say for me to set it to ahci/raid. On the advanced tab i have:

    Installed OS [XP]
    Legacy USB Support [Enabled]
    Boot time diagnostic screen [Disabled]
    Legasy OS Boot [Disabled]
    Reset config data [no]
    Power on Beep [Disabled]
    Battery Low alarm [enabled]
    Fan Control [automatic]
     
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  36. Sp3ctrum

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    In the bios you have to set the operating system to vista and under it an option for ahci will be there but if IMSM is not installed it will do a nice BSOD
     
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    It works!! Thanks a ton for everyoens help. Sorry for my bios incompetency.
     
    DaBunBun, Jul 25, 2009
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    Lol your not the first one. I'm too lazy to do it but there really should be a sticky explaining how to install IMSM before and after installation of xp/vista/win7
     
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    2 more question, playing games should not increase the hdd temp correct? Assuming that the drive has properly been defraged so hopefully theres little thrashing.

    And is there a way to control the fan? I remember I had a sony with adjustable fan speeds.

    HDD hasn't reached 60 again (or yet), although its peaked at 55.
     
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    the HDD should not be accessed too much during gaming... usually just during load times.
     
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    I just read how the 7200 rpm hard drives operate at higher then the standard 55C. I figure this is the case, or i fudged something up.
     
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    Your post confuses me.

    7200rpm is "reported" to run in lower temperature than the 5400rpm.
     
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    Hmm weird, whats your average hdd temp.

    And i guess it must have been an old post.
     
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  44. sabricaze

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    I run at ~45C idle and 55C max with the cooler and ~50C and 60C max without the cooler.
     
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    Oh, thats around the same for me i guess. I hit 60 tops now, guess ill need to get a cooler. Do you recommend any?
     
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    This WD 500GB 5400RPM runs around 42C without a cooler. In fact it's on a chopping board which probably isn't the best of ideas.
     
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    I really would like a recomendation though for a laptop cooler specific for the np8662. From what i've read, the antec is a nono, since it sucks out air. How are those non usb cooler? They don't seem too reliable, but some people seem to swear by them.
     
    DaBunBun, Jul 27, 2009
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    I run 48 idle and 56 max without a cooler.

    The Seagate 250GB 7200.4 is really overlooked as a great HDD.
     
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    Zalman NC2000? I'm just basing this off this thread: http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=304671

    No first-hand experience, my M860ETU is still on the way :)
     
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  50. sabricaze

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    I personally use Zalman NC2000. Reduces my temperature well. Around 10C-15C for CPU and GPU, and 3-5C for the HDD.

    There are other ones that are proven to be good as well. Link in Anthony's post should help you with that.
     
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