3dmarks score of m860tu with 9800m gts

Oh alright, I'll try the PCMW paste first and we'll go from there. Thanks for the info.

 

Dont Forget to clean off all the old paste crud <3

GLuck!

Make sure to unplug the laptop and take out the battery.
Then press the Power button and hold for a few seconds to drain power.
If possible make sure your grounded! Or at least try to keep a piece of your skin touching the metal of the outside case to try to prevent static damgage

 

Hi again Kevin.
I downloaded 3DMark06 (from FileHippo) and ran it, just to give you a result.
With the cooler, the temperature reached 78C, without it reached 84C.

Hope that helps.

 

Thanks shadows! So I think it's normal for the card to reach 80+ temps.

 

Kevin,
As requested, I ran without cooler on flat table.
Starting temp: 34C (again)
Finishing temp: 62C <== this is only 3C higher than with cooler. surprising to me

Yes, my 9800M GTS is slightly OC'd
core: 600
mem: 872
shader: 1625

Reading the above posts, it seems that the results are quite variable.

 

wow you really have a cool system there aistin. have you done anything special with the cooling system of your lappy? How about for the HDD, what temps are you looking at?

 

I have done nothing special with regard to the lappy cooling system. I have a Seagate momentus HDD. It consistently runs between 47 - 52C. I don't play any FPS. I just mostly play WOW which is no stress at all to this laptop.

One other fact, I am using XP Pro as my primary OS.

 

Ah. Have you tried stress testing your HDD? I have mine idle at 52C right now but when I do defragging, there was a time it reached 66C which is way high above the upper limit of operating temperature of the Westerd Digital which is only 60C.

 

3dmark doesnt stress the gpu enough

play a game and find a spot that really stresses the card (also run max settings).

stick to a 15-20fps spot for an hour or two and check temps.

 

Oh no, 3dmark doesn't stress well yet my GPU max temp reaches a 100C, what more if the VC is really stressed, what temps can it potentially reach

 

Why clevo doesn´t make 2 Heatpipes on GPU die......

 

It sounds like there's little or no thermal paste one your GPU. You should open her up and check it out, but call whoever you bought it from first.

 

here are some pics of my lappy's heat sink and GPU removed:











Do you think I need to re-apply thermal paste?

Is the application procedure the same for any kind of thermal paste? I saw a procedure from this artic silver website: http://www.arcticsilver.com/arctic_silver_instructions.html but I'm not sure if this is the necessary procedure in applying the proprietary thermal paste that PCMW sent me.

 

Wow yeah you definitely need to reapply the paste. A small pea-sized dot, then spread it gently is the method most suggest, or you can just allow the heatsink to do it for you.

 

Ah, do you recommend it also for the CPU? What temps would you recommend for the CPU and the GPU?

 

Make sure that you clean your heat sink to remove all debris before applying new paste. Get the surface as smooth as possible using rubbing alcohol solution commonly available.
BTW, are those scratches in the copper metal of the heat sink?

 

^^ Definitely this. Get a thermal compound remover (or alcohol if you want) and clean it very well (but gently). Those pictures look all dry, cracked and not enough (although don't overdo the compound either). Your GPU temps explains all your heat issues in this case, imo.

kevin: Make sure you're running your hard drive controllers on proper SATA (Vista/AHCI mode in BIOS, not "XP" mode) if you're not running Vista (are you running Vista?). Improper sata drivers (or old ones, update the Intel chipset drivers too) causes higher temps in this laptop as well.

Yeah, they are, especially from distributor to distributor and especially depending on your setup, drivers and room temp. My cooler lowers temps by 8-10C usually, in comparison (high 40s with, mid to high 50s without). Emulated (XP) mode, coolerless while running a format on my hard drive got me to mid -70s- (upon which I stopped the format). I average 46-48C now with a Zalman NC2000 (on low), even after gaming. After a defrag and during gaming I reach 53/54C, so the cooler is <3.

Oh yeah, I also am running Black Viper's XP "safe" config for my windows services (I did bare bones but I crashed a few times ): http://www.blackviper.com/WinXP/servicecfg.htm So that means quite a few things turned off (most notably indexing and restore). I tend to follow the "if I don't need it, yank it out" method of "stuff installed on my PC."

 

I'm pretty sure that I'm running the latest drivers of AHCI. I'm running Vista. And I already optimized the system to run only specific background processes.

Do my heatsink really looked cracked and scratchy? I've been using this lappy for just about three weeks now and that is the condition of the heatsink the first time I remove it. Isn't suppose to really have little scratches on it?

 

I just got the thermal paste from PCMW and right away applied the compound using the procedure in this link: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/274/5 but I'm not sure if I did it correctly because I was hesitant about the amount of paste to put, I think I put too little because the temps of my CPU became somewhat unstable compared to its stable state before re-applying the compound.

Do I need to spread the thermal paste after applying a half-grain of rice size on the CPU and GPU die? Or should I let the heat sink take care of the job?

Regarding the amount, do I need to apply an amount that will seemingly cover the whole die with ample thickness?

 

Do I also need to apply thermal paste in the heat sink itself?

 

Try this link from Arctic Silver:

http://www.arcticsilver.com/pdf/appinstruct/as5/ins_as5_intel_dual_wcap.pdf

 

Ok, I tried to applied more and meet my new temps after running 3dmark06 test



I'm happy with the results although I only get 8800 3dmark max, is that normal? I see some with the same specs as mine reaching 9200 3dmark scores.

 

That is a LOT better.
You should be able to OC it a little now for a small performance increase
Boost your Core Clock by 10Mhz at a time and remember the shader clock should be set to 2.5 times the core clock for optimal stablity.
Test by running 3dMark06 and Crysis for each increase.
If you have Crysis that is a good program to run to test the highest temperature your GPU will get with that clock. I would say stop when either it stops being stable I.E crashes or your GPU temp hits 90 degress in crysis. At that point I'd say decrease your core clock by 10 Mhz and your shader accordingly. Don't bother increasing the memory clock as it will give minimal returns. Although change it to 800mhz if its set at 799mhz

 

Yah I think so. What OC softwares do I need to do that? What is the safe temp range for doing OC?

 

I use nTune.

80 is super safe 86 is what I currently get in crysis OC and im happy with the fps. I'd shoot for a temp of 86 max but anything above 90 is dangerous.

My Clocks are 570/800/1425 for my 9800GT atm but I might try clocking a little higher as I want to break the 10k wall in 3dMark06 and Im at 9948 atm

 

Ah. Regarding nTune, is it as simple as install and changing clock speeds in the software? I remembered before when I installed that program and tried to run it I got a BSOD.

 

Have you tried 850 on the memory clock yet?