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    4.0 GHz Core i7 on D900F (Sager 9280) .. OC FTW!

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Gophn, Jul 10, 2009.

  1. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    what do you mean. you think the i7 was cooler or the clevo cooling isn't that great?
     
  2. Quadzilla

    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    Nope they are hot CPUs for sure :).
     
  3. electrosoft

    electrosoft Perpetualist Matrixist

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    It is a testament to the Clevo cooling system they can get this hot beast functional under load in a laptop.
     
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    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    Electrosoft run OCCT for me please :)
     
  5. Quadzilla

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    Im sure they knew well and good(clevo) the CPU could be seeing 90+ degrees on some bad days and thats why it has a totally insane cooling system and no way in heck would it have been able to handle SLI period.

    I was rather shocked you bought one though Electro, All you do is play WOW it seems and i figured you needed all the GPU power you could muster, not that a single 280 is a slouch either because its not :).

    Then again i am not certain how WOW handles SLI either.
     
  6. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    specially since WoW loves Duals :D

    IF it passes a full OCCT run of 20 mins heck even 15 mins i'll be happy and proclaim the laptop in my Sig
     
  7. duane16

    duane16 Notebook Consultant

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    What is 'OCCT' that you all keep talking about?

    Duane
     
  8. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    Soviet Sunrise Notebook Prophet

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    OCCT is an all in one CPU and GPU stress test and error checking utility made by the Russians.
     
  10. electrosoft

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    I remember my M6400 (WotlK) running WoW rather well, and seeing as this is the M6400 on steroids..... ;)

    WoW has been optimized to handle multi core CPUs but it still isn't super for SLI rigs. Having SLI isn't detrimental anymore, but the performance gains don't merit the SLI config IMHO.

    With that being said, I've been playing WoW the last few days and temps are great but moreso, performance is excellent in WotlK with excellent frame rates everywhere (min 30 in Dalaran) with all details to max, shadows to zero @ 1920x1200 and I'm trying to figure out why and/or is the i7 really helping that much. I cleared KT/Saph (heroic) in WoW and play was very smooth so I'm perplexed atm. I'll have to do Wintergrasp for the final test.

    I attached a HWMonitor screenie after playing WoW for 4hrs, flying through all the regions of Northrend farming (my Hunter is a herbalist/miner) and doing KT/Saph 25 (Yet again, no Envoy of Mortality)
     

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    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    clpdj Notebook Consultant

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  13. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    OCCT says CPU it too hot when it reaches around 75-80C.

    so the test stops at that point.
     
  14. ReDuNZL

    ReDuNZL Notebook Evangelist

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    I'm getting my D900F assembled tomorrow, Gophn - have you seen anything (serious) so far that might make me reconsider my order? ;-)
     
  15. clpdj

    clpdj Notebook Consultant

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    On the option of the softwere you have to define the maximum temprature you want to go on the test... for example.. the tjmax from my cpu is 105ºC so i define 100ºc and all go's great ;) bguards m8....

    byw nice machine congrats, bguards
     
  16. electrosoft

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    Same. It quits before it gets anywhere near the thermal capacity and before the fans even have a chance to kick up really.

    I did a Prime95 8 thread run, max heat and left it to run for 2hrs while I took my daily run/swim. Came back and it was just purrin along. Max temp = 86. This is my bread and butter burn in, quite honestly. If it can handle a Prime 95 max heat burn in, it is good to go.

    I ordered some AC MX-2 I'll apply when it comes in.

    It does make me wonder how much the extra fan they opted to omit would help on the CPU heatsink and/or some extra heatsink copper.
     
  17. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    no major issues with the system at all... its extremely fast.

    the temps of the CPU are just warmer than I like... but the Core i7 is a very hot CPU in the first place.

    the notebook's cooling system will keep it down 85C and under at full load.

    I am testing thermal compounds now.
     
  18. clpdj

    clpdj Notebook Consultant

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    did you try what i said ?.... what thermal comp. are you testing? please test

    "artic mx3" vs "Innovatin Cooling Diamond 7 Carat" vs "Innovatin Cooling Diamond 24 Carat" vs OCz thermal comp.

    bguards and best of luck for you m8
     
  19. leonyeo1001

    leonyeo1001 Notebook Evangelist

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    Heyyy fellow WoW-er!!~

    I've been MIA in this scene for quite awhile actually (cos my WoW just expired today and I happened to pop by here that's why I'm here =D) so please pardon me.

    The temps you've provided while running wow.. Are they with the fans maxxed out (do they still have this awesome Fn+1 feature to max out the fans as they have in the 9262?) or are the fans running on auto. Also, could you briefly describe the surrounding temps? Like if there's any air-conditioning turned on or a fan blasting in your face (like what I always do when I play WoW)? That would help in accessing the temps more accurately :) Oh and is there any chance that this thing shows the slightest bit of lag when in AV and there are about 50 players on your screen? :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

    Thanks :)
     
  20. VeEuzUKY

    VeEuzUKY Notebook Consultant

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    Can U share with us specifically what software UR using?... ClockGen, CystalCPU, etc...

    Also, is it possible to run XP Professional on the D900F? I only seem to see drivers for Vista (that would be ttttragic news) :eek:
     
  21. The_Moo™

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    why would you cripple it with 64 bit XP>?
     
  22. VeEuzUKY

    VeEuzUKY Notebook Consultant

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    I will run XP 32bit. For what I do is by far the fastest plus I have both a laptop and a desktop with perfectly configured and customized XP 32bit installs + all my software so I can just clone them into to D900F with Acronis TrueImage Workstation and then simply install the necessary drivers without having to re-install the whole OS and configure it like I have which would take me weeks. I will use XP till there is positively no way to make it work anymore, hoepfully many years down the road. Its lean, clean, fast, stable and solid.

    As for XP64bit, its actually a fabulous option. Much better the Vista (any flavor) albeit some difficulties in finding drivers sometimes.
     
  23. The_Moo™

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    you should run windows 7 then ;)

    Win 7> Vista > XP
     
  24. VeEuzUKY

    VeEuzUKY Notebook Consultant

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    Ive tried windows 7. It is positively no more than Vista with minor improvements. Its bloated and slower than XP for every single application Ive benchmarked and that I use (mainly AV Editing). There is positively nothing in Windows 7 that makes it any faster or more stable than XP. Nothing. I run my XP machines for weeks without a reboot and have it slimmed down to 5 active services and less than 600Megs on the Windows directory. This is really what I want. Just a plattform for the software I need, no extra 6 gigs worth of stuff that is positively useless. The only thing I use in other render workstations that is better than XP 32bit, is 2003 Server 2003 R2 (both 32 and 64bit versions).

    But this is just my opinion and Microsoft needs definitely to make some money and to convince everyone Windows 7 is anything else but Vista with a new Service Pack, toolbar and icons plus a little more than the same stuff :) Of course, Im surely wrong in these assumptions :)
     
  25. The_Moo™

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    no Win 7 is vista no doubt just redesigned :)

    they are based on the same kernels
     
  26. leonyeo1001

    leonyeo1001 Notebook Evangelist

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    Yep I totally agree with the word CONVINCE. I used to love XP tonnes but hey, you don't get to see your windows minimizing with cool resource-consuming effects do you :p

    This thing is already BLASTING its way through vista. If you do get XP running for this thing, please please please impress us with the speeds XP is capable of :D :D :D
     
  27. VeEuzUKY

    VeEuzUKY Notebook Consultant

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    Yes, precisely :)
     
  28. electrosoft

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    Ambient temp in the room is ~75-77f (Living room, so it stays fairly warm)
    No fans to the face ;)
    No laptop cooler. I just use it on a standard lapdesk
    Fans are on auto control

    I haven't done Alterac Valley in eons, but I'll poke my head in there and take a look if you like. I haven't done Wintergrasp yet either, but I am pretty sure it will be laggy, since it even bogs down my desktop with real 280's in SLI.
     
  29. ReDuNZL

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    Whoa ... my vendor now gives me a choice between glare and non-glare screen ... choices, choices... thoughts, anyone?
     
  30. VeEuzUKY

    VeEuzUKY Notebook Consultant

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    Really? That is great news! Who is your vendor if I may ask? Id love to get a non-glossy screen if there is such option. PM me if its better. Thanks!
     
  31. ReDuNZL

    ReDuNZL Notebook Evangelist

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    Multicom.no , in Norway.
    That option appeared today, the first item in the config list.
    They pulled out the D900C as well, they have been selling it up till now.
    http://www.multicom.no/SystemConfigurator.aspx?q=st:10570428;c:100560;fl:0
     
  32. VeEuzUKY

    VeEuzUKY Notebook Consultant

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    AHH :) Norway sounds very nice but kind of far for me, plus the Euro conversion will be a killer :)
     
  33. ReDuNZL

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    That's good to hear. I'm getting the 920 i7, and I won't be attempting to overclock it. It's the HD temps I am most worried about - I will be running 3 x 320Gb 7200rpm's in RAID 0.
     
  34. ichime

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    Yeah I thought the i7s wouldn't be that much hotter than a Core 2 Quad. For instance, my HTPC has a QX9650 @ 3.8 ghz and my max load temps is around 60 degrees C when playing GTA IV or wpriming it.
     
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    Those with 920's on stock coolers and overclocking are probably hitting 80C...and that's in a desktop. Crappy cooler, but still.
     
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    Wow.. That's pretty cool ambient temp, at least for where I am.. I'll have to say the cooling system IS performing pretty up to standard in that case :D

    Yeah perhaps try AV when you've got the time to do so? With max effects and all and tell me how it does :) Thanks lots electrosoft!! :cool:
     
  37. 4st3risk

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    So i7 in laptop IS overclockable...... Great news!! :)
     
  38. Gophn

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    not stable enough yet... since I really would like voltage control as well.

    until Clevo releases that option in the BIOS or a software truly supports undervolting control for the Core i7... then I would not say this is great for OC'ing CPUs.
     
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    try the gelid extreme thermal compound
     
  40. Gophn

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    I have tried:
    - Arctic Silver 5
    - Arctic Cooling MX-2
    - OCZ Freeze

    all do not do much for the CPU temp.... only 2C degree difference at best (during full CPU load tests).

    I about about to do a bit of modding to improve the temps.

    But the best way would be to have a undervolt software to do it... or undervolt with a BIOS option.
     
  41. electrosoft

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    The large, unused top where the 4th fan was supposed to go is screaming for a modification.....
     
  42. Gophn

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    you got the idea. ;)
     
  43. ikjadoon

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    You haven't tried disabling HT, have you? Is that an option in the BIOS? That helps with desktop OCs, but not sure how much that would do for you.

    ~Ibrahim~
     
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    not an option in the BIOS.

    The BIOS is extremely limited in any options really.
     
  45. ikjadoon

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    Bollocks....update us with the fan mod, if you do it. :)

    ~Ibrahim~
     
  46. 4st3risk

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    Is there any form of petition that all D900F owners can sign to get Clevo to release OC-enabled BIOS?
     
  47. ronaldheld

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    Sounds like a good plan.
     
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    yes, the best petition is not to buy their products. U will have OC in no time when their sales go down by 50% :D lolz.
     
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    How is the battery life compared with the D901C?
    Also, are the guidelines for preserving the battery from the Clevo Guide still valid?
    You you remove the battery from the laptop it will expose the 3-rd hard drive...
     
  50. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    you do not have to remove the battery... just make sure to give the battery a full charge cycle one every day or week if you are lazy.

    (this is scenario is the easiest... granted that you do not leave the system on 24/7.. which is what I do not recommend, shut it down when you are not using it)

    then you can leave it plugged in all day when using it.

    And the battery life for the D900F with the Core i7 975 is about 1 hr 20 min to 40 min if you lower the brightness and disable other features.
     
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