Clevo (or their sellers, like Sager) will be willing to have a TurboMode option in the BIOS if you voice your need of it to them directly.
so contact your vendor and ask for it... the more people that ask for it, the more pressure for them to release it.
my BIOS was beta... so it might have unlocked something... I'm not sure, but it worked for me.
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TurboBoost SHOULD HAVE BEEN INCLUDED FROM THE MOMENT THE LAPTOP STARTED BEING SHIPPED, not something we all need to be begguing for after buying THE MOST EXPENSIVE LAPTOP ON THE MARKET. As for Overclocking, Clevo doesnt like it and we all know it so so I doubt any asking will be productive. Personally, I think Clevo is way more interested in selling enw machines than providing proper support to the current ones. Money talks and BS walks. -
just make a new thread and call it a petition for Clevo to give TurboBoost to the D900F.
then they (as well as other OEMs like Sager, Eurocom, Pro-Star) will see it and people supporting the idea. -
Good idea!
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Mutant_Tractor Notebook Evangelist
If the thread hasnt already been started ill start one, i didnt pay this much money not to be able to use my extreme processor i paid extra for, On that note Gophn, i used the Eleet utility on mine and im only able to get to 3864MHz as soon as i put the Core#4 to x30 multi then i BSOD, can you pm me your BIOS to see if this changed with the BIOS?
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It was never stated that the Extreme Processor would be overclockable. Looking back at the previous models (D901C, D900T,K) the desktop extreme processor, none of them had the multiplier unlocked.
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Its called like style note or something?
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I think RAID5 can cause loss of performance in some cases, so its a good idea to go with RAID0 - just ensure you backup your files often. Installing a system can take a long time (in my case, takes two full time weeks), so having backups is VITAL.
As for your success with overclocking, I am very impressed! It would be fantastic if you could give us a guide "for utter morons" on how to use the eleet tool for this purpose. That's assuming my own failures aren't BIOS related, of course
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Changed it to RAID0 last night, now fully running Win7 x64,
Watch out for a big thread on all benches imaginable
I could add instructions if you so wish?
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From what I've been able to test so far:
- for the stock e/leet tool to work, you need to be running the special BIOS (that Mutant_Tractor has gracefully sent me); any other BIOS renders the stock e/leet tool absolutely useless
- setting the turbo boost sliders forward seems to effect only the turbo boost pins and nothing else; meaning if turbo boost normally would take your multipler up 2 pins, with this you can force it to go up 4 pins, for example
- the moment your CPU is under heavy load, it appears to exit turbo boost mode and thus ends any kind of overclocking; this is normal per turbo boost design
- for any real overclocking with this that will survive benchmark tests etc., we probably need the modified e/leet tool - because the moment you start stressing the CPU it tends to exit the turbo boost mode
So once again I'd like to call out to Gophn or whomever else might have a copy of the modded e/leet toolTo share their modded version.
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Mutant_Tractor Notebook Evangelist
Exactly the experience iv had, same problem running 3DMark03 thru to 3DMarkVantage iv had a problem that when changing tests i leave the e-leet tool open, and i can see it downclocks to 3333MHz again?
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Based on what Gophn was saying a mod was made, but its nowhere to be found due to the modder being unwilling to share the fruits of his labor with third parties outside of Gophn.
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Gophn could point us in the right direction as to what needs a changin' perhaps?
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I haven't had much luck pinging him, maybe he'd enjoy getting some attention from some other people as well
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I've tried just about every single software application out there to tweak the i7 on the D900F and they don't install or work. Intel's Overclock Desktop Manager, Gygabyte EasyTune, EVGA ELEET, etc... they basically all do not even install or crash when started. I'm amazed at how some people here managed to get some of these working. Is it possible to post which software was used and its exact to see if some of us can replicate the achievements?
On another note, has anyone tried the CPU-Tweaker App from these guys?
http://www.tweakers.fr/cputweaker.html
http://www.majorgeeks.com/CPU-Tweaker__d6079.html
I'm not sure what can be tweaked that's worth it... there is a clock multiplier setting and it works great but it maxes out at x 26 so (at least in my case 3.33MHz) you can only downclock the CPU actually not make it go up unfortunately...
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The E-Leet works okay for me, it doesnt "hard" overclock the CPU, it just changes the TurboBoost values that are brought into effect when needed, It should install though, your running Win7?
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Is E-Leet backwards compatible with XP?
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Yes, e-leet works with XP. However, it's amazing that it works at all with a non-evga bios/mobo.
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Mutant_Tractor Notebook Evangelist
Free marketing
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Any refresh (new hardware or chassis design) on the horizon for the D900F?
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Mutant, what BIOS you running to OC with eleet? Any links?
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Mutant_Tractor Notebook Evangelist
Im running .05 atm,
I was running e-leet with .04 havent tried with .05 though...
I posted these link, they are folders and youll find the BIOs's in em
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Thanks, that's a good link. Thanks for putting it together. So e-leet does work with a regular bios.
Does the turbo mode work in these bios?
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No probs dude,
Turbo mode does work but i dont see much noticeable difference, all e-leet allows is for you to change the bounds of the Turbo mode not the clocks that the CPU runs at as standard,
Clevo refuse to allow OCing in the D900F so until then there will be no chance...
Unless you can re-code the e-leet utility by way of the CPU-Z SDK to allow "proper" overclocking, which Gophns friend managed to do but he wont distribute that for obvious reasons... -
Hello
I do not know if you already know or not yet. With the "ASRock OC Tuner" you can also change the D900F the CPU voltage.
To install invites you down the archive and unpack it. Then installs the "OCTuner_v2298.exe" in the default directory. Than run the "D900F_Fix_32bit.exe" if you have a 32bit Windows or the "D900F_Fix_64bit.exe" if you have a 64bit Windows. Now you can start the "ASRock OC Tuner".
Attention:
The program has some display errors! The values that appear in the "Hardware Monitor" almost all wrong. The best way their last "CPU-Z" run around the values examined. If you where a valuable sets should also be pretty sure so prin.
If you have any question pleas ask me.
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That has to be THE BEST 1st post ever!
Cheers dude! OVERVOLTING FTW!
Oh somebody stop me >.<
Can someone by anychance mod the e-leet via the CPU-Z SDK to allow proper overclocking of the multi like gophn had? -
We're all still waiting...
In the meanwhile on my spare time these past weeks I've entertained myself preparing for proper overclocking on the 900F (hum, hum... let me laugh...) and made a couple modds worth noting. First I installed a 4th fan where Clevo decided not to put one. I found a supplier with all types and sizes of old laptop fans and bought 20 with a size and shape I think could fit, all for 5 bucks. China has its advantages... not very many though...
3 of the fans did the job nicely and I ended up installing a better one that looks stock and works magic. I get an average of around 2 degrees lower temps on load with it which I think its pretty good (no change in temps on idle, but that's OK)
Next, I removed the whole CPU heatsink assembly, cleaned the old thermal paste (looked very dry to me actually... not good but I don't know what brand and type Sager used when they shipped my unit) and installed the much touted Shin-Etsu X-23 paste. Did not work for me. Useless. Temps got higher than with the one before. The thing about thermal compound reviews is that one can read 10 reviews and they are all get different results benchmarked against similar competitive products. For me at least, the Shin-Etsu was a not go despite awe-inspiring reviews Ive read on how amazing it is against all competition. Next...
Back to the drawing board, I did some more research, ordered and installed Indigo Xtreme's compound. Its not an easy process and different from what we are all used to. This is a a vrey different type of technology... its not really thermal grease actually as we know it. Once installed and cured, to my amazement I got an extra 3 degrees lower load temps on average. This is by far the best product of its kind I've user seen between any CPU and the heatsink and Im thrilled
So, I now have an exceptionally cool running 900F awaiting Clevo to give up the fight with us (or the "we dont care" instead actually) and hopefully release some sort of an overlookable BIOS. Why dont some Asus laptop engineers go work for Clevo? That would be so grrrrrrreat!
I still (and happier than ever) running WindowsXP 32 bit that yet again I have recently and extensively benchmarked against all flavors of Win7 and that continuously comes up on top. Im not the only one reaching these same conclusions among the reviewers that actually know what they are doinf and writing about and that should also be clear to everyone who actually tests their systems properly:
http://www.testfreaks.com/blog/information/windows-xp-vs-vista-vs-7
But this is all besides the point as XP is out the door and forcefully being burried to everyone's content and happiness. When there is no more support for it, Ill just stop using Windows because 7 is no more than Vista Plus and its in a word, unbearable. Windows 8 no doublt will only be even worse.
I look forward to being able to properly overclock this laptop that I trully love, and that (lets hope) supporting upcoming 6 Core CPUs will be faster than ever, while using XP 32bit as much as I can and also as needed, XP 64bit for any applications that require vast memory utilization... I say this because to me, 64 bit is a nothing-really-gained proposition in the real world, no matter said or written otherwise today. -
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You should have used AS5 dude, i got about 3-4*C lower across the board,
I think for my next laptop ill be going Asus for just that reason dude,
Ill be installing the 980-X now with XP-32bit stripped out (just for running benchies)
On my desktop i have been running this same version of nlite'd XP and at startup it uses 60MB RAM!
As opposed to Vista x63, XP x86 scores .2s lower in WPrime32M (3.58s in Vista @ 4.7GHz as opposed to 3.39s in XP @4.7GHz)
But as i said VeEuzUKY i will be running Gulftown in her right now -
I think AS5 was what the laptop shipped from Sager with when I ordered it. AS5 is great but its a product that has not evolved at all in the past few years. Both Indigo Xtreme's compound and also Coollaboratory Liquid Pro are mocu more effective, albeit exponentially also more expensive.
As for running anything on the 900F, its either 32bit XP or 64bit if what you want is performance. Once installed, tweak all services and do a total clean-up using a guide like this, and you'll get a lean OS that flies through applications and mouse-clicks in ways Vista or 7 cant even dream of, now or ever:
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Mutant_Tractor Notebook Evangelist
See that coolaboratory liquid pro i wouldnt touch the stuff!
It can eat away the letters on your CPU when removing it!
I did the ultimate tweak
My copy of XP x86 runs with 60MB RAM usage at boot
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980-X in the D900F time... wish me luck!
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Good luck!
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Snip........
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Good luck. How much for a 980X ??
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you havent enabled pms?
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He can't yet, he doesn't have enough posts
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Mutant_Tractor Notebook Evangelist
Ahhh okay,
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your sig says you are running the i7-920 @ 3.6Ghz ... how did you do that? did you only use the asrock tool?
again in german
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nochmal in deutsch ;-)
Danke für den super Tip! Ich konnte das Asrock-Tool mit deiner .ini-Datei installieren und starten.
In deiner Signatur steht, dein i7-920 läuft bei 3,6GHz ... wie hast du das gemacht? Nur mit dem Asrock-Tool? -
Englisch:
I used the "ASRock OC Tuner," only to change the voltage. To overclock the CPU to 3.6 GHz I have used the "EVGA E-LEET Tuning Utility".
Deutsch:
Ich habe den "ASRock OC Tuner" nur zum ändern der Spannung verwendet. Um die CPU auf 3,6GHz zu Übertackten habe ich das "EVGA E-LEET Tuning Utility" verwendet. -
Mutant_Tractor Notebook Evangelist
But E-Leet doesnt change freqs only turbo mode multiplier?
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Can someone provide link to download EVGA E-LEET Tuning Utility? Cant do it directly from their website anymore... Thanks
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Mutant_Tractor Notebook Evangelist
You just have to register dude
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4.0 GHz Core i7 on D900F (Sager 9280) .. OC FTW!
Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Gophn, Jul 10, 2009.