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    400W Power Supply for Clevo D901C

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by GanGstaOne, Feb 2, 2009.

  1. GanGstaOne

    GanGstaOne Notebook Evangelist

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    I just get very good Power Supply for my laptop 400W Real Power and can be set from 15v-28volts
    Original Clevo PS is Level 3 this is Level 5

    here some pictures:
     

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    How confident are you that the new PSU you've got is going to work well with the D901C and not blow things out by overloading the circuitry?
     
  3. GanGstaOne

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    because i try it and it work perfect this power supply is military model
    i even make some stress test and the two fans keep the ps very cold
    it can be regulated from 15volts to 28 volts
     
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    Where'd you get the PSU from?
     
  5. GanGstaOne

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    from one military lab they dont sell them i get one because i know one guy that work there
     
  6. GanGstaOne

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    i just play Medal Of Honor with this PSU for 1 hour with Clock 670-1700-950 and everything is good :)
     
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    Ahh, that explains the lack of general info....
     
  8. tavara

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    GanGstaOne, здравей радвам се да видя още един българин във форума :)
     
  9. Shyster1

    Shyster1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Българите са поемане

    (blame google if it's unintelligible! :D)
     
  10. GanGstaOne

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    oo ya but here you have to wrote in english
     
  11. alienmadness

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    Add one more from Kent UK

    ZDR. :D
     
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    yep, how much and let me get my order in.. :)

    also gangstaone: is there any way you can attach a kilowatt meter to it and gage how high the watts go.
    i have found that our original adapter will max out at 259 watts.
    also, does it have any auto voltage regulation or just set to like 20 volts and that's it?

    thanks
     
  13. GanGstaOne

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    yes you can regulate the voltage from 12 to 28 not from 15 to 28 like i wrote first and the Real power is more than 400W in stress test and games with both cards on 650-1600-950 with only one fans working (the PSU have two)
    its stay cold no heat at all
     
  14. GanGstaOne

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    i get one because i have friend in one military lab that make PC Tech for our police and Military they get this Power Supplys from England military i think
    and you cant buy one
     
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    the power drawn from the socket will always be more than the PSU is outputting to your laptop as there is a loss in AC-DC conversion of generally ~20%. Therefore if you have an output of 220W, the input will be around 275W. My 120W PSU draws a max of 170W, which is a bit less than 80% efficiency (or a bit more than 120W output)
     
  16. GanGstaOne

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    yes i know but this is not ordinary Power Supply and when i say more than 400W i mean this is Real power that can be used
     
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    so it's rms'd at 400 watts then?
     
  18. GanGstaOne

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    what......?
     
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    i say that we test it and push it to 460W and can go higher but we didnt have time to play then and i didnt want to know how higher can go because this is enough for me
     
  21. GanGstaOne

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    You ask me if i'm able to get more Power Supply's right?
     
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    yes, i would like to get one or two of them if at all possible.
     
  23. GanGstaOne

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    Sorry i cant get any more
     
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    ah, well it was worth a shot. :) thanks though
     
  25. Bill F

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    I did a search on the model number and there are some for sale on the internet.
     
  26. Johnksss

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    yeah, i found it as well. 217 euro or what ever currency is in the UK.
    they have them here in california as well.

    LPS250 Series WebSheet
    LPS250

    * Total Max Power: 250 W
    * Total Max Current: 50 A
    * Input Voltage: 85 V to 264 V
    * Output Voltage: 3 V to 48 V
    * Outputs: Single
    * Size (L x W x H): 9.000" x 5.000" x 2.000"
    * Warranty: 2 years
    * Operating Temperature: 0 to +70 C
    * Download Datasheet

    Special features

    * DC power good
    * Cover -C
    * Optional end fan cover -CEF
    * Overload protection
    * 120 kHz switching frequency
    * Thermal overload protection
    * Overvoltage protection
    * 2 Supervisory outputs 5 V and 12 V
    * Low output ripple
    * Built-in EMI filter
    * Single wire current sharing
    * Power fail
    * Optional top with fan cover -CF
    * IEC EN6100-3-2 compliance
    * Remote sense & remote inhibit
    * Active power factor correction

    Electrical specs

    Input

    * Power factor: 0.99 typical
    * Safety ground leakage current: <0.5 mA @ 50/60 Hz, 264 VAC input
    * EMI filter: FCC Class B conducted and radiated CISPR 22 Class
    * Frequency: 47-440 Hz
    * Efficiency: 75% typical at full load
    * Input range: 85-264 VAC; 120-300 VDC
    * Inrush current: 20 A max., cold start @ 25°C

    Output

    * Overvoltage protection: 5 V output: 5.7 to 6.7 VDC. Other models 10% to 25
    * Overload protection: Short circuit protection on all outputs. Case over
    * Hold-up time: 20 ms @ 250 W load, 115 VAC nominal line at factor
    * Supervisory output: 5 V @ 100 mA regulated; 12V @ 500 mA
    * Adjustment range: 2:1 wide ratio
    * Maximum power: With cover: 250 W with 30 CFM forced air. (-C) (-C

    Logic Control

    * Power failure: TTL logic signal goes high 50-150 msec after 5 V o
    * DC OK: TTL logic goes high 50-150 msec after the output.
    * Remote on/off: Requires an external contact (N.O or N.C) to inhib
    * Remote sense: Compensates for 0.5 V lead drop min. Will operate

    LPS250 models
    Output(s) Model No Stock Check Evaluation
    6 V @ 50 A LPS252-C Check Request
    6 V @ 50 A LPS252-CEF Check Request
    6 V @ 50 A LPS252-CF Check Request
    12 V @ 21 A LPS253-C Check Request
    12 V @ 21 A LPS253-CEF Check Request
    12 V @ 21 A LPS253-CF Check Request
    24 V @ 16.7 A LPS254-C Check Request
    24 V @ 16.7 A LPS254-CEF Check Request
    24 V @ 16.7 A LPS254-CF Check Request
    48 V @ 10.4 A LPS255-C Check Request
    48 V @ 10.4 A LPS255-CEF Check Request
    48 V @ 10.4 A LPS255-CF Check Request

    http://www.powerconversion.com/products/websheet/184/LPS250
     
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    :O That'd be the pound!
     
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    thanks!....
     
  29. GanGstaOne

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    oo ya there is like mine LPS254 CEF
     
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    Where did the 400W rating come from?

    And that's Max, not RMS.
     
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    we test the psu and we get little more and 400w
     
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    that's on the LPS250 - His is the LPS254(isnt that what he said?) - However, simple formula for you guys to consider..

    P = I x E(v) - or Power(watts) = Current(amps) x Voltage
    So, using his stats.. he's @ Max output of 48V and 10.4 Amps. Odd though, cause before he said it would max @ 28 Volts. Anyhow..

    Watts = 10.4 x 48 = roughly 500.. That's max. RMA would likely be 70-80% of that, so 350-400 RMA. Not wasting my time to do EXACT math. Not worth it. Sooo.. 350-400RMA @ 48V - Well.. if he's saying his maxes out @ 28V, then that's a little less than half of the full 48V rating which in the end doesn't really matter because I just realized that they all run @ 10.5 amps.. so 28 x 10.5 = 300 MAX or 250RMA roughly.. sorry for any confusion there, I overlooked that. Regardless, IF it ran @ 48V then yes..it would be around 350-400 RMA, but since he stated TWICE it runs @28V max, then his RMA is right around 250. Sorry bud, but you got duped if someone told you otherwise. :)
     
  33. GanGstaOne

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    thats why i wanted to test the psu before i buy it and i have test it twice once there in the lab and once today in one shop for electronic max rma is 430-450w 26A on 20volts
     
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    RMA? Return Authorisation Agreement?

    Or RMS, Root Mean Squared? ;)

    And I was going by the datasheet stats:

    Code:
    Model    :    Output    :   Minimum :   Maximum Load   : Peak  : Regulation2 Ripple
    Number   :    Voltage   :   Load    :30 CFM Forced Air : Load1 :            : P/P  (PARD)3
    LPS254-C : 15V  (12-24V):   0.50A   :      16.7A       :  20A  :     ±2%    : 150 mV
    
    So in short the LMS254 does not go to 48 volts (although the LMS255 does) and is rated at 250W, hence the name LMS25x.


    DOH! Just reread your message and see you actually agree with me. Hopefully the OP will pick up the points...
     
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    Sorry for posting again but how are you measuring your power rating? Amperes consumed by the power supply? In which case take into account it's only 75% efficient, at best, and your number again drop down to a little over 300W.
     
  36. GanGstaOne

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    i have real power on this 26A our original is 11A
    if 11A is 220W
     
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    ok, you guys are loosing me now...lol
    if you go by the formula you also have to remember....
    it's 24Vx16.7A=400.8. right? minus said 20 to 30 percent or so...?
    now if the laptop runs off of 20 volts flat. then it would be...
    20v*11a (our power adapter)=220. they say is max, but i can push it to 259 watts.
    im using a cyperpower battery backup 900 watts with KW meter to measure.



    this is all interesting to me.... :)
     
  38. GanGstaOne

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    i have also download info guide for LPS250 series and there says that LPS254 CEF is 12-24v but mine is 12-28v
     
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    when you tested it gangstaone..did you use "your" laptop at the place where you got it.?
     
  40. GanGstaOne

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    no they have a machine to test power supplys i just try if works well on the laptop
     
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    then that's why. makes perfect sense now.

    this is why i asked you about the auto sensing stuff earlier in the thread.
    even though the new adapter is rated at "28" your laptop is not going to use "28" volts it will use far less. more like 22 or so volts. which could kick the amps up to 16.8. giving you a total of 369.6 watts or a little above 300 to 310 watts real power. but non the less it's far better than our original one. so im sold on the idea. :)

    this is all based off of the formula. now the specs they shoot out suggest 250 watts max...interesting to say the least....
     
  42. GanGstaOne

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    john i didnt test it on 28 volts i test it on 20volts both times
     
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    Nevermind that post.. Theres a possiblity this thing pushes near 400.. but, I need to do more math :p
     
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    miss read...

    LPS250 models
    Output(s) Model No Stock Check Evaluation
    6 V @ 50 A LPS252-C Check Request
    6 V @ 50 A LPS252-CEF Check Request
    6 V @ 50 A LPS252-CF Check Request
    12 V @ 21 A LPS253-C Check Request
    12 V @ 21 A LPS253-CEF Check Request
    12 V @ 21 A LPS253-CF Check Request
    24 V @ 16.7 A LPS254-C Check Request
    24 V @ 16.7 A LPS254-CEF Check Request
    24 V @ 16.7 A LPS254-CF Check Request
    48 V @ 10.4 A LPS255-C Check Request
    48 V @ 10.4 A LPS255-CEF Check Request
    48 V @ 10.4 A LPS255-CF Check Request
     
  45. GanGstaOne

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    E-wrecked i didnt buy this from odrinary shop i get it from military lab thats why they maybe not the same i dont know
     
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    It's all good.. If it's the BOLD one john highlighted..then it would all make sense. Quite impressive :) I'm glad it works well for ya. POWER! *grints* ;)
     
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    :) well i pay alot it has to work good