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    485m overclocking results?

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by hizzaah, Feb 17, 2011.

  1. hizzaah

    hizzaah Notebook Virtuoso

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    Here's an updated list of the scores/clocks/etc posted thus far. any info provided was included, driver version will be posted next to the clocks if available. it seems most of us aren't going to want to pay to unlock all the features of these benchmarks. it would be preferred if you could run the test using the trial version/settings :) thanks

    Single GPU Scores


    aduy(723/1770/1446)
    3Dmark 11: 4060 (304.79)
    3Dmark 11: 3930 (301.42)
    3Dmark 11: 3977 (304.48)
    --using 1.03V Bios--

    hizzaah (270.61 drivers)
    3Dmark 11: 3639 (730.5/1720/1461)
    3Dmrk 06: 20472 (270.51 drivers)

    Mwmorph (700/1800/1400) (265.xx [stock])
    3Dmark 11: 3569
    i7 2720qm

    Jaybee83 (650/1650/1300)
    3Dmark 06: 20096
    3Dmark 11: 3298
    PCmark Vantage: 15194
    3Dmark Vantage: 16951
    For more of his scores, see here
    i7 2720qm, 16gb 1333mhz ram, 500gb 7200rpm

    Windkull
    3Dmark 11: P2529
    PCmark Vantage: 11780



    SLI GPU Scores


    oO Edison Oo (707/1760/1413)
    3Dmark Vantage: 28353
    Actual results page
    i7 950, 12gb triple channel ram, 120gb x-25 ssd + 500gb secondary

    harmattan (710/1660/1420)
    3Dmark Vantage: 30096
    i7 950

    DGDXGDG (730/1600/1460)
    3Dmark 11: 6605
    3Dmark Vantage: 30382
    i7 980x ee, 12gb hyperx 1600mhz ram, x-25e 64gb + 500gb
    --using 1.03v Bios--

    Chrack2 (735/1600/1470)
    3Dmark 06: 22351
    3Dmark 11: 6983
    3Dmark Vantage: 30392
    post with screen shots
    i7 950@ 3.5ghz
    --using 1.03v Bios--

    Torment78 (750/1700/1500)
    3Dmark Vantage: 33016
    i7-980x @3.9ghz, 12gb 1600MHz Hyper X RAM, 160GB Intel X25M II SSD
    --using 1.03v Bios--

    Overclocking Programs:​

    MSI Afterburner 2.2.1 (direct download link)
    nVidia Inspector 1.9.6.6


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    485m 1.03V BIOS (direct download link)
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    *clocks will be in mhz and Core/Memory/Shader format unless noted otherwise

    **the info posted is what i have been given to work with lol. sorry it's not very complete/thorough

    ***if you note that something is incorrect, or you dont want your info/links displayed for whatever reason, please PM me and i'll get it fixed up!


    **** I, nor any other user who has posted info, is responsible for you screwing something up! we've posted our individual results, and as you can see, they all vary. do your research, don't be dumb about it, and all should go well :)
     
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  2. oO edison Oo

    oO edison Oo Notebook Consultant

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    • Card: nVidia 485m
    • SLi: Yes
    • Benchmark: 3dMarkVantage
    • Setting: Performance
    • GPU Score: 25289.98
    • GPU Clock: 707
    • Memory Clock: 1760
    • Shader Clock: 1413
     
  3. hizzaah

    hizzaah Notebook Virtuoso

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    so how's sli scaling? is it exactly double a single?
     
  4. oO edison Oo

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    haven't benched with one card, but from all my reading, it's never a double increase in GPU power. a WILD guess would be 60-70% better? others may have better ranges. I'll test with one card and post the results.
     
  5. TearTaker

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    If i remember a review correctly, it was close to double. Though, like edison said, it's never a double increase. I'm interested in seeing how a 6970 oc's. I know one or two people here have gotten them in their X7200.
     
  6. hizzaah

    hizzaah Notebook Virtuoso

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    What's the stock score of a 485?
     
  7. HTWingNut

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    ATI/AMD cards are better at card scaling and are closer to a 100% increase, whereas nVidia is usually 70-80%
     
  8. James832001

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    I learn something new whenever I visit these forums.

    Who's got the more stable drivers? ATI/AMD cards or nVidia? I'm curious.
     
  9. crazycanuk

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    I find the same in windows unless its Optimus ..... which IMO is HORRID for drivers and support.

    for Linux ... AMD all the way Nvidia seems to have abandoned alot of their Linux and other OS support.
     
  10. hizzaah

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    Pretty sure nvidia has better drivers.. IMO I suppose
     
  11. cleverpseudonym

    cleverpseudonym PG RATED

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    NO. they are both bad. Nvidia seems to update their driver fail every couple of weeks, and Ati updates their failures once a month usually. they both are not great, However IMO, Ati drivers usually give better increases if there is one to be had.
     
  12. ichime

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    Both cards scale pretty well. Before, SLi (NVidia) scaled better than CrossfireX (ATi) but lately, both provide similar (and pretty good) levels of multi-card/GPU scaling.

    As far as drivers go, my experience leans me towards ATi/AMD, but both companies have their driver issues...
     
  13. mobiousblack

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    In my experience I have had more trouble with ATI drivers in comparison to Nvidia's. I have 2 Desktops at my house. One with 3 GTX 285's in Tri SLI and one with an AMD 5970. I can't beginning to tell you how many times I have had issues with AMD's drivers with the 5970, weird glitches in game, crashes. A driver rolback would fix those issues and then I would just wait out unless the next stable release. I am not saying I have had issues with EVERY driver update from AMD, its just I have had more issues related to AMD's drivers than I had with Nvidia and theirs..
     
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    There are people in Guru3D that are having some problems with crossfire. Where the other card is always @ 100% load. The latest version didn't fix it for them. That's in the desktop market though.
     
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    I dont know about amd drivers, but with the ones i have now, i often get the driver kernel or smtn has stopped responding.
    I need to shutdown pc, wait 5 minutes and turn it on again.
     
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    In my short time with my 485ms SLI, I've pushed them to 710/1660 (with load temps around 65c). This OC scores 30096 in Vantage with an i7 950 @ 3.25ghz. I've yet to hit the limit on these yet, but am assuming from other results I'm pretty close.
     
  17. hizzaah

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    any other results?

    especially from single cards?
     
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    What software do you use to overclock?
     
  19. hizzaah

    hizzaah Notebook Virtuoso

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    Bump.. I know more people are gettin their rigs, hopefully we'll get more info :)
     
  20. mostwanted115

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    this thread is Hijacked bigtime

    drivers? crossfire/sli scaling?

    anyone actually overclocked a single 485M? please share your experience here.

    thanks.
     
  21. hizzaah

    hizzaah Notebook Virtuoso

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    posted in the 8150's owners lounge. Thanks for the results Windkull
     
  22. dodgehemi0

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    Hey man i got that message to so i called sager tech support and they said the gpu needed replacing. I have an x7200 with gtx 485.
     
  23. mwmorph

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    I have the following specs
    i7 2720qm
    Single 485m
    Sager NP8170/Clevo P170HM chasis
    Verde 265.xx stock drivers

    I can score 3569 on 3dmark11 at 700/1400/1800 stale but games dont run stable at that frequency. Battlefield Bad Company 2 will crash at even 679/1358/1700 after a while (15/30 min) Crysis/Warhead/Crysis 2 crashes at even 679/1358/1725 after 5-10 mniutes at 679/1358/1725. I use 665/1370/1700 now which are frankly fairly disappointing results.

    The thing is these games don't artifact all all, they just go to a yellow checkerboard pattern on top of the rendered image followed by a system freeze and a need for power button hard reboot. There's no GPU recovery or anything so it is quite frustrating and I'm leaning towards power delivery issues than the chip hitting its limits. I just installed Beta 270.28 drivers and I'll see if the situation improves.

    As a side note, I'm not very happy with the overclocking software on Nvidia's side. The last card I overclocked was a ATI HD4870 back in late 2008 with ATI Tray tools and that went much more smoothly than now when I use MSI Afterburner. I just set it to auto overclock and then backed off 15mhz on the core and 25mhz on the memory from max detected frequencies. Is there's a similar program for Nvidia cards? I really haven't used Nvidia overclocking tools since the coolbits and nTune days so I'm no longer an exert on this sort of thing.

    That on top of Nvidia not supporting these GTX485m in official driver updates 2 months after release rather put me in a not very positive attitude about Nvidia software. I do rather miss monthly driver updates that actually support my top of the line graphics card.
     
  24. hizzaah

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    Please do post back if your results change after updating drivers.. You monitoring temps during gaming?
     
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    mwmorph Newbie

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    I have the afterburner overlay on all the time monitoring frequencies, temps and FPS. Temps rarely exceed 71-73*C in a room with ambient about 23-25*C. The cooling system in this laptop seems quite good. I've seen some low 80s but only under furmark.

    I just tried running 3Dmark11 again. At 700/1400/1800, it crashes on test 2, the underwater submarine one. Fortunately the gpu does recover so it wasn't a hard lock. At 700/1400/1750, it crashed on test 4 or so, the CPU physics test doesn't render at all and stays on a black screen. Maybe it's because I have 2 HDDs and 8 gigs of ram, but my theory is that the 185w power brick is struggling to push enough power through for a 45w cpu, 100w gpu and still running everything else for just a power budget of 40w.

    I think I'll roll back to WHQL certified 267.76 drivers.
     
  26. uracoin

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    so the gtx 485 does not overclock that well in the p150? have you tried to overvolt anything?
     
  27. hizzaah

    hizzaah Notebook Virtuoso

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    If this is true, I probably won't be gettin to much out of an over clock either lol.
     
  28. Eivind

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    It doesnt OC that well in terms of 3dmark06 score from 19xxx to 20xxx. But going from stock to 680/1360 core/shader, memory at stock, gave me around 15% increase in FPS running Crysis 2.
     
  29. Kevin

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    If it is a power issue, the simplest solution is to buy one of the P170HM's 220W PSUs.

    You guys should to keep in mind, that housing the GTX 485M in the P150HM is already quite the feat of engineering, so you need to temper your expectations on what qualifies as a good overclock.

    Besides, what current games even necessitate the overclock?
     
  30. hizzaah

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    Do they have the same connectors? Would the bigger psu cause an issue if the p150 was left at stock settings (just want to know of the bigger psi will cause damage)..? Also, what's the size of the p170 brick vs the size of the p150's?

    Noted :)

    Probably none really. Maybe Metro? Some people just enjoy the thrill of OC to get better scores then everyone else
     
  31. Stelio

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    On my desktop I have an EVGA Nvidia GTS 250 and I use the program EVGA Precision....its really easy to overclock with that program. Maybe it will work on laptops?
     
  32. hizzaah

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    Psu from 8170.. From Mythlogic: "Different brick. Different connector. Won't work. Sorry :)"

    Oooh well. Good thought though
     
  33. Kevin

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    Well sorry I had hopes.
     
  34. hizzaah

    hizzaah Notebook Virtuoso

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    Anyone wanna buy a p170 psu, chop off its connector, then ghetto-rig their p150 connector onto it? :p
     
  35. Kevin

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    Believe me, as soon as I get my 485M, it's getting OC'd to the max. Just because I can.
     
  36. houstoned

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    would my NP8850 be able to handle the 485M, power-wise? i wanted to play around with it, and OC it, to test this laptop's cooling capabilities. my 480M won't budge past 66*c - 67*c.
     
  37. hizzaah

    hizzaah Notebook Virtuoso

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    if it can take a 480, i'd imagine it'd take a 485.. what kinda psu are you working with? 180w? gonna probably be the same thing as your 480 (and the same issue some people are seeming to run into with the np8150's): limited power available to go towards OCing
     
  38. Kevin

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    The only question is whether the GTX 485M will work at all, in the NP8850.
     
  39. hizzaah

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    bios? modded inf's?
     
  40. Kevin

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    It's GF104, like the GTX 470M, so it very well could have the BIOS support needed to function correctly.

    Someone needs to have the stones to guinea pig the situation.
     
  41. Larry@LPC-Digital

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    For an example, the NP7280 and x7200 would not recognize the 485M at all until you upgraded the bios to the 05cs dated Dec 10th. So a bios update is most likley needed for what ever machine this card would go in.
     
  42. Tapakidney

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    Any more actual OC results? I came to this thread looking for some numbers!
     
  43. hizzaah

    hizzaah Notebook Virtuoso

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    heh, join the club. thats why i started the darn thing lol
     
  44. Virale

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    I had a question for Eivind, you say you succesfully overclocked your 485m and achieved a 15% increase in FPS in crysis 2? What tools/overclocking utils/BIOS changes did you make in order to overclock?

    Explain as if you were explaining to a 5 year old because i don't know jack about overclocking. Nothing! So can you please teach me?

    My system is a Sager NP8150-S1, intel core i7 2720QM, Nvidia GeForce GTX 485M, 8Gb RAM DDR3.
     
  45. jaybee83

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    aight here we go folks (check rig in da sig *lol*):
    upper score is at stock /w 270.28 driver, lower one is oc @650/1300/1650 (core/shader/mem) with 270.51 driver

    [​IMG]

    unigine benchmark settings: FHD resolution, all graphic effects, normal tessellation, 4xAF, AA off, filtering on trilinear

    10 benchmarks run, average increase of around 9-10%, oc values were the highest settings i could run without having a single freeze / BSOD in the whole benchmark suite. a bit disappointing to be honest, but then again, what would u expect with a 100W card in a 15" laptop, right? plus, im gonna stay with the stock settings since its more than enough juice to hammer even the most demanding games into oblivion! :D

    cheers

    edit: is the pic actually visible? ^^ btw, i used MSI afterburner to overclock, easy as pie ( MSI Afterburner 2.2 Beta 2)

    edit2: one more thing i noticed: temps of the gpu maxxed out at 96-97 (alternating), at which point the card seemed to start throttling (saw the frames go down in furmark once the gpu hit that temp). it also seems that any overclock is stable as long as the card stays under these temps! otherwise ull get BSODs or freezes
     
  46. hizzaah

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    can't see the pic


    hopefully those with a notebook cooler and lower ambients will have have better luck then :) hopefully we wont have the problem someone else suggested of not being able to draw enough power from the psu..
     
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    alright, fixed the link to the bench-scores

    and yeah, those temps were under 100% furmark stress, but in games such as crysis 2 it still goes up to the low/mid 90s (saw other people post the same findings). ambient temps were in the low 20s, nothing extreme there. i also have a power-meter hooked up to the socket my laptop draws its juice from and it sometimes shows readings exceeding 200 watts! soooo, both thermally and wattage-wise there isnt much head room for overclocking, unfortunately...

    guess its back to the drawing board then! @ghetto-style DIY 220 wattage psu :D
     
  48. hizzaah

    hizzaah Notebook Virtuoso

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    i think myth mentioned at one point they had it pulling 215w from the wall :p

    but that cant be good.. i'd definitely buy one if someone offered a better psu. i've got the cooling part down (cf-19 cooler and ambient 18-22c). or even if it was we could send in our current one and pay to get it upgraded.. idk how that would work, but ok :)

    also, anyone have pics of what the 8150 and 8170 power plugs look like? (referring to the part that plugs into the laptop).. trying to get the bigger psu thing figured out in this thread: http://forum.notebookreview.com/har...rade-laptop-psu-more-wattage.html#post7332776
     
  49. hizzaah

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    bump

    here's what my machine arrived at from mythlogic:
    3D mark 11 (Performance presets)
    -Total PCMarks: P2874
    -Graphics Score: 2654
    -Physics Score: 5796
    -Combined Score: 2538

    Vantage
    -Total PCMarks: 17515
    -Memories Suite: 9943
    -TV and Movies Suite: 6428
    -Gaming Suite: 17189
    -Music Suite: 17323
    -Communications Suite: 15952
    -Productivity Suite: 19602
    -HDD Suite: 27166

    gpu clock: 575mhz
    memory: 1500mhz
    shader: 1150mhz

    will edit back with OC results
    Scores are under rview until further notice lol.. Still learning guys
    edit:
    stable OC speeds
    gpu clock: 680mhz
    memory clock: 1800mhz
    shader clock: 1360mhz
    temps never went about 81c in any benchmark or furmark (ambient ~22c, NO notebook cooler, NO Fn+1)

    OC 3DMark 06 score 20472
    OC 3DMark Vantage
    16040

    Will update with more results 4/12

    http://3dmark.com/pcmv/436272
     
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    whats ur requirement to call it "stable"? how long and with what settins did u run furmark? did u max out resolution, AA & AF settings, and set it to extreme burning mode? let it run for a minimum of 10 minutes to get ur max. temp. 74C sounds a bit unrealistic to be honest....
     
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