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    500GB Hard Drives NOW Available on Sager Models

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Justin@XoticPC, Jul 24, 2008.

  1. Justin@XoticPC

    Justin@XoticPC Company Representative

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    Cooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool :D
     
  3. Shyster1

    Shyster1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Yeesh! That means, if I count correctly (not enough fingers and toes, unfortunately :D ), up to 1.5TB on a 9262, right?
     
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    ArmageddonAsh Mangekyo Sharingan

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    when can they be brought from shops?
    any idea on price?
     
  5. Justin@XoticPC

    Justin@XoticPC Company Representative

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    MKang25 NBR Prisoner

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    Hmm I wonder how a 320gb 7200rpm will do against a 500gb 5400 in terms of read write speed.
     
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    awesome!! my unit hasn't shipped yet, think it's possible to swap out the 320's??
     
  8. Justin@XoticPC

    Justin@XoticPC Company Representative

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    As long as it hasnt shipped, please email the order change over and we would be happy to take care of it for you :D
     
  9. Wu Jen

    Wu Jen Some old nobody

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    Very sweet, so that would mean 488GB of storage per drive!!
     
  10. sujinge9

    sujinge9 Notebook Evangelist

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    Based on the comparisons of the 320gb 5400rpm and the 200gb 7200rpm. Should I expect to have similar performance between the 500 5400rpm and the 320gb 7200rpm. Maybe even a little better since 320 to 500 is denser then 200-320. Or did they have some extra platters.... so many variables.

    Here are some benchmarks and more info
    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/500gb-notebook-hdd,1960-5.html
     
  11. DRTH_STi

    DRTH_STi can't.stop.buying.laptops

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    Hey Justin since you build your laptops from scratch by getting all the parts in then putting each individual part in you probably have a lot of knowledge about this stuff.

    Which would be faster, the 7200 320gb or the 5400 500gb?
     
  12. dtwn

    dtwn C'thulhu fhtagn

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    :D :D Sager does it, Drth. And Xotipc is a lot larger than Justin alone.
     
  13. Nintendam

    Nintendam Notebook Consultant

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    that means up to 966GB in raid 5! - or 1.44TB in raid 0!!

    sorry, it's just insane haha
     
  14. NAS Ghost

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    I would imagine that the 320GB 7200 would be faster because it has two platters at 7200 rpms while the 500GB 5400 has three platters at 5400rpms. However, if i am right, i think that the 500GB would be about equal in speed with the 320GB 5400 because of disk density, number of platters, and rpm speed.

    Of course this is all speculation but I think Im close.
     
  15. sujinge9

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    Based on the review I just posted, its comparatively faster only in a few areas. But the power use is much greater then a 320 7k2. Its 25 bucks more then the 320 7k2 that I'm getting. I have to decide if that 180gb extra that I'm getting is worth the lack or performance and battery life. And I have to decide quick since its already being built and should be shipping anyday now since I preordered way back. Any thoughts on this?
     
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    i've got the same issue, ordered last thursday, excatly one week ago... so it's cutting it close

    I shot an email to the [email protected], and called, but on the phone they said it might take up to 24 hours... hopefully sager gets the memo to stop the shipping!

    as for the decision, the price comparitive to storage is really cheap/
    25 bucks for 180gb?? thats nice... i was sold on 1tb in raid 5... and with the density of the drives, the speed increase of the 7200rpm 320gb should be negligible, its just not worth missing out on 360gb extra of storage (or 540gb in raid 0)
     
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    I'm getting the 570tu so our situation is slightly different. I need the batter life to take advantage of the mobility, while you would probably be plugged in 90% of the time anyways. lol.
    But I do see what you mean, the gigs to dollar ratio is pretty good, but as you can see in my sig, I'm weird enough to get the raptor, which probably has the worst dollar for gig ratio for consumer hdds. I'm kinda spoiled on that too, and cutting the speed pretty much in half kinda hurts.... At this rate I'm probably going to stick to the 320 unless some one is nice enough to help me find some benchmarks showing direct comparisons between the two hdds.
    Thanks.
     
  18. Fade To Black

    Fade To Black The Bad Ass

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    Supposedly the 500GB Samsung HDD is not very good. Someone here posted some benchmarks and it underperformed compared to the Seagate/Hitachi 200GB 7200RPM and Western Digital 320GB 5400RPM.
     
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    from the link:
    well good in that sense, but states the avg acess time is 12ms, which translates to 19ms somehow, but it's not that great - plus the battery drain,

    so in your case you might be right, but in mine-- gimme gimme
     
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    Hmm... now that you brought those two numbers together, whats the difference between throughput and access time? throughput is transfer of data packets. If you can transfer data packets faster, wouldn't you need equally high access time to use it? So it they are unequal, one would be a bottle neck for the other right?
     
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    well seems like: for big transfers, the samsung spinpoint it top of the class, fasted throughput recorded right now...

    but for access time/speed... not so well, complete opposite, nearly last in most of the benchmarks - the seagate 320gb 7200rpm destroy's it....hmmmm maybe I acted too soon on that swap
     
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    hmm... now the only thing is what are "big transfers". If my game maps and photoshop stuff and animation stuff load nice and fast, then that's fine. If I have to wait an extra second for word, who cares. Now the only thing is power consumption. The review said its 10 or so % more draining, and my CPU is 30% less draining due to montevina. Not sure whats the exact wattage, or I don't feel like looking it back up, for the hdd is, but it seems like I'll still have some advantage over the last gen stuff. I'll probably spend 70% of my time on power, so I guess I'll get it. Its better then getting an external.
     
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    Take a look here for performance. Apparently it sucks.
     
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    yup apparently its worse that previous 5400rpm drives, wow... maybe ill send another email out to not swap
     
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    320gb 7200rpm for me
     
  26. Prasad

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    Damn... this 500GB drive is the only thing I'd want from current offerings in my laptop.... more space. Having 1 HD in the 5793 was it's only downfall according to me... weird how 9262 has 3.... if only they came up with a middle model with 2 :p I could have had 640 (320x2) GB then :( Oh well....
     
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    Sorry Justin, looks like you gotta wait a little longer and let the big boys release their 500GB drives before anyone takes it. :)
     
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    Sorry to rain on your parade Justin but with the D901C this may be true however the NP9262 isn't the first with 1TB+

    Problem was that all the reviews were done months ago and then, just as everyone was getting exited, Samsung decided to exclusively supply one OEM. We should all have had them months ago :mad:
     
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    would I be able to do an after-purchase swap with the drives myself? including formatting/raid/OS install...etc

    are there any compatibility issues I should know

    not now, but in the future - im sticking with the 320gb at 7200rpm for now
     
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    Yeah, so your best choice would to buy a 320gb and then buy better 500s as they come out. Its as easy as desktop hdd switching, I think.

    @ resellers: So are these reviews accurate about power consumption and performance?
     
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    even the 320gb 5400 rpm's are really fast now.. imo i dont see any need for the 7200 rpm ones personally.. especially if they are raid 0.. but the 5400 rpm 500gb will do better due to platter density as long as they didnt go to more smaller size platters imo
     
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    wow, at last a good HD.. i always been waiting one for it!!! gonna reconfigure my NP8860 Lolz
     
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    The 320@5400 and the 320@7200 are about similar in price anyway, so why take the lowest? :)
     
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    Does anyone know how the hard drives are placed in the 9262 ? Are the disk1 and disk2 put one above the other with a metal rig like in the 9750 ? and is the disk3 separate ?

    I'm trying to figure out how to combine a 2x 320@7200 and 1x 500@5400 so that the heat distribution is optimal (ie the 320@7200 with the 500@5400 together and the 2nd 320@7200 separate).

    Thanks,
    Erik
     
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    Yes, there is a caddy in the middle of the chassis which takes two HDDs, one above the other, and the third drive site under the battery.
     
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    i know this was mentioned in a previous post but i just cant find it/

    which model are the 320gb 7k2 drives in the 9262? seagate something?
     
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    I know xotic pc uses the seagate 7200.3 momentus.