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    675mx & 670mx

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Netherwind, Oct 3, 2012.

  1. Netherwind

    Netherwind Notebook Evangelist

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    I didn't see a thread dedicated to these here.

    AnandTech - NVIDIA Quietly Releases GeForce GTX 670MX and GTX 675MX for Notebooks

    Keplar versions of the 670/675 finally. Hopefully it makes the P151em more of a worthy buy over the W350.

    Does anyone know of a reseller stocking the new parts yet?

    Edit: I see Origin has them for $15 more than their original parts and xotic wants $150 to add it to the P151EM
     
  2. Zymphad

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    All Clevo sellers for the most part will have them. There is a very large thread on these two for a while now, maybe few weeks.
     
  3. failwheeldrive

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    Yup, mine is already ordered from Xotic. The cards will be in by the end of October.
     
  4. Netherwind

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    Seems like they shouldn't cost $150 more than their counterparts that are being phased out..
     
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    If they overclock well I might get rid of my 7970m for a 675mx.
     
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    Hi arcticjoe,
    I think with the upcoming AMD Enduro drivers, your 7970m should be faster than these newcomers... And while the 670mx may need less power than 100W, the 675mx will probably use the MXM limit (100 W) so no difference from yours in heat generation? Or any other reason to get rid of the 7970m?
     
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    seeing as 680m generates less than 100w tdp (despite being rated at 100w) I doubt 675mx will be more than 75w. Besides, Kepler seems to run a lot cooler than AMDs 7000 series, so I'd guess one could push a 675mx pretty close to 680m performance levels... I will wait and see what AMD produce with that Enduro driver, but I am not hopeful of a complete fix and have a feeling there will be an improvement instead where performance will be still a little limited by this bandwidth bottleneck somewhat.
    Time will tell and I could be wrong about both my assumptions here, but buying 7970m left a bad taste in my mouth so I cant wait to shift it for a product with proper driver support.
     
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    Well, I can't believe I'm saying this, but I may change my order to a 7970 from the 675mx... My girlfriend's laptop overheated and died last night, so we'll both be out of a laptop for a month if I wait on the 675mx. I originally chose the 675m over the 7970 bc of enduro issues, then upgraded to the 675mx when it was added to xotic's site. I'm not sure what to do now. The hotfix looks promising, and if they can continue to make improvements on the 7970 it may turn out to be the better option. Even if they don't completely rid the bottleneck, it's still a more powerful card than the 675mx, right?

    conflicted :(
     
  10. kolias

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    let me help you with that.
    as gaming perfomance stock to stock,the 7970m is as fast as 680m.
    so compare the 675mx vs 680m. :)
     
  11. arcticjoe

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    without Enduro in the picture they are close, with Enduro 680m wins by a country mile. Will have to wait and see what this fix will produce, but I have a feeling people are celebrating a little too early - lets see some proper benchmarks first. Anandtech's results are promising at lower resolutions (which lets be honest, nobody here will be playing at), but differences seem pretty small at 1080p...
     
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    Pretty much all I read online (from clevo/sager owners at least) is negative stuff about enduro :(. Like underutilization of 50-60%... if that were really the case then the 675mx would run be faster than the 7970 while gpu utilization is low, right?

    However, if the new drivers really do fix things then the 7970 will blow the 675mx out of the water... I guess I'm just worried that there still may be problems. I really wish the enduro could be shut off on clevos like it can on alienware laptops. The AW 7970 is awesome!

    I'm just torn between reliable performance/driver support (nvidia) and higher performance potential/possible enduro problems (amd). How does your 7970 run? Is the underutilization bad? I've seen youtube videos of BF3 running at <30 fps :/
     
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    I would wait a week to see what improvements we get from this hotfix... if 7970m will still be bottle-necked you would probably be able to OC 675mx to get higher performance than OC'd 7970m (because OCing might not increase the fps due to PCIe bottleneck)
     
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    It does look promising, but I'm skeptical too. If they do end up fixing it, I'd definitely regret getting the 675mx. However, if six months down the road I'm battling enduro because I picked the 7970, I'll hate myself forever lol.
     
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    solid advice. thanks man. for now I still have my np6165 (I'm returning it for the 9150) so I can hopefully wait another week before Sager responds to my RMA request and I have to ship it back.
     
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    the differences seem small at 1080p because even with enduro the 7970M already run at near 99% utilization.
     
  17. arcticjoe

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    if 7970m ran at near 99% utilization at 1080p nobody here would be complaining... I have found only 2 games so far that run at near constant 90+% utilization (Max Payne 3 and Metro 2033). All other games can dip well bellow 70% mark.
    anyway, lets wait for that driver leak, anandtech's testing methodology seems a little basic - testing only max fps and no utilization graphs gives us very little indication about hot effective this fix will be. Would be nice if they added min and average to those metrics.
     
  18. Saodexan

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    You have 90%+ utilization in BF3 solo. We dont know the test but im getting 90% utilization in most game when you play everything maxed. The issue is when i want 60 fps and i can't lower my setting, pretty good reason to complain if you ask me.