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    6970m heat question

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by trinox, Oct 3, 2011.

  1. trinox

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    Hi,

    I ve recently got a P170hm with the 6970m with arctic silver 5, when i play games like crysis 2 or witcher 2 it goes up to something like 92-5C What should I do? But the thing is the Fan seems really quiet and not at full blast.... anyone know whats wrong with it? CPU cools just fine max is 70sC
     
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    try to repaste with ICD7.its the best paste out there.what room temp u have?
     
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    ICD 7 cool, I think the room temp is about 24C. nut when idel its about 45C so I think its mostly to do with the fan not spinning fast enough when needed..
    Is it quiet common for this card to run moderately fast. I mean I can turn the fan to max using fn 1 but its got the pulsing bug.... any other options??
     
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    also what BIOS and EC/KBC u have??my 6970m idles at 40 celsius and full load goes 75-76 depends what game i play!!my room temp is 25.5 celsious..
     
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    i have the 1.01.02 bios with 1.00.03 ec/kbc. thats some awesome temps
     
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    does it fix the heat issue?
     
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    it fixes the fun cycle problem!!!
     
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    Awesome, would that help with lowering my temp?
     
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    maybe yes but i think u need to repaste too..its the stock paste u have now?
     
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    No I have the arctic silver 5. someone also told me that fan control on the 6970m is controlled by the V bios. what do you think?
    Also I ve contacted my reseller and he had no idea about this bios problem untill today nor did he know the fn + function.....
     
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    the fan control as i know is controlled via the EC/KBC...
     
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    cool. is is also good to update the V bios if there is one?
     
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    no dont touch the V-bios just update the bios and the ec/kbc.also repaste the card and if u want lift the back of ur laptop 2.5mm.thats all.. :)
     
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    Okay, I will wait for the reseller to come up with some kind of official bios but if they cant find anything which is going to be likely. I will try the bios from the forum. btw should i have any problems with using the bios from this site?
     
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    i update mine from the forum no problems with it!!!update those two i told u but read the instructions on the first page first!!!
     
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    okay will give them a try once the reseller contacts me!! thanks for answering all my questions! will let you know how it all goes
     
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    np man!! :)
     
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    Trinox: if your on a sager branded laptop and you swap to Clevo bios, you can never go back to a Sager bios. It would brick the laptop. I am not saying you shouldn't, but that is a very important aspect of doing it. It is in the 1st page directions that Johnny alluded to.

    I would personally go with the IC7 and invest in a laptop cooler. The IC7 will drop temps 3-5c and the cooler another 4 (my tests did at least).

    I run the Witcher 2 at 84c max (on a 6990m) - maybe those adjustments get you to similar levels too? Math works...
     
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    what laptop cooler u have my friend??i have cooler master u3 and icd7 and my temps dropped down in total 11-12.icd 7 dropped them by 8!!! :D
     
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    here are my temps after vantage run at stock speeds with 11.9 drivers!!!room temp 25.7!!




    edit:vantage overclocked 850-1050 room temp 25.8



    edit:here is 3dmark 11 stock without CCC tweaks!!



    here overclocked 850-1050!!!

     
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    Johny could you upload your original 6970M videobios?
     
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    I've flashed a 6990M bios on it , and it's not working that great have to revert all changes and drivers to retest if it's still causin crashes. =]

    Why?
    It enables custom fan table ; to make the fan speed % scale with temperature =]
     
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    I am back again, just to check the current bios has TUN at the end of the number, is this clevo or sager??
     
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    I managed to find the bios but there is no 1.00.11 ec/kbc for the p170hm
     
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    i thought u have p150hm!!!!lol.use BIOS 1.01.10 then and EC/KBC V 1.00.06!!!
     
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    cool awesome, is it possible that i might have a faulty 6970m?? also does the changing the catalyst drive increase temps??
     
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    my first two 6970m were faulty!!!my temps gone 99-100 celsious in 3 mins of gaming with my first one!!with my second the card broke after a month of use!!!sometimes yes the drivers can increase temps but not so much!!
     
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    I just contacted my reseller in Japan about the bios and he only discovered that there is a new one today...what a joke. I also told him about some 6970m being faulty with tempurature, he didnt know about that either. Now he has told me that I should not use the laptop and will have to take it to the shop :( this sucks
     
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    thats bad news...maybe the give u a new one??
     
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    looks like rage will have to wait a little longer :(
     
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    wish u good luck then!!! :) did my best to help u!!
     
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    Yeah I thanks a lot for all the help man! :)
     
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    ur welcome!!!hope to hear news soon!!!
     
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    I've exactly this problem but my reseller is hammering ont he fact that I changed thermal paste and ed up the card .... They won't replace it.
     
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    Wow. I presume that is not one of the regular re-sellers we hear from on these boards. They seem to recommend a thermal paste change to fix heat problems - not remove your warranty. You re-seller should be thanking you for trying to address the problem yourself with an easy potential fix before harassing them. I would keep pounding them on the subject myself...
     
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    I will check this when i get home. It was one of the cheaper models, $30 bux from amazon (prime shipping too!). The fans seemed to line-up with our laptop's intakes though.

    Impressive drops from ICD7.
     
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    i tried many pastes like arctic silver ceramique,arctic silver 5,arctic mx-4 but icd7 was the best and the worse was arctic silver 5 for me!!!
     
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    Just an update got my laptop back, fan seems to be working properly. Now idles at 44C
     
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    I own a Clevo p170HM with a 6970M (Dutch label BTO) since July 11.

    Two weeks ago my notebook shut itself down all of a sudden and I started monitoring system temps. My gpu also went to 100 ish degrees C pretty quickly during gaming. When idling it quickly rose from 45 to 55 ish degrees C.

    So I RMA'd it and according to BTO it was related to dust! Gave me the odd advice to put a vacuum cleaner on the gpu exhaust once a week! They cleaned my fans, repasted the Arctic Silver paste and put on a new BIOS version. Now my idle temp remains around 46 degrees C and while gaming gpu temps dont surpass 82 degrees C.
    I still find it hard to believe that after two months the gpu fans already collected too much dust. But hey, 3 years warranty so let's see what happens from now on.
     
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    It's not surprising considering how often those fans are spinning up, and that the intakes are on the bottom. If you're in even a moderately dusty environment, they'll suck up quite a bit of it. It's always a good idea to clean the fans/heatsinks fairly often. Considering it's quite easy to get to them and clean them, it's a simple task anyway :)

    Repasting on the other hand shouldn't be necessary if it's done right the first time as TIM doesn't just "go bad".

    Also, to keep your temps down- keep the machine on a hard level surface and possibly with the back end raised to help with ventilation. Most here note that it makes a pretty significant difference.
     
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