6970m into the Clevo W860CU/W870CU or Sager NP8690/NP8760

Those temps are a bit too high, you are getting close to 100 degrees on the memory or shader. I would repaste and undervolt.

This is probably because you are using 12.2 drivers or later. Here is a solution to your problem:
Can not initialize atipdlxx library - Guru3D.com Forums

There is a guide to undervolting + setting up profiles in this thread: http://forum.notebookreview.com/sager-clevo/576540-6970m-undervolting-3.html
More specifically this post: http://forum.notebookreview.com/sager-clevo/576540-6970m-undervolting-3.html#post7472193

I've set it up to auto overclock, and also use profiles assigned to hotkeys.

 

1.) Liquid metal cooling pads are:
CoollaboratoryLiquid MetalPad - the innovation of cooling for High-End sytems
--> quite good cooling power, but shady if you want to remove it (nearly impossible)


And I also think 80 °C is absolutely ok under load but way over 90 °C is too hot. I also think you should repaste your card. Maybe you forgot an important piece (Like I did). I got temps of nearly 100 °C at idle (@Temp. #2)when I forgot to put cooling pad on the grey dice (marked red in picture). After I put one more layer of cooling pad on top, it worked fine The green areas should be covered with cooling pads. A 6870 should be quite similar... (BTW: Picture shows a 6990)


To undervolt my card I used RBE 1.28. But you can only set lower voltage values in steps of 0,05 V. I only changed the voltage there and I use ATI overdrive to set the frequency.

By the way an other advantage of the new card is, that powerplay works now. I needed to flash a MSI bios to my old 5870 to get it to work corectly.

 

Arne, can you tell us some more about the image you uploaded? Like what the components (other than the vram) are and why they need cooling? Also, why is there a red circle over some of the parts? This is ususally a part of the heatsink that needs to be removed, so placing thermal pads there won't work in that case.

I really like the picture though. Easy to understand where to apply

 

arne, I tried to use RBE, however, there is only one value for my voltage. From what I understand after reading the RBE tutorial, you can only enter the values that is listed on the voltage drop down box, you can't just type a random voltage value there like "1.0" if it is not listed. In my case, I only have the stock. Does this mean the voltage control on my card is locked?

 

I don't think that this part has to be removed. There are IMHO different ways to modify the heatsink and also different layouts of the blackcomb cards. My 6970m has exactly the same layout from the pic that Arne posted and I didn't need to modify my (5870) heatsink there.

 

I was able to fix ATI tray tools by downloading atipdlxx.dll and sticking it inside the ati folder. I successfully undervolted to 1.000V so far and ran 3dmark 11 with no issues or blue screen. I'm gonna try gaming to see how it fares. I might try to undervolt again to the lowest I can with the default clocks.

 

Hello!

I wonder if it is worth to buy a used clevo w860cu, spec: Full hd screen, i5 450m and a gtx 280m, but the battery is broken and the HDD is broken too. I will use the laptop to a lan computer not a main computer. Could I buy a ssd and put it into the clevo w860cu? And where could i found a cheap battery? He wants 4000 SEK. Sry for my bad english Btw, i'm realy tired so godnight xD

 

Hi. First of all, how much is 4000 SEK in US dollars? I'm sorry but I don't know what currency is SEK. Battery can be easily bought off of ebay and honestly, you are going to use your laptop with the power brick plugged in at all times anyway as the battery on these laptops only lasts for about an hour. You can easily replace the HDD and the battery but obviously, if the cost is too high, it would not be worth it. Also, for my point of view at least, an i5 450m might be too low of a CPU and the GPU is a little outdated.

 

Hmm... after undervolting below 1.000v I get this error once in awhile while surfing the internet, "the display driver has stopped responding and has recovered successfully." The screen freezes at first then turns black, but then it recovers. anyone had this happened before?

 

Yes...

It happened here too. So do not go below 1,00 V and you should be fine or reduce the clocks.

 

Yeah I went back to 1.000v and it never happened again. It happened at .950v as well and I haven't tried anything higher except for 1.000v I'm probably gonna try .960v .970v .980v and .990v to see if it's stable at any of those values.

 

Hello!
Okey, 1 US dollar= 7,14SEK, So about 560 US dollars. How easy can I update the CPU? Could i buy a I7 820QM?

 

Btw, could i overclock the CPU?

 

oan001 told me that you can't overclock the CPU unless it's a 920xm. reason for this is the motherboard does not support FSB overclock so therefore the cpu with unlock multiplier, 920xm, is the only one that can be overclock. same goes for 940xm. $560 USD with all those upgrades it might not be worth it man. Anyone have any input on this?

 

Okey, What is this laptop worth?

 

Not sure but you should start your own thread because this is a 6970m on w870cu thread.

 

okey, I think I buy a G53SW instead.

 

Just an update to people who are still thinking about this upgrade. I got the 6970m to work with ATI tray tools undervolting it at the following profiles: web browsing/idle .750v 100 core/150 memory, streaming/watching high quality movies .850v 300 core/900 memory, gaming .960v 680 core/900 memory which is stock. I did not overclock my card as I don't think it is necessary. Hopefully this helps some people who are thinking about this quality upgrade.

 

What are your temps now while gaming?

 

I've only tried fear so far. my temps were about 63-64 degrees celsius. Also, I ran furmark for about 2 hours when I changed my thermal compound to IC diamond 7. I was stressing the GPU in order for the TIM to cure and my max temp during those two hours of stress test was 77 degrees. pretty good I must say.

 

So are any of you going to take the challenge and upgrade to a 7970m if the heatsink is compatible or is this the end of the era for our w870cu/w860cu?

 

Just got a reply from Eurocom regarding the 7970m saying they actually did some testing on the w860cu and found it didn't work. Trying to pry more out as to what the issue was (BIOS/power/heat?).

 

Thanks for sharing this info, and please keep us updated

 

Update is they say it's a BIOS(vBIOS) issue so unless they feel like dumping money into an old platform I'd say no updates forthcoming. I put an order in for a 6990m instead :|

 

I realize I am bringing up an older thread, but does any one know where I could get a 6970M with the modded heat sink? I don't really trust myself going at it with a hacksaw to try and make it fit

 

Aw man.. But some dude made it work though, even though no1 knows who he is haha

You sure? I mean if it actually works, I would love to throw some money into the W860CU and install a 940XM now I'm on it.. damn

I might... at some point, that is if the 7970M works in the W860CU and I actually decide to buy it ^^

 

hi captain P1an3t eurocom will mod a heat sink for you if you ask them nicely thay sell them on ebay that is were i got mine :
AMD Radeon HD6970M MXM 3.0b; 2GB DDR5; w/ Soldered Posts & Matching Screws | eBay

 

I might also sell 2x 6970M's soon, as I'm about to order a 680M for my X7200. If anyone near Austria, Europe, is interested, just send me a PM!
I would also include the X7200 Heatsinks etc. since the 680M requires different ones which I will also order.

 

7970M WORKS IN THE CLEVO W880CU W870CU
eurocom have tested the 7970m in the Clevo W880CU W870CU IT WORKS
Thay say that the W860CU "requires complex heat modifications"

 

So the 7970m does work but gets really hot? Perhaps they should add some copper heatsinks and better thermal compound and a lil undervolting magic.

 

Hi,people. I see-here new posts,so,i wont ask to help me.
Here is my problem:
this morning- windows 7 x64 start,and after animation is only black screen and a cursor. I was restore windows to previos state,but problem is same. in safe mode-all working fine. when i disable wideocard HD6970-can see a desktop and windows is work. What can be a problem?? If card is dead,i think not possible see a cursor??

P150HM i7-2720QM , HD6970 , SSD 64 GB ,12GB RAM, FHD(1920*1080) , Windovs 7x64

 

I don't think you understand.

It fits alright, but even with complex heat modifications the machine SHUTS DOWN automatically. The only thing to fix this is the vBIOS.

btw use a bigger font size next time, couldn't really read it :/

There's a rare fix for that. Happens on a few W860CU's too, happened on mine twice but I OC so yeah.

What you do is insert a HDMI stick and throw it up onto another screen. Click WINDOWS KEY + P twice and it should be fixed. You'll either see your screen, or the screen on the external monitor or both screens. Afterwards everything should work fine.
Windows restore doesn't fix anything.

You can instead install a newer driver if you feel like it in Safe Mode, otherwise nothing but what I just told you to do

 

2 jaug1337 thanks a lot , i will try.

 

Again, best of luck !

 

hallo jaug1337! have more to ask:
1-can i fix this bug by reinstallin win 7??
2-can u give me a link how to install a newer driver in Safe Mode??
sorry and thanks again.

 

jaug1337 ,can u tell me-reinstalling windows 7 will fix this bug? and please,specify-"insert a HDMI stick and throw it up onto another screen". i never us to any video cables (only USB).

p.s. and i try to replase boot SSD with other (same windows 7) HDD -black screen and cursor..... so, it is a hardware problem......only i dont understand,how windows can show a cursor and spining cirkle,if HD6970 is don't work??

 

If you've got a HDMI stick (I can understand that you have not) then you should be able to fix the problem (I think..).

I'm not sure if the problem is going to be fixed with a new W7 installation.

When starting up the computer in Safe Mode make sure you select the Safe Mode with Networking, after that go on the internet, download the newest version of AMD driver for you 6970M and install it.

It's the 6970M that is playing with you :/ What you can do is. Try clicking F8 (as normally you go into Safe Mode) and instead of picking Safe Mode, pick the normal Low Resolution boot, if it works, then uninstall your current AMD driver.

The way to uninstall your current AMD driver is by downloading the newest AMD driver, then starting the installation up and pick "UNINSTALL" instead of "INSTALL/UPDATE" it will remove your AMD drivers. Afterwards try downloading Guru3D - Driver Sweeper and so you've got it ready. When the UNINSTALL of the AMD driver is finished, restart the computer, go into Safe Mode and open the Drive Sweeper program. Pick the AMD drivers and remove them from the machine. Now you should be able to boot into Windows normally.

If you cannot, then try the Low Resolution boot again and install the newest driver from there and restart. If it works, then congratulations. If not then do try to get a HDMI stick, and use that HDMI stick to put into the HDMI input on your computer, and put the other end of the HDMI stick into another screen or TV or something that can show your PC screen. Then use WINDOWS KEY + P to enter the specialized settings so you can enter the PROJECTER options.

Good luck -also sorry for the wall of text, I'm insanely tired, and I know that I repeated myself 900 times, but I hope it'll work out for you

 

U the best!! THANKS!!i will try..... and have a rest!!:thumbsup:

 

Ok,here is : Guru3D - Driver Sweeper help me remove a drivers and i was able boot in win7 low-resolution mode......... but after installing original drivers OR a last one-problem coming back and i can see a windows only with disabled VGA...
Only one more hope- HDMI stick........ will try to find it...
may be some other ideas? how to locate a problem? (reinstall win7,flash VBIOS...e.t.c.) or i need to call in RMA??

 

If you can then do call RMA; it' help for good. If you found a HDMI stick/cable then find a TV/screen/monitor to plug it into and see if it works.

Bet of luck!!

 

update for peoples having same problem:i have to reset BIOS to default,update ALL win-updates,and naw i can boot windows 7 in normal mode,and driver version is 8.14.10.00.23 and in device manager is HD6900 Series display adapter,working properly.So,i think it is a Catalist problem...and gona try to install previos version.... i be in touch.

 

15 minutes later:NOY,it is dont work for me.... now i am from safe mode..after install Catalist 12-10_mobility_vista_win7_win8_64_dd_ccc_whql_net4 from AMD site have black screean and i leave for 5 minut-cooler start REALY hevy job...

 

update for peoples having same problem:i have to reset BIOS to default,update ALL win-updates,and naw i can boot windows 7 in normal mode,and driver version is 8.14.10.00.23 and in device manager is HD6900 Series display adapter,working properly.So,i think it is a Catalist problem...and gona try to install previos version.... i be in touch.




and 10 more minyt later:i was disable a CatalistCCC and AMD External Bla-Bla-Bla(AMD External Events Utility)..and windows start in full resolytion... BUT in 2 minits starts artefacts-look here: https://picasaweb.google.com/116822894645076601694/31October2012

so-i am disable VGA and will wait to RMA.......

 

Hi !

How many heatpads for memory do I need for 6970M mounted in place of old nVidia ?

 

I'm going to bring this 6 month old thread back to life because I am wondering if this upgrade is worth it. I would also truly appreciate it if someone could point me in the right direction as to where to get the card with a proper fitting heatsink/bracket as well as any bios upgrades that are needed

 

If it's really cheap then maybe, not worth investing a lot.

 

About the heatsink, you can mod it yourself probably, I drilled a away some bits and the 6970m would fit in. There are guides on the forum here.
And you can buy the card on this forum sometimes. And you could also go for the more expensive 6990m (gets a lil hotter) or the 7970m but this one needs some more modification to the heatsink and you need an version without enduro.

A year ago I bought a 6970m for 140 euro including shipping and sold my 5870m for 70 so yeah it was totally worth it
50% more performance for a 70 euro extra investment, im now looking for a good deal on a 7970m but there still really expensive.

 

You can find some bargains on 2nd hand cards, you just have to be wise on your knowledge about the cards.

7970M is new tech still really, so it wont drop until it is.