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    6970m problem need help!!!!!!!!!

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by johnnyman27, Sep 2, 2011.

  1. johnnyman27

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    i have a problem with 6970m.till today all was good.when i boot my pc today the screen was black and nothing happened..i unscrew the card put it back again nothing the same.then i put back my 460m and pc works great.what happened?????pls help.
     
    johnnyman27, Sep 2, 2011
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    did you overclock your 6970? Looks like it could be a fried GPU.
     
    lazard, Sep 2, 2011
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    i didnt overclock no.........
     
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    Man, sorry to hear that. Looks like your gpu may be screwed. Went through the same thing twice myself. This is why I won't be buying any more AMD cards in the future. Nvidia may be overpriced but I've yet to run across any posts or threads regarding their parts crapping out.
     
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  5. johnnyman27

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    its was my first time that i bough ati and its the last one......some opinions??is the card fried??
     
    johnnyman27, Sep 2, 2011
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    johnnyman27, Sep 2, 2011
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    It´s defective. Had the same thing with TWO 6970m´s. Won´t buy any ATI card in near future, too. My GTX 485m may be expensive, but till now no problems...
     
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    till yesterday worked fine without any issues..........how is this possible???
     
    johnnyman27, Sep 2, 2011
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    Did you try resetting the CMOS by unplugging the AC adapter, laptop battery, and CMOS battery?

    Also try re-seating the RAM and hard drives.
     
    c0nfucius, Sep 2, 2011
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    i tried resetting the CMOS by unplugging the AC adapter, laptop battery, and CMOS battery and hard drives.i didnt try ram but my 460m works like a charm. :confused: :confused:
     
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  12. Tirenz

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    I don´t know, but same here.
    There were some speculations about bad batches of the 6970m, maybe we got the cards from that batch...
     
    Tirenz, Sep 2, 2011
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  13. DEagleson

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    Maybe you got some leftover Nvidia stuff on your Windows install?
    Try making a linux live cd / dvd distro and after you change the gpu boot that up.

    Wont mess with your Windows installation as long as you dont start installing it.

    My own HD 6970m runs rock stable @ 850 core and 1100 memory.

    Wish you luck.
     
    DEagleson, Sep 2, 2011
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  14. johnnyman27

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    i used the 6970m for a month at clean windows install...today suddenly stopped worked.laptop starts with black screen with like it is with no power but the leds are on..
     
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    It sounds strange for a card to crap out that fast. :(
    I guess you got the proper heatsink, and the bigger powersupply (you do got the one without rubber coating?)

    You could try a bios upgrade but i doubt it woulf fix it.

    I own the bigger P170HMx.
     
    DEagleson, Sep 2, 2011
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  16. Eldaren

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    Didn't you just repaste your card? Did this fail after the repaste?
     
    Eldaren, Sep 2, 2011
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    yes i repaste the card yesterday.today the laptop worked only a little then black screen after reboot :(
     
    johnnyman27, Sep 2, 2011
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  18. Eldaren

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    Check the paste job... make sure it's not on the silicone and what not. If you haven't checked, it's possible you applied too much. There should be a black tape like cover to prevent damage from thermal paste but you may not have one.
     
    Eldaren, Sep 2, 2011
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    silicon???i have the black cover.is it safe to remove it and clean it??
     
    johnnyman27, Sep 2, 2011
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    I raised the back of my Eurocom Racer about 1 inch and it makes a huge difference in temps. Mine could go over 100C gaming with it laying flat. Now it stays about 80C max and sometimes even lower. Couldnt belieive what a diff it made. Sounds like you been playin around a lot with that card. My motto is if it aint broke dont fix it. Where did you buy the GPU?
     
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    u had the same thing u mean black screen when boot pc???
     
    johnnyman27, Sep 3, 2011
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  22. Tirenz

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    Yes. Exactly the same thing with both cards. One card did boot with screen at first but got black screen when booting in windows, but after some time, it stayed black completely.
     
    Tirenz, Sep 3, 2011
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    i had exactly the same issue like u my friend.i have the card one month and the half of the month i was holiday......
     
    johnnyman27, Sep 3, 2011
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    That's odd that it would just die out of the blue like that. I've had my 6970m since May and have abused the hell out of it. But it keeps on like a champ. I constantly game at 870/1100. No issues yet *knocks on wood*.
     
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    i ll rma it back..probably they ll sent me a new one...maybe it was one from the bad batch of 6970m's...bad luck..
     
    johnnyman27, Sep 3, 2011
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  26. Eldaren

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    Well I don't think they have anymore 6970's. Unless they keep inventory just for RMA purposes. They may just give you a 6990m.
     
    Eldaren, Sep 3, 2011
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    u think so???maybe they keep maybe they sent me a 6990m :)
     
    johnnyman27, Sep 3, 2011
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  28. Larry@LPC-Digital

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    The 6970M is still available at your reseller just FYI... :)
    _
     
    Larry@LPC-Digital, Sep 3, 2011
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    i ll RMA it back!!!hope they give a new one....thats very sad.. :(
     
    johnnyman27, Sep 4, 2011
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    Well if you keep getting a 6970m and it keep getting high temperature, eventually they would have to give you a 6990m :wink:
     
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    my temps was fine but the card died suddenly after only one month and the half month i was on holiday....
     
    johnnyman27, Sep 4, 2011
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    Tell me, how did you ran the GTX460M with AMD drivers?
    Your 6970M did not start because you have not uninstalled the nvidia drivers. You need to insert the nvidia card, then uninstall all Nvidia drivers and then insert the AMD card and install the AMD drivers.
     
    bonnie.clyde, Sep 4, 2011
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    That's not the problem, drivers are needed inside Windows. His card shows black screen, he cant see bios, he can't see anything at all, it's dead.
     
    psarrism, Sep 4, 2011
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    Maybe not dead...is something loose? Like a wire?

    Mr. Mysterious
     
    Mr_Mysterious, Sep 4, 2011
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  35. bonnie.clyde

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    You can't replace the nvidia card with AMD card without uninstalling the nvidia drivers.
     
    bonnie.clyde, Sep 4, 2011
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    It has nothing to do with that, again: The laptop does NOT boot. If he turns the power button, the screen stays black. Does not show BIOS, no nothing.
     
    Tirenz, Sep 4, 2011
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    He stated he ran the AMD card on a clean Windows install, thus making the Nvidia driver on AMD gpu suggestion invalid.

    I would get its either bios or hardware related error.
    Hope the RMA works out.
     
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    thx all for the help but i think my 6970m is dead..as Tirenz said the laptop does not boot.when i press the power button, the screen stays black. Does not show bios, no nothing. :(
     
    johnnyman27, Sep 5, 2011
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    I know but, did You uninstall the nvidia drivers before inserting the AMD card ?
     
    bonnie.clyde, Sep 5, 2011
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    yes man..when i received 6970m i format my hd and did a clean install...after only a month 6970m is dead.now i put back my 460m unistall ati drivers and intalled nvidia drivers.460m works fine!!
     
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    If so, how did you manage to run the Nvidia card after crashing AMD cards with drivers from AMD. I tried this and it is not possible.
     
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    i put the nvidia card in my laptop repaste it,turn the laptop on.i boot in windows.i unistall amd drivers then i boot in safe mode and clean with driver sweaper.again i boot in windows install nvidia drivers and now laptop works like a charm!!!no errors!! :)
     
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    You couldn't do that at all, because the laptop would not boot.
    There is no bios, no boot, nothing except a black screen.
     
    bonnie.clyde, Sep 5, 2011
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    laptop can't boot with with 6970m cuz there is no bios, no boot, nothing except a black screen but with 460m can boot!!!6970m is DEAD.. :(
     
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    Again, drivers are not the issue here. You can have a working nvidia card, you can take it out, plug in a new amd card for the first time and boot into windows normally (with default windows drivers) or enter safe mode. A working card should show the bios screen when you press power button, a dead card doesn't. This card is dead.
     
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    Hi,people!! can somebody send me a link-how to repaste a P150HM??? i am worry of my HD 6970M-4 days ago i (playng Crysys2) -was some stack-no next level booting....display was black,but with back light, then i check a temp with HWINFO32 in GPU TS2(Shader) line =102 C!!! and until today-no problem, but today-in CrysisEditor when i jast load a big map-was one blackout (1 or 2 sekonds)-seams to me same=black,but with back light,and important thing-ALL black,inkluding a windovs7x64 tray and so on...and after boot editor level-no problem again.
    is that not to late repaste??
    P.S. sorry for my english...
    p.p.s.:HawkForce - DragonP150HM ,i7-2720Qm,6gb-ram,hd6970-ati,64gbcrucial+500gb/wd
     
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    Anthony@MALIBAL, Sep 8, 2011
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    thanks a lot for fast replay !! i am looking for Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra ,but first- will consult in a shop.......

    and again: is that not to late repaste??
    it's not a "fried" ???
     
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    It sounds like you were able to boot up and use it again, so no- it sounds like it's not fried. It may have just shut down the machine due to overheating (which is a safety feature). If you're up and running again, then you aren't too late to try repasting :)

    It's exceptionally hard to fry a card because they've got measures in place to avoid that.
     
    Anthony@MALIBAL, Sep 8, 2011
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    hows it going with your rma?
     
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