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    6990m, to wait or not to wait...

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by _Cheesy_, Jul 23, 2011.

  1. _Cheesy_

    _Cheesy_ Notebook Hoarder

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    How do you know what is the right decision? Isn't life all about enjoyment and living every moment of it, or is life about delay of gratification to get the best out there?

    How do you know if you should wait or not to wait? There are advantage and disadvantage of each. If you wait, you lose your enjoyment for weeks to have a future proof gaming notebook that make most other eat "Dirt" (one hell of a game i must say). If you buy now, you are living life to the fullest (without any worry or consequence of the future), but you do not have the best single gpu mobile notebook on the planet. So I ask all my friends on here, what is the RIGHT DECISION?

    Should it be:
    A. Drive yourself crazy in anticipation for the best single gpu notebook on the planet?
    B. Live life to the fullest and buy now without worrying about what the future is bringing, don't waste your youth like this!

    And to all those who are waiting, are you still waiting? Do you have some sort of games to play, cause I don't that why waiting is detromentive to my health.
     
  2. Aikimox

    Aikimox Weihenstephaner!

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    You don't have to wait for the best, the best is already here :) The 580M is pretty much on par with the 6990M, maybe even better in certain cases (tessellation, CUDA, Physx). The only real question is the price and personal preferences. ;)
     
  3. _Cheesy_

    _Cheesy_ Notebook Hoarder

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    I heard the 580m is not that much better than the 485m so therefore not worth the $200 dollar increase. However from research, it appear the 6990m is about 10 to 15% better than the 485m and could be around $120 dollar cheaper as well, which put the 6990m around $400 cheaper than the 580m.

    This would mean I could buy a Logitech Driving Force GT steering wheel, joystick, gaming headset, swiss backpack, and maybe a brand new CAR...jk about the car.
     
  4. vNaK

    vNaK Notebook Consultant

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    I didn't wait. I went for teh 485m and I'm happy. TBH, I gave up trying to get the latest and greatest out there. I actually settled on the 6970m and was happy, but I had to return the laptop due to too many problems. Now I have the 485m and I'm quite happy. Pretty excited to try out 3D too :)
     
  5. Aikimox

    Aikimox Weihenstephaner!

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    All true, and like I said, it's about price and personal preferences. The 580M & 6990M both are the top cards till Q1 2012.
     
  6. Larry@LPC-Digital

    Larry@LPC-Digital Company Representative

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    ^^^^What Aikimox said, this is true. :)
    _
     
  7. Kevin

    Kevin Egregious

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    It isn't that complex. If you can wait a few weeks, do it. If you can't, go with the 485M.

    The only bad decision would be choosing the overpriced GTX 580M.
     
  8. mrbogangles

    mrbogangles Notebook Enthusiast

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    Listen to your wallet. You Waited this long why not a few more weeks.
     
  9. pkhetan

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    If you are rich, go with the 580M now. If you are poor, wait for the 6990M :p
     
  10. nllptr

    nllptr Notebook Consultant

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    Here, I'll decide for you: Wait
     
  11. Aikimox

    Aikimox Weihenstephaner!

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    Lol, Tux invasion! Take cover, save Billy, hehe! :D
     
  12. chisox

    chisox Notebook Enthusiast

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    OP, for the love of god please buy your laptop TODAY so we no longer have to read your repetitive posts over and over and over and over and over...
     
  13. City.

    City. Notebook Evangelist

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    Well here's my 2cent. If you get it now with Either 580 or 6990 you'll be good for atleast another 6~7 months. Or you could wait that long and get the new gpus that SUPPOSEDLY improves performances by a long shot.
     
  14. Aikimox

    Aikimox Weihenstephaner!

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    ^^ Just to become obsolete in another 6 months :)

    The only way I could wait for a new gen is, -

    1) if it's only 1-3 months away

    AND

    2) it is a major platform update (for example, going from X58 to Sandy Bridge E)
     
  15. BenWah

    BenWah Notebook Consultant

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    I don't think anything faster is coming even in Q1.
    The roadmaps I saw show Q2
     
  16. Mr Najsman

    Mr Najsman Notebook Deity

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    It isnt within 3 months but isnt Kepler supposed to be a major update?
     
  17. _Cheesy_

    _Cheesy_ Notebook Hoarder

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    I think if I get the 6990m it will last me for a year because it not whether I have to have the best gpu, it about if I can play every game on Ultra setting with full AA and AF on 1080p. So if another gpu is better but doesn't really improve the gameplay, that does not bother me. Let say if you can play Metro 2055 on 80fps instead of 60fps, at that point it really wouldn't matter. I didn't opt for the HD 5870 for my desktop and opt for the HD 5850 and I'm more than perfectly content. Desktop graphic card are easier to decided because there is a bunch of them and it rather cheap to upgrade unlike the $900 to $1200 notebook graphic card. However the 485m can only do Crysis 2 on ultra at a bare 30fps while the 6990m can do it at around 35fps.

    Good Point but you have something to game on (notebook reseller :p ) and I don't which make the wait kind of pointless, but who know.
     
  18. TONYH900

    TONYH900 Notebook Enthusiast

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    I think you should stop making these threads. Stop spending so much time on the decision. In a year there will a new top King and the time you are spending on deciding between two almost identical cards can be spent playing/enjoying your games. Just my 2 cents. Either wait for the 6990m and save a couple dollars or get the 485m TODAY for only 145+ dollars (limited offer at Malibal) over the stock price. Don't get the 580m because its not much of an improvement over the 485m and its almost double the price. Try OriginPC, they got the 6990m upgrade for presale for like 209 dollars.
     
  19. Aikimox

    Aikimox Weihenstephaner!

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    Sandy Bridge E is coming to X7200 before Q1 :)

    Yes, but shortly after that AMD may have a cost effective and powerful answer and we continue the same route all over again with mild bumps every few months.

    Well, I had to get back to my old friend IBM ThinkPad R40 for 2,5 months before M18x was here. That was well worth the wait, IMHO. As for the reseller part, being a reseller doesn't necessarily mean you can afford every gaming notebook. I went for the M18x simply because it was 2k with the 6970M CF at that time, about 800-1000$ cheaper than a similarly equipped x7200 :(
     
  20. BenWah

    BenWah Notebook Consultant

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    Why are you talking about sandy bridge?

    Isn't this discussion about GPU?
     
  21. Caziban

    Caziban Notebook Enthusiast

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    Is it true that the 6990m is *barely* better than the 485m? And that the 580m is almost on par with it? I heard that the 580 and the 6990m swap being the better card in certain tests, and that the 485m is barely, barely, barely underneath those two.
     
  22. anthonyhm

    anthonyhm Notebook Guru

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    Cheesy, there seems to be a common theme between all of your posts. It seems that through all of this agony, THREE GPU's have been released. The 485, 580, and 6970. All of these were released within just enough time for me to reconsider my purchase BUT, the fact of the matter is, I don't regret dropping for the 485. It takes care of what is out right now, it will handle almost everything that will come out for the near future and with overclocking, will probably last me a full two years. Then I can look at upgrading because guess what, it's USER UPGRADABLE. That's what great about this. The more you agonize about it, the less time you'll actually spend with a laptop in front of you. Just pick one up, and make a decision because with any of the three I just mentioned, you'll be happy with.
     
  23. _Cheesy_

    _Cheesy_ Notebook Hoarder

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    You mean I can overclocked it to run Crysis 2 at around 34fps like the 580m stock?
     
  24. anthonyhm

    anthonyhm Notebook Guru

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    By all indications this should be true.
     
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    anthonyhm Notebook Guru

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    _Cheesy_ Notebook Hoarder

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    I hope your right.

    Thanks Anthonyhm, you been very helpful. I think I'll just get the 485m now and overclock it to the 580m stock. That look cool but Crysis 2 was run on 720p but it still look really good. If I don't get the 6990m by the 16th with me moving and all I won't get to play it until September, which defeat the purpose. Thanks once again
     
  27. anthonyhm

    anthonyhm Notebook Guru

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    That video also listed a 1080p fps of a little over 30. Just to let you know. It was in the description. ;)
     
  28. aduy

    aduy Keeping it cool since 93'

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    i can overclock my 485m all the way to 700mhz/1400 and 1800mhz on the memory, so it is more than capable of being overclocked, and i use these settings to play games all the time without crashes.
     
  29. _Cheesy_

    _Cheesy_ Notebook Hoarder

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    Why did you say you wanted to get the 6990m, it only a 10 to 15% more increase. So 35fps instead of 30fps
     
  30. anthonyhm

    anthonyhm Notebook Guru

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    Noooo aduy! I had him sold! :p
     
  31. _Cheesy_

    _Cheesy_ Notebook Hoarder

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    Lotus P150HM - MALIBAL

    Malibal still has the 6970 and it only 65 dollar upgrade, it about 230 cheaper than the 485m.

    What should I get?
     
  32. anthonyhm

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    Well Nvidia seems to be having more luck so far in the reliability department over the 6970 just from some things I've seen on the forum. I wouldn't let that be the deciding factor though. However, driver support is always something mentioned between the battle for the two brands. From what I've experienced Nvidia does offer slightly better driver support. If you don't plan on upgrading soon I'd go with the 485 still.
     
  33. _Cheesy_

    _Cheesy_ Notebook Hoarder

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    I'm going to get the 485m with the price match, hopefully Malibal reply soon, I can't wait!
     
  34. aduy

    aduy Keeping it cool since 93'

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    i think it was in this thread, and they will probably price match that gpu, just do it, do it, doit, dot, dt ,d.
     
  35. _Cheesy_

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    No luck so far, still waiting for their reply :(
     
  36. aduy

    aduy Keeping it cool since 93'

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    ok im just gonna say it, get the 485m and forget about everything else, theres no point in aggonizing over new cards, when you know the 485m is going to be really really good.
     
  37. _Cheesy_

    _Cheesy_ Notebook Hoarder

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    Yup I am I'm still waiting for Malibal to reply back with the $145 upgrade. I don't really want to deal with Ati at this point anymore, especially with their alien-ware deal only, which I thought was a good way to alienate more of their customer. I have a total of 5 Ati card and only one Nvidia card and I thought this was shady business on part by Ati.

    Do you think I should buy the notebook and wait for Malibal to contact me or just wait for him to contact me?
     
  38. aduy

    aduy Keeping it cool since 93'

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    contact him through the website or something
     
  39. _Cheesy_

    _Cheesy_ Notebook Hoarder

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    Send an email, but they are offline on weekend...fingercross
     
  40. pkhetan

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    LOL, I can't stop laughing at that :laugh: The man has joined this month only (July 2011) and he already has more than 500 posts :eek:
     
  41. _Cheesy_

    _Cheesy_ Notebook Hoarder

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    :err:
    :swoon:
     
  42. d2c

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    man thats a lot of posting for 1 month! :) also if u cant wait then dont worry about it, just dont look back after.
     
  43. cutegigi

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    thats the hard part. ;)
     
  44. _Cheesy_

    _Cheesy_ Notebook Hoarder

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    oh you guys know me so well :p