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    75hz panels OC'ed to 100hz, not all games support

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by tanzmeister, Oct 30, 2017.

  1. tanzmeister

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    hi! some games fail to recognize custom OC of the panel to 100hz, Is there a way to overcome this?
     
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    Drop the overclock on the panel. Try 95 Hz. If that fails, 90, etc.

    Just like overclocking a CPU, just because it's stable at some tasks, doesn't necessarily mean it's OK across the board.
     
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    Yeap i posted about this more than a year back. Each and every solution i tried, never worked.
    From what i gathered, it was because the particular refresh rather was not stored in the panels firmware or something.

    The overclock works fine in some games, but in game like CS-GO it never worked.
     
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    I've meant that games don't recognize the OC and just run at factory settings.
     
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    so even EDID injection in windows does not help?
     
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    Same problem with custom resolutions as refresh rate. Many, if not most, programs and games do not recognize the custom resolution. Even something as simple as Windows snipping tool does not recognize it for screen shots.
     
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    How did you do the OC, using GPU driver, or EDID override (CRU)? If you did using GPU driver, some games won't recognize it. Use CRU.
     
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    My overclocked refresh rate works in CS:GO. But only if I create the custom resolution using CRU. Doesn't work if done in the Nvidia Control Panel.
     
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    I have used NVIDIA Control Panel and CRU. Same end result for me. It seems to be less of a problem with the custom refresh rate and resolution using Windows 7 rather than Windows 10.
     
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    Depends on the game, if you can find details on it's ini file(s) there might be a hz setting for the game that it locks in on. Most games will recognize updated HZ setting, but some do need help - forced in the ini file.

    Are you OC'ing by setting a custom resolution in the Nvidia Control panel? That has the most success for being read by the game.
    For the longest time 60/45/30hz were the only options so older games need to have their ini files edited, you'll need specific game info for each game edit.

    Edit: This might help for some games:

    Posted by TimmyP
    I GOT IT! This probably will work for anyone.

    1. Get "Custom Resolution Utility" (CRU)
    2. Take note of your custom refresh settings and timings in Nvidia control panel
    3. In CRU: Under "detailed resolutions," and "standard resolutions" add your custom to both keeping it as close to nvidia settings as possible ("standard" you will just need your desired resolution and refresh rate, no need to touch "back porch" in "detailed").
    4. Restart.
    5. Your resolution with refresh rate should be there in game now.

    *Note I had to delete a resolution under "detailed" because I had no slots left (in CRU). Just remove a resolution you never use from "detailed" to get your custom slot open if you have none left.
    https://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20758416872
     
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    Ah yeah, I'm not using Windows 10. :p

    Edit: Could also be an Nvidia driver bug. Have run into a fair share of those over the years as it pertains to display tweaking.
     
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    That was probably the only thing that i didnt try, just hooked up my 144hz monitor soon after :p

    What resolution are you playing at?
    I tried CRU with a resolution like 1280x960 and it wouldn't stick.
     
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    1920x1080@100Hz, up from 1920x1080@60Hz.
     
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    Ah, well im one of the old skool 1280x960 peeps.
     
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    LOL. Then I'm sure you've seen this:



    The caster's narration had me in fits:

    "Does he see him? Does he see him? 4 by 3! 4 by 3!"

    :D
     
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    Yes, it certainly can. I have seen some NVIDIA driver versions that the custom resolution feature would not work at all.
     
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    You could try an older version of the driver to see if it makes any difference.
     
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    Use CRU to edit the default resolution of 1920x1080 @ 75hz to 1920x1080 @ 100hz, but keep in mind doing this will replace the 75hz option but should work with any game.
     
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    You could also keep the default and add a new detailed resolution @ 100Hz, and move it to first position on the list so that it becomes the native.
     
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    From my experience that doesn't always work for a lot of games or even windows. So if the 100hz is stable then I'd say just replace the 75hz and if things go bad, you can always load up safe mode and restore defaults in CRU.
     
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    Never had any issues with it myself. You have to reload the graphics driver, or reboot, to make the new resolution(s) show up after creating them.
     
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    How i can anyone forget that one haha!
    4:3 master race!
     
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    This time around I used the Nvidia driver to set the custom resolution to 100hz up from 60hz but before I had always used CRU to achieve the same result.

    Though not all games will natively support it and like @hmscott had mentioned, you'll likely need to dig into the .ini file for the individual game and look for the framerate setting.

    Like Mass Effect for instance had a Min/Max smooth framerate value iirc.
     
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    Same issue here on my MSI, hilariously my Clevo that runs optimus has no issues with any games on my custom refresh rates but my MSI which has the panel controlled by the NVIDIA card doesn't allow the custom refresh rate on some games :'D
     
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    Optimus was one other reason I didnt like my P157SMA, felt like there was input lag, could be any number of things but I went back to my m4600 until I got my hands on my current AW17 Ranger. Which has optimus as well, but I disabled it soon after...just less issues to deal with it seems but could be placebo
     
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    If anything my 95hz TN panel seem to have less inputlag than my 75hz IPS panel on the MSI.
     
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    Correct me if wrong but IPS isnt known for its speed correct? Thats something TN is better equipped for?
     
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    Exacly, IPS screens are also not very overclockable. When I tried to OC my 75hz IPS screen it would end at around 82hz, while my 60hz would get up to 98hz. IPS has better viewing angles tho.
     
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    There are AUO IPS and CHIMEI IPS 17.3" displays that for years have been successfully OC'd from 60hz/75hz to 100hz+, so it depends on the make / model. Sometimes you get lucky and sometimes not :)
     
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    I think i'm going for 3440x1440 for my next display, none of that happening thanks :D
     
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    Could you provide a specific model that can reach those numbers?
     
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    Look for the all the Asus laptops from G3 through current with 17.3" 60hz IPS displays, same for MSI 17.3" IPS displays. There are forums in MSI / Asus, and likely here with model numbers posted.

    I don't have the make / model numbers memorized any longer :)