7970m Logging Thread, Games with Utilization Issues (Only post logs, NO questions please)

Please post all games and information you have found while benching, ect.

Format

Graphics Card:

AMD Catalyst Driver Version:

Operating System:

Issue Details:

Games with under-utilization issue:

CPU Details:

Motherboard or System Make & Model:

Motherboard BIOS Version:

 

Arma II day z mod ran at about 25 fps constantly with only 83% gpu utilization.

 

installed BF3 to test it; what i saw was a constant under utilizzation GPU issue, either with ULTRA settings or with LOW, i can t go above 50-60% utilizzation and of course my FPS were ridiculously LOW, while on my old 6970 i could play at a constant 60 fps....

will install and test Crysis 2 as well soon.

 

Graphics Card:

AMD Radeon 7970M

AMD Catalyst Driver Version:

12.8 WHQL

Operating System:

Windows 7 Home Premium x64

Issue Details:

Playing The Secret World on maxed ultra settings: anywhere from 50-60% utilization and temps nearing 100C. Frames drop from 35 to about 22 or lower in detailed areas.

Diablo 3 on maxed settings: around 70% utilization and temps nearing 80C-85C. Frames are pretty consistently around 50-60.

World of Warcraft: Full details maxed out on 1080p, I'm getting around 20-40 FPS with utilization no higher than 49%. My old 5870m could get 50-60 FPS in the same areas I tested.

Will try some other games and update accordingly.

Games with under-utilization issue:

The Secret World, Diablo 3, World of Warcraft, Starcraft 2

CPU Details:

Core i7 3610QM

Motherboard or System Make & Model:

Clevo P170EM (Sager NP9170)

Motherboard BIOS Version:

1.0.0.7

 

Model: NP9150 (Clevo P15xEMx)
Operating system: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
Motherboard BIOS: American Megatrends Inc. 4.6.5 dated 06/18/2012
Processor: Intel i7-3610QM
AMD Driver: 8.951.6.0
Game: GTA IV (Steam 1.0.7 version, vanilla/not modded)
Settings: 1920x1080 resolution, all video settings on High (a couple Very High setting choices downright destroy my FPS, so I keep all at High with little loss in visual quality), AA on 4x, three slider bars at 50%, definition on, vsync off.

Issue: 7970m utilization hovers from 50% to 90%, but most of the time 65%-70%, even when FPS is far below 60. My FPS ranges from 30FPS to 60+FPS, but seems to average around 45FPS. Enduro/ZeroCore does not allow the 7970m to use more power when power is needed. I see high utilization and high FPS indoors, but in many places within the city I see usage drop. My CPU usage hovers around 50%-60%.

*EDIT* I concur with NeoCzar (post below); make sure to include more details in your posts. Try to post the videos and screen shots that you still may have stored that you included in your posts on the deleted feedback thread.

 

Hi ppl,
Like I posted in AMD's Forum, here it is:


Graphics Card:
HD7970M

AMD Catalyst Driver Version, and Driver History
At the moment 12.7 Official Beta, but also tried Clevo Stock drivers (12.5), 12.6 Official, 12.8 beta - All had similar results and no noticible improvements
+ 12.7 CAP2

Operating System:
Windows 7 Professional 64 Bit SP1 fully updated

Issue Details:
Probably due to Enduro tecnology the GPU doesn't increase or maintain the GPU % usage enough to keep the FPS stable. All the games at some point have 60 + fps then it strangely decreases to 40-20fps.

Examples:
Dirt 3 on ULTRA LOW (1920x1080)


Dirt 3 on HIGH (1920x1080)


Max Payne 3 on High, MSAA off, FXAA off, Tesselation off, AF 16x (1920x1080):


Prototype 2 on High (1920x1080) + High Overclock:



Games with under-utilization issue, until now:

Crysis 1, Crysis Warhead, Crysis 2, Batman Arkham City, Prototype 2, Dirt 3, Dirt Showdown, Saints Row The Third, Rage, MDK2 HD, Max Payne 3 (Directx 10, 10.1 & 11), Battlefield 3, Lineage 2, GTA 4

Games without issues: Metro 2033, Far Cry 2, Burnout Paradise, Syndicate, Max Payne 3 (only Directx 9)

Note: I tried different settings in CCC with no noticeable improvements

CPU Details:
Intel Ivy Bridge 3610QM (with HD4000)

Motherboard or System Make & Model:
CLEVO P150EM

Motherboard BIOS Version:
BIOS 1.00.04


Best Regards to all

 

Graphics Card

HD7970M

AMD Catalyst Driver Version, and Driver History

12.7 Official Beta

Operating System

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit, SP1

Issue Details

I have played the following games and had an issue with underutilization of the GPU. Crysis 1, Crysis 2, Stalker (the game runs fine, but with Vsync off it still doesn't use 99%), Batman Arkham City, World in Conflict.

Games without issues: Metro 2033.

All games are played with anti aliasing on, as well as VSYNC. Vsync doesn't work in some of the games, at all, even when on. There is screen tearing in every game regardless of Vsync settings. Graphics settings do not affect the card. You can turn down the graphics, the utilization will simply go lower, so essentially you cannot get 60 FPS in any games, except in older games that a 3 generations old card could run.

The main issue is the under-utilization of the card. When I look at an expansive scene in a game, the gpu throttles down. For example: In Crysis 2, I will be walking down a corridor and the game will use 90+% of the GPU, as soon as I walk outside into the city where there is a lot going on, the utilization drops to 60% and FPS drops accordingly (ALOT). I tested this, I would look at the ground, the GPU would slowly build up to 99% and stay there. I would then look up at a large scene, instantly utilization will drop to 60%. I repeated this test many times, and in Crysis 1, same problem.

Also, Metro 2033 works fine, except for screen tearing and Vsync doesn't work, even when I turn it on in the .cfg files. Considering this is a, "Terribly" optimised game, I'd say they obviously did something right.

CPU Details

Intel Ivy Bridge 3820QM

Display Device(s) and Connection(s) Used

Built in monitor, 90% NTSC Color gamut display, glossy.

Motherboard or System Make & Model

CLEVO P170EM

Motherboard BIOS Version

BIOS 1.00.05 (Not positive on this one)

System Memory Type & Amount

Kingston Hyper-X 1600mhz

Power Supply

Clevo 220v Auto-switching adapter (Normal laptop power supply)

Additional Hardware

Crucial M4 SSD 256GB, latest firmware.

Secondary, 7200 RPM Seagate

Additional Details

I have installed multiple different drivers, reinstalled windows, nothing works. I found the 12.7 Beta to be the best for me, as with all other driver versions I couldn't even complete the windows experience index test without it saying, "Incompatible GPU." (Paraphrasing). 12.7 I could, so I deemed it the best because of that.

 

since the clevo 7970m sucks with all bio/ec versions, all driver versions, all cpus and any hardware combination in em series, i just post my video.

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Graphics Card:
HD7970M

AMD Catalyst Driver Version:
12.7 BETA

Operating System:
Windows 7 Professional 64-bit

Issue Details:
In World of Warcraft, there are some zones where my fps will go bellow 30 (even saw 16 with some PvP action) while my video card utilization remains at 30-40% (in AfterBurner 2.2.3). Temps are fine remaining around 60-70 degrees celcius. In other zones, the GPU utilization goes up to anything between 50-70 and I get better fps (around 70). The worst zone I have seen this happen is Orgrimmar where the GPU does not go over 40% utilization and fps is around 30, sometimes dropping if too many animations need to be rendered.

Games with under-utilization issue:
I have only confirmed World of Warcraft myself.

CPU Details:
i7-3610QM

Motherboard or System Make & Model:
Sager NP9170

Motherboard BIOS Version:
1.0.0.7

I do not know how Enduro decides when the game needs more GPU utilization, but it does not seem to work all the time or at least not in all the zones.

 

Specifications: P170EM, 7970M, 3610QM, 8GB 1600, Samsung 830 256gb, KillerWireless 1102
AMD drivers: 8.951.6.0 (stock) CCC: 2012.0329.2312.39738
Bios and EC: 06
OS: Windows 7 64-bit (updated)

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Game affected: Battlefield 3 (updated), Maxed, no AA or Blur, no v-sync, Tested with multiplayer (64 players)

Fps and gpu utilization keep dropping. Screenshots:

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Game affected: Civilization 5 (updated), maxed, no v-sync

Very low fps at times (especially when moving the screen) accompanied with low gpu utilization. Screenshots:

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Tried using different CCC 3d settings to no avail. Also had FPS momentarily dropping below 30 in starcraft 1vs1 (ai).

 

Graphics Card:
HD 7970M

AMD Catalyst Driver Version:
12.6

Operating System:
Windows 7 x64

Issue Details:
Starcraft 2 for 15 minutes uses 40-60% GPU, peaking at 73% GPU, averaging 40-50 FPS on Extreme
Kombustor GPU Test with D3D 10/11 mode runs at 99% GPU @ 58 FPS
Kombustor GPU Test with D3D 9 mode runs at 79% @ 53 FPS
(Both tests done in 1280x720 windowed, GPU max temp 86 C)

Games with under-utilization issue:
Starcraft 2, will report back on Skyrim later

CPU Details: Intel 3610QM

Motherboard or System Make & Model: P150EM

Motherboard BIOS Version: 1.00.05

 

Graphics Card AMD 7970M

AMD Catalyst Driver Version: After reading the problems others are having....the one that Sager loaded on the laptop....device manager says 8.951.6.0

Operating System: Windows 7 Professional 64bit

Issue Details: Laptop only plays one game...Microsoft Flight Simulator FSX. In FSX graphics setting drop down box, the game only "sees" the Intel graphics. When playing the game MSI afterburner says the 7970M has 30% utilization. Because of this, I can't set AA and AF good enough for the game. The 7970M GPU fan doesn't even kick on.

Games with under-utilization issue: Microsoft FSX

CPU Details: i7 3820QM

Motherboard or System Make & Model: Clevo P9170EM shipped from Sager mid June 2012

Motherboard BIOS Version: I should have looked before I posted. Whatever locked bios comes stock with this laptop.

Note to OP....I registered just to post this information. I wish I had read this forum before buying this laptop. I hope your efforts can get this issue fixed and this laptop working to its advertised potential. Thank you for your efforts.

 

Guys by the way it has been mentioned by some official resellers and very knowledgeable members that expecting a 99% utilization is not possible with the new generations of VGA cards because some part of the card will power down depending, even under load, so we should perhaps judge by comparing to a reference AW performance instead of just the percentage of utilization.

 

I dont think that rumour is true, 7970m in a laptop that does not support enduro has 99% utilization almost all of the time. Why would enabling switchable output make a card behave differently whilst rendering? Labelling a newly found bug a "feature" is a very common strategy by many companies in IT / Tech industry.

 

Hello all,
I already made this post in the deleted logging thread , but since videos that were uploaded are still up and also pictures. I decided to post issues that are present on mi system again for Sager, amd and users to see what issues to be aware of and what issues need to be fixed.
Theres a new driver (12.8 WHQL) comming this week so hopefully at least somethings will be fixed.


My computer: P150EM , 7970m, i7-3610qm, RAM 8GB 1333MHz.(VORTEX 3)
BIOS revision : 1.00.04
EC Firmware revision : 1.00.04
Driver versions:


I'm running the combination of the recently released intel driver by sager and the 8.981 on top of the 8.982. I found that for me its the best performing driver and the 8.982RC1 wouldnt start CCC.

As for the games:
Battlefield 3
Graphics settings: see video
Issues: multiplayer( as ther's no problem in singleplayer)- on servers with 64 players online and biggger maps- utilization drops down.I can get good utilization when I have everything set to ultra preset, but in a middle of a gun fight I've get lower fps so I need to lower some settings. When I do so, I'll get lower utilization and the same fps. When I put everything on low I get simmiliar fps to Ultra preset. I still have A older MSI gx660r with a 5870m and i7-740qm so just out of curiosity I tried a bit of gameplay on it. So I played a bit on Strike at karkand an it was a crazy round with 64 players- Utilization never under 80% mostli around 90%.Keep in mind that BF3 multiplyaer is very CPU demanding and probably the 740qm hold it back. So I tried a smaller map(norshar kanals team dethamatch)with 32p- utilization mostly around 99%. Keep in mind that 740qm is much slower than 3610qm. The 3610qm shouldnt have any problem even at the most demanding maps. Actually it doesn't as I saw some gameplay on GTX680m.
Here Is a video of strike at karkand multiplayer. The gameplay isn't good as I didn't tried to play tactically, but tried to find explosions and a lot of stuff going on. At all it wasnt the worst intense round , when everybody is playing activelly the utilization drops even much lower.
At first it's on ultra than I changed it to medium at 2:10(at these settings We should get 60 fps constantly.)At 3:22 I changes settings to low.
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I even tried putting it down to 1280x720 everything low almost same fps and utilization drops down to 20%.
Here is a picture of Msi afterburner after gameplay

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Crysis 1
Graphics settings: see video
Issues:On certain areas I get utilization above 90%, but when I enter a wide open area with a lot of buildings utilization drops down to 50-60% abd also FPS.
Demonstrating video
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Here is a picture of Msi afterburner after gameplay

Click to enlarge

Crysis 2 -
version:
Issues 1.9 dx11 + hi-rez textures Utilization drops down to 60% somethimes in certain areas. Some areas are fine. Problem usually happens when I look into a open area wit a lot of soldiers and objects.
Gameplay video:
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Here is a picture of Msi afterburner after gameplay

Click to enlarge
Note that the 99% utilization at the beginning is throught loading screen.

Shift 2:Unleashed
settings : see video
Issues: Utilization around 60% max 70% but still playeble at around 40-50fps at daytime. Problem comes at nightime when all the shadows and lights cause the usage to drop to aroun 50% and fps in the middle of a grid are around 25-30 fps. When out of the racing grid its better.
This game should run 60 fps with no problem at whatever settings.
Gameplay video:
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Here is a picture of Msi afterburner after gameplay


Click to enlarge

There are actually two races on th egraph but I didnt upload the first one as I was crashing everywhere (dind't play it for a long time) The 99% utilization is throught the loading screen

GTA 4
version: 1.0.4.0 (sholud be the best performing version) usage ingame(not in buit in benchmark) around 50-60% and fps mostly above 30. It should play much better thoght it's a very CPU demanding title. however the game is porelly optimized so I dont think this is a good testing subject.
However heres a gaming video-just driving around.
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I also changed settings somewhere in the end.

Here is a picture of Msi afterburner after gameplay


Click to enlarge


Formula 1 2011
Settings everything maxed with 8xMSAA, 4xMSAA settings doesant make much of a impact on the fps
(ver.1.0.0.0) . This is where the problem is seriouslly present. Theres a build in benchmark( My f1/graphics) when everything set to max with 8xMSAA - 45-50% usage and 35fps avarege(min27). I lowered the MSAA to 4x and I had usage 38-45% and avarega 32 fps???- Also tried it on my MSI GX660 - on the same settings I had average 33fps.???(whne I lower MSAA I can get 50 fps no problem)
Here It should run 60 fps capped with all sorts of ubersampling on.
benchmark screen after test 8xMSAA


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benchmark screen after test 4xMSAA


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Here is a picture of Msi afterburner after gameplay


Click to enlarge
the benchmark parts of the graph are the ones from the right, in the middle theres the loading screen 99% utlization. dont know whats before(probably forgot to reset that graph.

Games I have played with no issues. :
Alan wake and Metro 2033, played perfectly with 99% usage all the time and perfect FPS. Also when I lowered settings I had better fps which doesant happen in other games.I Even played oveclocked 1050/1500 on metro for two hours-temps never abowe 90C-When it hit 90-fans kick in and coll down things to 87C.

Blur played also perfectly , usage was lower but I had v-sync on so it was capped at 60fps

Split second played also fine, had ussage around 99% but still when on very high settings, some massive explosion happend, ussage also droped down to 80% but just for a split second

Bare in mind that I tried to reinstall Os a few time, Installing the drivers with all sorts of combinations and the results were almost the same.

Hope this helps, and this enduro problem will be solved as soon as possible.

Keep up the good work sager/amd and deliver some working drivers

Thanks.

Btw guys you can consider +rep if you could Took me quite a while to upload and record everything.

 

Hi mahalsk,
Excellent feedback +REP Can you please do the same on the official AMD forum in the topic that was also created for this purpose? AMD Game Forums - The Clevo 7970M Enduro/under-utilization debacle.

Thank you,
Best Regards to all

 

Off course will do so tommorow. Also on the other forums that halawafu started threads

 

again, amazing post mahalsk. if i could rep you again i would. post it at rage3d forum, they seem to be doing their hardest to deny there is a problem at the moment.

 

CatalystMaker has tweated that they are investigating Enduro issues.

This is a step in the right direction get it solved.

 

Hi ppl,
caveman-jim made another important post in Rage3D topic - http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?t=33993055:

Source: Rage3D Discussion Area - View Single Post - 7970M Enduro Issue

I already posted my feedback, so that AMD finally sees it... I think that anyone that already posted here should copy paste and post there

Thank you,
Best Regards to all

 

Good stuff!

 

This is what I'm talking about. Got interested in trying out RaiderZ, from a TotalBiscuit review. RaiderZ looks to be DX9 to me, and yet I can't crank out decent framerate with a 7970M, the flagship, best AMD has to offer for mobile, 7870 desktop equivalent, nearly Ghz edition overclock on it...

Signature has all the stats. Bios/EC 1.00.05 for both. WHQL 12.6.

 

what the hell is this bull? go call your own AMD contacts if you don't like how I'm doing it.

 

jim, that was in no reference to your handling of it, but about @md_guy's posts. I must admit your help is seriously appreciated and I should probably remove my above comment.

 

You have done a great job in acting as an intermediary, and things have certainly moved forward. Please, keep up the good work !

 

How professional.

 

Was that truly necessary...You might have appreciated Jim's help if you still had a 7970m. Please don't hinder our chances of getting help.

 

Ah, I see. Thanks for the clarification. We're good.

I do this in my own time, unpaid, for people I don't know but have taken the time and initiative to reach out to me. Is that professional?

If you've got contacts at AMD to help get visibility, resolution, information on this problem, go ahead. Every little bit helps. If not, don't be part of the problem.

 

Like Montage said he's acting like an intermediary (a pretty good one), with no extra "gains" for him, so I think that the comment was unnecessary since that you're usually a user that also helps others without profit.
Let's all calm down and focus on the problem here, we need AMD to answer and help us solve this problem otherwise, some users will stay with a crippled GPU, some will trade it for GTX 680M, and most probably none of them will ever buy AMD again.

Since I already posted some feedback about this problem and I also announce that I'm willing to do tests if AMD needs "beta-testing" in some way.

Thank you,
Best Regards to all

 

CatalystCreator admitting there is an issue to Enduro, I have little doubt caveman-jim has had an impact on that. No one here at NBR has the influence or contacts at AMD as he does, why act ungrateful?

But I do agree there are some skeptics at Rage3D. But that's ok, as more and more affected users post there, just makes our case stronger as AMD no doubt has someone there monitoring that thread.

 

Nothing official to share but based on discussion I had today I am now certain that this issue is being treated as a high priority issue, and that the performance levels you're seeing are absolutely not what AMD intended. Hope to know more in the next few days, hopefully something official. I think we're making progress guys - thanks for your contributions and info!

 

Thank you for your work; I appreciate it

 

No, THANK YOU! I was very close to returning mine, now I don't feel the need.

 

Thank you very much caveman-jim!I cannot express how much I appreciate your contribution in this matter. Like most posters in this thread, I recently bought p170em with 7970M and am experiencing frustrating problems with this enduro issue. I was even starting to think about shipping the laptop back, but your help and support brings me hope and I will wait.

If it can help, I am using the stock drivers coming with the laptop (I have also tried 12.7 beta drivers with no difference) and am experiencing the underutilization issue in World of Warcraft and Call of Duty: Black Ops single player campaign in certain zones (multiplayer seems to run fine for some reason). The only game I found to fully utilize the full power of this beast is Metro 2033 in which I can get high fps (around 40-50) on highest settings!

As far as benchmarks goes, I got a very satisfying P6286 3dmark11 score so I don't think its a problem with the hardware ... but I get 20 fps in the city Orgrimmar in World of Warcraft (at around 30-35% GPU utilization). In certain zones, everything plays fine and I get over 100 fps sometimes! but even then, the GPU pretty much never goes over 60-70% utilization. This is with all settings maxed out except anti-aliasing at 4x I think. (no v-sync) what bugs me is that even if I lower the settings, it does not make much difference in fps. It helps, but the utilization also drops so its not a big increase in framerate.

On a sidenote; anyone have any idea how this user gets to see 99% utilization all the time on his p170em laptop with 7970m? I stumbled upon his videos and I am amazed how games run fine for him and not for most other p170em owners.

Youtube: /user/wvo0ovw/videos

Best regards to all,

Doryn

 

Actually he doesn't get 99% utilization all the time. In the video titled, "Battlefield 3 MultiPlayer Maxed Out - HD 7970M on Clevo P170EM", you'll see utilization drop, starting around the 35 sec mark. It seems like when there's more to render, usage drops. I experience the same thing in that map too.

In Operation 925 BF3 Close Quarters, full 64 player server, all settings maxed with 2x deferred AA, vsync off and motion blur disabled, usage will dip into the 80's and even <70's in what appears to be a graphically intense part of the map because of what's being rendered and the fact that this particular area is simply one of the major choke points of the map. That would be flag point A, especially around the staircase and desk/cubicle area.

In single player BF3, usage hovers around 99% in Operation Swordfish, BUT, I'll see utilization drop in the firefight after you trace the wire to the basement. Again, the busier it is, usage drops.

In Crysis 2 single player, if I'm staring at a wall or at the ground, or if the scene isn't stressing the gpu, usage is pegged at or around 99%, but as soon as I get into a firefight, in wide open areas, or in complex scenes usage drops. I would think usage should go up if anything.

Running Kombuster from Afterburner (the K button, left side), I get 83% usage and stays there.

Running 12.7 beta on top of stock Clevo drivers.

Interesting read: Rage3D.com : AMD PowerXpress 4.0 & Interview with AMD's Asif Rehman [ AMD PowerXpress 4.0 & Interview with AMD's Asif Rehman ]

On a side note, not sure if this plays into the whole issue, but PowerPlay is broken. If you uncheck the "Enable PowerPlay" check box in Catalyst Control Center, and hit apply, then fire up a 3D app or game the 7970m will not be used at all. I think this was mentioned some where in this forum in the past, but I'll bring it up again anyway in this thread. Try it and run Kombuster.

 

I can get 99% in caspian border map too. Its certain maps / certain parts of some maps that seem to trigger the issue.
His next video in on a different map and you can see his utilization drop there:

Battlefield 3 MultiPlayer Maxed Out - HD 7970M on Clevo P170EM - YouTube

 

Actually I still have my 7970M and I'm still hopeful for a fix although as I have stated previously I very much doubt one is coming.

AMD are working on the problem, we have had notification of this from Marc at AMD so what more does anyone else need?

 

Perhaps someone who is a "civilian" enthusiast and connected to the industry at the same time, who can relay an alarming image of how AMD's flagship mobility card is doing at the moment with the Clevo community. Just saying, every little bit helps.

 

Each to his own.

 

Doesn't change the fact that you were offhand and rude...

 

Calling someone unprofessional is not rude or offhand, it was completely justified.

There was absolutely no need for him to come here and with only his second post write what he did like he was god almighty.

My last comment on the matter.

 

It was a misunderstanding... he thought somebody else was bad mouthing him when they weren't. For you to then sarcastically say 'how professional', this doesn't really help our cause with getting things fixed. This is aside from the fact that what you said wasn't necessary due to him not actually 'professionally' helping us. He is an enthusiast who is going out of his way to help us users with the 7970m. Maybe don't be so quick to judge...

 

Catalyst 12.8 seems to be released: AMD Catalyst 12.8 (8.982.0 July 27) AMD Official WHQL - Guru3D.com Forums
If anyone gets the time to test it today please let us know if it solves under-utilization =)

 

No it is not justified. He does not get paid. PROFESSIONALS GET PAID. He used his own time to help out the community.

It was a misunderstanding between CavemanJim and ArticJoe, and it was resolved. You don't have to jump in and make things worse.

If you are happy with one single update from Marc at AMD, good for you. Other people appreciate more updates. You are the one acting like god almighty and think everyone should totally satisfied like you with one single update.

Yes, your last comment on the matter..... AND KEEP IT THAT WAY.

 

Ok I just tried Catalyst 12.8 WHQL. I still see underutilization in world of warcraft (only game I tested with 12.8 at this time). Its weird, I see higher utilization than with stock sager drivers but around the same fps. Here are a couple screenshots:
#1: http://i.imgur.com/Q1Oyi.jpg
#2 (same place as #1 but facing another direction): http://i.imgur.com/nUQZZ.jpg
#3 (dalaran): http://i.imgur.com/zW2gR.jpg
#4 (orgrimmar ...): http://i.imgur.com/jCZBC.jpg

Edit: Overclocking does not help much: http://i.imgur.com/zrdXT.jpg
Edit #2: Here is a screenshot of the same place without overclock using the stock sager drivers: http://i.imgur.com/aY94x.jpg
As you can see, the framerate is higher and the GPU usage is lower ... which is weird.

 

That's not surprising. WHQL drivers take about 2 weeks to be certified by MS. As can see, these are dated July 27, well before AMD made it known they are investigating this issue.

 

hulawafu77 and others . I seen a video with p17em getting 50-6fps and he posted in video description that he followed this post :

http://forum.notebookreview.com/gam...ve-amd-nvidia-drivers-using-clean-method.html

now i know i have clean drivers. but these steps i was missing so i did them:

ADDITIONAL TWEAKS POST INSTALLATION WINDOWS


and specifically
ADDITIONAL TWEAKS POST INSTALLATION (AMD):
where you have disable ULPS


and now i am getting 40-60 fps in bf3 multilayer maps. could anybody or you do the same and report ?

 

i was referring to this video that i seen . by the way arcticjoe, thanks for your video and i followed the link you posted in description , it seems that i am getting much better fps 40-60

 

that video was by the same guy who did caspian border map clip. I was just saying that although his utilization was good on caspian border, you can see in his next video that he still has the problem where his utilization drops bellow 70% sometimes.

 

So are these drivers worth trying?