7970m dead, can I still use integrated graphics? (p150em)

Hey guys, so my 7970m ginally gave up the ghost after 3 years, unfortunately can't afford a new laptop for a couple of months so I'm stuck with my this laptop for a while, I was wondering whether it's posssible to to just keep the dead gpu in the laptop and run solely off my integrated gpu isntead, I've tried running a few games with it but it seems to be crashing alot even if I uninstall the gpu driver completely and edit the windows driver policy so it cant install again

 

Use DDU, disable the card, and use the integrated one. This is what I'm doing.

 

I tried that but I still keep getting crashes and bluescreens

 

Is it a very demanding game? Maybe the Intel card can't handle it? Try updating the Intel drivers.

I can tell you it is possible, because my 7970m also died and I'm playing a not so demanding game (Europa Universalis IV), and runs in low quality settings, with some stutters, but runs.

 

I have exactly the same situation: a dead 7970m and I'm staying with integrated graphics for some time untli I buy a new laptop. You have to sweep both drivers and then install a proper Intel HD 4000 driver (I've downloaded the last version from Intel site). 7970m will be either undetected or detected as an unknown GPU with a question mark. Any bluescreen is a sign of driver problems.

 

I mainly play dota 2 which I play on low and gets me a solid 60 fps but it doesn't just crash in dota, it crashes when watching videos and sometimes just browsing the web so it's not just crashing when I push it, it crashes randomly, I also have the latest Intel drivers, all this leads me to believe the dead graphics card is still affecting my laptop somehow

 

I've sweeped both drivers with DDU and installed the HD4000 drivers with the latest Intel drivers from the Intel site, Ive tried uninstalling and disabling the 7970m and even stopping windows installing the standard microsoft drivers so that the 7970m only comes with video controller in the device manager and still my laptop keeps crashing

 

What do those crashes look like and what text do your blue screens show? It seems your GPU is not the only problem you have (and are you sure it is really dead?)

 

You could rip the vBIOS chip of the MXM board. That way it can no longer interfere with Windows.
The temperature signal that the system requires to not thermal shutdown is vBIOS independent and comes directly from the internal temp sensor.

 

haha thats ghetto @Prema, i like it

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Tested and proven.

 

I'm sure the gpu is dead, I was playing a game when my latpop blue screened with "THREAD_STUCK_IN_DEVICE_DRIVER" after that when I tried to boot up my laptop it wouldn't get past the windows loading screen without uninstalling the AMD drivers when I tried to reinstall the drivers the laptop would just blue screen again, I tried this with multiple drivers. I tried baking my card to no avail

As to the blue screens I'm getting now they're mainly "DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL" blue screens but they vary sometimes it says thing like "BAD_POOL_CALLER" or "MEMORY_MANAGEMENT". I dont have the actual miniidumps as my laptop doesn't record the blue screens for some reason (not sure if there's a way to make windows save them?)

I checked my RAM and that's fine and these blue screens only started appearing after my 7970m died so I think it has to have somthing to do with the gpu, when it crashes on my browser it always says my integrated graphics is the cause

 

Honestly that sounds pretty tempting at this point although I'm guesing I'd have to replace the whole motherboard if I wanted to stick in a new gpu in the laptop at a later date? I don't think the laptop would be worth much to any one if I sold it in it's current state

 

It doesn't harm the motherboard, I was running an EM system win an MXM card without vBIOS chip for months without a problem.

Just make sure to only desolder the vBIOS chip on the broken cards MXM board.

 

Sweet, looks like time to break out the old soldering iron

 

I think you should probably upload some pictures, I bet people here would like to see them.

 

+1 for pictures!

 

Wait, wait, thread stuck in device driver is a problem I got when I upgraded to windows 10, if you upgraded recently this may be the cause and it is fixable, do not destroy the card until you confirm me this @_@

 

I didn't upgrade to windows 10, I was just playing a game and it blue screened

 

As for taking off the vbios chip I woud be up for doing it although I'm not even sure where it is lol. Can anyone give me a rough guide on what I need to do?

My soldering iron is at my parents house, I can probably do it this weekend if I find it.

 

Guys my laptop is still giving me blue screens but I'm not seeing any minidump files, does anyone know how I can get my laptop to save minidump files for the blue ssscreens so I can decipher what exactly is causing them?

 

Note the tiny surface mount parts around it, be careful

 

Ok guys so I went ahead and took off the vbios chip, (apologies for the delay) I haven't had the time to use my laptop for a couple of weeks. It all went pretty smoothly and only took about 20 mins altogether. The good news is he lapop still turns on fine and doesn't beep unfortunately I still seem to be getting blue screens and even though the lapop works fine for the most part it still turns off when playing games or waching video so I'm not sure I can wholeheartedly recommend doing this myself, although you might get a better outcome. Nevertheless here are some pics

 

The chip (small black one at the top)


My iron was a little too big so I had to be careful


Once melted I could peel the chip off the board


Chip fully off


Hope these pics are ok guys, I took them with my phone so they may not be the best

 

nice, good job! this way ull at least be able to turn on the machine and use it, albeit with frequent saves in order to avoid data loss@bsods

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Yeah and tbh it mainly just bsods when I try to game on in it, I can keep it just as a web browsing machine until I get something else

 

the bsods could be caused by the switching mechanism, the system / gpu driver trying to access the dgpu, which, of course, is now disabled. so try and force all 3d applications to the igpu through the catalyst control center, see if that helps.
besides, moot point to really do any "gaming" on the igpu anyways...

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I don't think that's the issue as I don't even have the 7970m driver insalled any more, when the card failed I had to uninstall the 7970m driver just to get the laptop to boot into windows. I tried insalling a bunch of amd drivers but they all failed on the install, now I just have the 7970m disbaled in my device manager

 

Thinking about it sometimes the 7970m will disappear completely from the device manager then I'll restart or even just leave the laptop for a bit and it'll reapper again. (still disabled) Is it possible the laptop is losing connection of the 7970m then finding it again due to the lack of the vbios chip?

 

could very well be the case. its anyone's guess how the machine / the os will treat the card once the vbios chip is removed...

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Hey eriannmax, i have been suffering with the exact thread_stuck_in_device BSOD error since last week. I have upgraded to windows 10 and can't install any AMD DRIVERS since I attempted installing crimson drivers. I have an alienware m17xr4 sporting a 7970m. Please help me out of this mess, wil be forever grateful!

 

Hey eriannmax, i have been suffering with the exact thread_stuck_in_device BSOD error since last week. I have upgraded to windows 10 and can't install any AMD DRIVERS since I attempted installingcrimson drivers. I have an alienware m17xr4 sporting a 7970m. Please help me out of this mess, wil be forever grateful!

 

Mehdi, you should uninstall the drivers you have using 3D Guru's DDU. You can do that in safe mode. Once you done that the version I know that works in Win 10 is the 15.6 Beta version from June from AMD.

 

Thank you for the response. I did attempt installing the 15.6 beta, as you suggested, and surprisingly the driver installation completed without interruption /freeze/bsod etc. But perhaps I was hoping for too much; upon the required restart I was confronted with 4 varying scenarios:
1. Blank black screen after the initial BIOS load,
2. BSOD with Kernel security check failure,
3. BSOD with irql_not_less_or_equal
4. BSOD with system_service_exception
So, whereas the 7970M got activated for the first time for me in a week, it was impossible to get back into windows after the restart. :-(

 

Then I'm at a loss, before my card died (for non related issues) this driver worked perfectly for me :/

 

I have p150em i7-3720m and gtx670 but my graphic card gtx670 burned. I want to use without graphic card but 20-25 second still beep beep sound then shutdown. (I found video in youtube same problem ).
Can I use without graphic card?

 

nope, u need to have a physical mxm card installed for the laptop to be used.

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Do you think there are problems my motherboard or other component ? Because I want to use new gtx670m card, does it damage to new card ?

 

hard to say, since i have no idea what exactly is wrong with your machine. if it was just the gpu that was fried, a new one should work without a hitch. if anything else is also defective, such as the mobo, ram, cpu, psu, etc. ull still encounter issues even with the new gpu installed. trial and error, i guess!

 

Diagnosing that for sure is extremely difficult, it's rare but it can happen.