8700K temps in Clevo P7xTM1's

I've got the Sager NP9175 (CLEVO P775TM-G) with a 8700 (not K) with a GTX 1080.
I generally hover around 46C (CPU) at idle, oddly enough when gaming it really hasn't gone any higher than 60C.
GPU is another story. I've seen to reach 75C, but that's for another topic.

I've been using ThrottleStop to undervolt my CPU. A stable undervolt for me was -75.2mV. I've had zero issues with my system so far. Originally I was planning to take it apart and apply new thermal paste to it, even though I had ordered IC Diamond Thermal paste from Sager. But seeing these temps, I think I'll leave it alone for now.

Perhaps my temps are better simply because it's a 8700. But in any case I thought I would share my experience with my new system.

 

The 8700 certainly does run a bit cooler than its unlocked counterpart. Nice temps, @DrawingDrag0ns

 

That's awesome! thank you for sharing your experience. What is your "power options" set on, to achieve these temps you have stated please?
For example: Quiet, power saving, performance, entertainment, or other power options through Windows itself.

 

Here's my new p751TM-1 with 8700k. How do you see this temps (considering its delidded, lapped and undervolted)?
With XTU like in the first post its around 72-76º

 

Seems fine to me, I assume your performance in regular tasks is good?

 

Yes, that was before any real test.
Played over 4h The Withcer 3 nearly all ultra (lowered a bit the grass) to get 70-80 fps and never lower than 60 fps and the temps in both CPU and GPU were never gigher than 70-75º. Very happy with those!

 

What are your settings in thorttlestop? My chip seems to be pretty good with an undervolt, but I keep running into a VR Current throttle and cant seem to figure out how to fix it in TS. Could you post all your settings? Thanks.

 

So, I just ran Assassin's Creed: Origins. Is it normal for the CPU Package to be maxed at 96°C during the menu? Cores were at 91°C while the GPU was at 86°C as well. This is with a delidded CPU with LM.

 

they actually made it better, 2 things:

1st. they have separated GPU and CPU cooling

2nd. If you look at the p775dm3 heatsink closely, you will find that the central(most important) pipe that connects gpu and cpu HS only goes halfway to the grills, meaning the heat is just bouncing between CPU and GPU. it's really great to see they have fixed this issue.
maybe they have introduced this imperfection in dm3 to have it fixed later? "look, we can do better" lol

 

does it still have problems with the gap between die and HS on GPU? that could be the problem. btw, you can seriously DW the 1080 to reduce the temps.

 

better go for the p870tm with vacuum chamber if noise is your concern.

 

You say delidded with LM. What is used between IHS and Heatsink? I would check there and check how heatsink fits on IHS (unified HS design). And don’t forget you have a small laptop chassis (15,6”).

 

Menus if uncapped can run at 1000s of FPS and consume huge amounts of CPU.

 

I haven't really taken off the heatsink as I don't have a replacement thermal pad/LM right now. It's basically the best option that HIDevolution has to offer.

I thought about this as well. I should try to actually play it for once. I don't have a lot of time right now as I am on vacation. I'll update you all once I do so.

OT: RIvaTuner doesn't work with the game. Is there any way to circumvent this as I would like to see how the laptop performs while playing?

 

I don't have AC:O but on games that not output RTSS or similar I use a little tricky method, by aida64's "sensorPanel"on your smartphone (or a 2nd screen attached to laptop, only for show monitoring info).

 

You can also use Hwinfo - latest version. Tick the box Always on top (if raw hardware data is what you want).

 

In game like "Destiny 2" it will never get on top so the workaround

 

DX12 is much harder to frame readout if that's what they are using.

 

Sorry for the late reply.
I've currently got the system set to "Entertainment" mode with the fan profile set to AUTO.
Interesting note on the fan profile : I used to have it set to "CUSTOM" and had the fans running at 55%. However, I discovered something pretty amazing with this system.
If you couple this NP9175 with a Cooler Master NotePal X3 Notebook Cooler, my idle temps dropped from ~45C to 31C!!! Normally I expect notebook coolers to drop the temps by *maybe* 2C. So to say I was surprised is an understatement.

Now with this cooler, I set it back to AUTO. While playing The Witcher 3, my temps on the CPU are around 55C and GPU is about 65C. When playing less demanding games such as WoW, my internal fans don't even turn on. The cooler does all the work - and this thing is damn quiet too.

My power settings :
As mentioned previously, my CPU is undervolted using ThrottleStop at around 75mV. This undervolt seems to have dropped my CPU temps by about 4C. Not bad!

I've got the Windows power profile set to a custom version of " Balanced" - Note that Windows "High Performance" Preset has been known to cause horrendous issues and I would never trust using that preset. In my custom profile, I kept pretty much everything the same except I changed the max CPU power from 100% to 97%. (cause I tend to baby my computers).

My NVIDIA GPU power profile is set to " Adaptive". Note that I HIGHLY recommend that you NEVER use the "optimal" preset for your GPU. That preset is equally as troublesome as the Windows "High Performance" preset. If you have both of those enabled at the same time, you're just asking for trouble, haha!

Overall I'm extremely happy with this notebook, and really glad I chose to go with an 8700 instead of an 8700k (I have no need for it. I just game, stream, and render videos). From what other users are posting, it sounds like the 8700k is significantly hotter than the 8700.

 

What is what you find so troublesome with Windows "High Performance" power plan? And you cripple the performance when you prefer CPU power from 100% to 97%.

 

To be honest, I'm not entirely sure what exactly causes issues within that preset - I just know to avoid it. I'm a tech support agent at a fairly established Custom PC store (check my profile info )
I've seen time and time again where other users have various issues where their wifi cards, USB ports, and HDMI ports (amongst various other display-related issues). 9/10 of the time disabling High Performance mode eliminates these issues. I've never really bothered to look into WHY it causes these issues. I just know to avoid it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

Yeah cooling pads are quite nice for notebooks with decent ventilation holes on the bottom, they can decrease the temps quite greatly.
Since you do gaming and apparently stream + render videos, do you have a couple of vids about your performance in games?

 

Small amounts of extra airflow can make a big difference at idle where the fans have spun down.

 

Not only idle, the P1xx series get around -20c on max temps as well. Airflow is making a huge difference on some notebooks overall.

 

That's just how physics works at the end of the day. Active cooling makes a huge difference but people don't want the noise of the main fan all of the time.

 

Hey im one of those ppl that silence is major priority. Would say adding a cooling pad modded with a ultra quiet 120mm aftermarket noctua fan provide more silence? Thinking if can keep it cool enough than will keep from spinning up the laptops fans which can get loud under load

 

Yes it can help it stop spinning up

 

That is so true on the latest models from the last year especially. Not just 8th gen, but 6th and 7th too.

 

It's because people are pushing to have idle as quiet as possible.

 

They offer liquid metal, kryonaut, or regular thermal gel.

 

Exactly. What's used between Die and IHS will determine how low temp you are able to get.

 

Though the variation with a good paste will be much lower than stock non de-lid.

 

or we should try bare die but will worry about making actual contact.

 

You need to play around with the socket to do that and it's not even worth it.

 

I've thought about removing the bottom and placing the machine on a giant copper plate, or something along those lines.

Before buying this, I was planning to make a tiny machine with a nice BeQuiet cooler... hopefully it doesn't get too loud with my load.

 

Without standards then you don't tend to get 3rd party options. However with standards notebooks would all be identical.

 

@Meaker@Sager @Prema @bloodhawk any pointers on setting a under volt and clock/temp settings I should see on this machine with a normal non delided 8086k

 

Set 4.7Ghz and a -50mv undervolt. Keep testing and lowering.

 

I have a p750tm1 and the fans sound like a vacuum cleaner when I'm plugged in and gaming BUT they are near silent when gaming on battery.

Is there a way I can force this laptop to just use the same power settings on battery but when plugged in?

I noticed in windows control panel in the advanced power options that the 'maximum processor state' under 'processor power management' was 100% 'plugged in' and 50% 'on battery' but there was no change in fan noise when I changed plugged in to 50%

I've also tried undervolting to -0.135V with Intel XTU and turning off turbo boost but with no fan noise change. XTU somehow reverts my undervolt back to the default after a few days but at least turbo boost remains disabled.

 

You could use the low power states in windows and the nvidia control panel.