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    8800M GTX of D901C not compatible with M570RU??

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by oile, Jan 15, 2009.

  1. oile

    oile Notebook Evangelist

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    Hi all,
    If I have this 8800M GTX coming from D901C [​IMG] [​IMG]

    Can I use it with M570RU? My actual card hasn't that aluminium "sticker" and if you notice there are 4 screw holes around the chip that I could not use with my copper box because they are reduced in size with an "adaptator" that I don't know if can be removed..
    Help!
     
  2. ichime

    ichime Notebook Elder

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    I think it should work.

    Edit: I see what you mean with the copper box and the adaptor. Have you tried peeling of the thermal conductive shield and gently pushing the socket out?

    If of any interest, this is how the card looks without the adapter or the copper cover:

    http://www.xoticpc.com/8800m-installation-guide-sager-notebook-np579x-a-41.html
     
  3. Bluemercury

    Bluemercury Notebook Evangelist

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    Are you interested in selling that 8800m Gtx for my clevo m860tu??? :p
     
  4. oile

    oile Notebook Evangelist

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    @Bluemercury. a Clevo reseller said me that is not possible to mount it in M860TU..

    @ichime. I know that page very well but I think that aluminium shield is like soldered, so detach that would cause detach components...the problem is: is necessary to do this and most of all those 4 holes are necessary or the 2 big holes (+ the one in the copper case) will be enough to mantain fixed the card??
     
  5. Johnksss

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    do you have a picture of the inside of your machine along with the card inside and out of the machine....
     
  6. Bluemercury

    Bluemercury Notebook Evangelist

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    But the first clevo m860tu were released with the 8800m Gtx, unless of course its different from the one of released with the m860tu.
     
  7. Johnksss

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    i see ya bluemercury...bidding on that fresh 8800m gtx are ya! :D
     
  8. theriko

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    The alu shield should not be soldered, you should be able to carefully peel it off to see if the adaptor can be removed
     
  9. oile

    oile Notebook Evangelist

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    I haven't the card yet..however in the xoticpc link there is all, especially the 4th photo!

    @theriko. Have you ever experienced it?

    Thanks for the support to everyone who helps!
     
  10. Bluemercury

    Bluemercury Notebook Evangelist

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    The fact that he said it was not compatible with the m860tu is worrying me....im on the verge to buy one 8800m Gtx here in Portugal but i dont know if it will work.....:S
     
  11. oile

    oile Notebook Evangelist

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    @bluemercury. My CLevo reseller said that 9800M GT (8800M GTX) used in M86TU are smaller but I don't trust them very much..call your reseller!
     
  12. Johnksss

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    not the new card, but your original card in your machine. we are all trying to understand why you think it wont fit since that is a M570RU/5792 in the picture at xotic and isn't that the same machine you have there?
     
  13. oile

    oile Notebook Evangelist

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    The images of xotic pc are exactly same of my machine!
     
  14. Johnksss

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    well then...no worries my friend..it will fit then. you have to really look at the screw patterns on it and it will start to make more sense. and the screw holes you will use are the ones mainly hiding behind that black ribbon cable. and the one marked number 5. it's not how tight it's bolted to the motherboard. those screws are to keep the card from moving is all.
     
  15. eleron911

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    I thought the whole heatsink assembly is different...na ?
     
  16. Johnksss

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    could very well be eleron, but the card itself is what matters, right? since that's all he is using. that and his own heat sink.
     
  17. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    the heatsink assembly is different and required for each Clevo model (M570RU/TU, M860TU, D901C)

    the videocard modules should be compatible to all the models though.... especially if its a 8800M GTX which is supported in the current BIOS's of the current Clevo notebooks.

    so the card will work, make sure you have the proper heatsink/pipe kit for the particular notebook.
     
  18. oile

    oile Notebook Evangelist

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    But I cannot use those 4 holes around the chip!
    In clevo D901C they are used with "adaptator" to make the hole smaller, and they don't reach the rear of the card (aluminium covers them..how to make a hole?) only 2 holes are available to catch rear-card-front-pc case and one in the upper part that catches rear-front-pc case !
     
  19. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    went over it here:
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=340955

    here is the bare card, which is standard (without heatsink or mounts):
    [​IMG]

    if it looks like that, you should be able to mount it into a M860TU videocard heatsink enclosure/kit and it should fit and work.
     
  20. Johnksss

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    how do you know this? have you taken yours apart? im lost here...
     
  21. oile

    oile Notebook Evangelist

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    The problem are the 4 holes around the chip!! look and compare the general photo of 8800M GTX posted by gohn and the photo I posted initially!!
    They are "reduced" from the original bigger size that M570RU needs! How to remove the "reducer"? it is necessary to make a hole in the aluminium shiedl?
     
  22. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    the 4 holes are a part of the back plate.... you can free up the four holes by removing the plate.

    its like a desktop CPU heatsink mount that comes out from the bottom of the motherboard with 4 holes that you mount the main CPU heatsink on top.
     
  23. oile

    oile Notebook Evangelist

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    but is it possible to remove the plate??
    Is it soldered? so have you had experience like this maybe with a 7950GTX??
     
  24. Johnksss

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  25. Gophn

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    I doubt the back plate is soldered onto the card... probably just double-sided tape or some other adhesive.
     
  26. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    here is what the back should look like:
    [​IMG]

    pic ripped from M570RU module.... same modules for D901C (notice the SLI bridge connector).
     
  27. Johnksss

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    im guessing those are "feet" for what ever machine it was originally fitted for.
     
  28. oile

    oile Notebook Evangelist

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    It is taken from a D901C..
    How exactly can they be removed? however yes, this what I was meaning!
     
  29. Johnksss

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    those little silver colored things either screw off or they push through. i never really took apart my heat sinks yet.
    as for he silver backing. it's like a heat shield since when sitting in a d901c the heat sink is mainly on top of the card itself. you can peal it off to one side and remove the center piece.

    edit: gophn, go head and take yours apart for verification...lol...j/k!~

    edit: it is also quite possible that it will just fit as is...(very wide speculation on this)
     
  30. oile

    oile Notebook Evangelist

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    my english is not so good.. can you explain what you said more simply ?
    thx
     
  31. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    ^^ like said before.

    try peeling it off the back of the card... carefully of course.
     
  32. oile

    oile Notebook Evangelist

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    So in your opinion it can be done without breakin anything?
     
  33. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    I believe so, yes.
     
  34. oile

    oile Notebook Evangelist

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    and can a 8800M GTX coming from my M570RU fit in a M860TU??
     
  35. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    yes.... still the same videocard module.

    just need to use the proper heatsink caging/kit for the M860TU.
     
  36. oile

    oile Notebook Evangelist

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    Anyone has photos of M860TU cooling system opened??
     
  37. zfactor

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    the card is the same for all three models. the only difference is the copper casing and heatsink / fan assembly. the physical card is exactly the same thing
     
  38. oile

    oile Notebook Evangelist

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    So..bad news..
    My friend said that he removed the aluminium shield without breaking anything but in the rear there is a metal plate like this in the photo and the M570RU heatsink has ,in inner part of it, 4 little swellings (screw cases) that make the card unable to be used with it.. any help??
     

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    need to see the other side up close just like that picture you have there.
    and looking at that plate, it looks to be the exact same height as the the memory chips on it. which would also put it high enough to sit in the mxm slot with out touching the base of the laptop. (speculation of course)

    edit: and what is that card?
     
  40. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    can that metal square plate also be peeled/removed.... it looks to be adhered to the card.
     
  41. Johnksss

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    ask them to take the card apart for you before shipping. if you have to pay extra, then do so.... seems like your best bet.
     
  42. oile

    oile Notebook Evangelist

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    Is it a question?
     
  43. Johnksss

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    hummm, looking at that heat shield once again, i see it has the same type of screws as that picture you just posted. at the exact same place as the ones on the bottom of the card.... wonder if it has an inside plate as well..... or are they just like place holders...
     
  44. Geforce2go

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    oile... do you want the 8800 as a spare because the 9800M GT you have in your notebook is the same card, different name. Or am I missing something.
     
  45. oile

    oile Notebook Evangelist

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    no, I don't really need it, but a friend wants to give me as a gift.. since it is more OCable i would that card!
     
  46. Hirohata

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    Also if you fry one card, you still have a spare~ :D
     
  47. Johnksss

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    say olie....you aint going to get much higher unless you tinker with what you have now. i think the highest single 8800m gtx is around your score now...unless magnus, eleron or areis has beaten it.
     
  48. GanGstaOne

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    Here is picture of the card fron above
    this is picture off 8700M GT from D901C my 8800M GTX that i want to give Oile are the same i try very hard to remove matel plate that keep heatsink to the card but i cant
     

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    thanks gangstaone. because i sure would have lost on that bet. thinking the back plate could be easily removed.
     
  50. oile

    oile Notebook Evangelist

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    I was wandering how they fixed the back plate with card and with the 4 "adaptators"..
    Maybe the back plate exit with 4 cases out of the "card line" and then a machine push hardly the 4 adaptators on them...
    I think the only way to remove these is to force the back part to "leave" the card, levering from the rear of those holes
     

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