8800m Reading Bios, Overclocking--drivers

Ok,

Does anybody know what program to read the bios of a 8800m, the newest nibitor 3.8 is a no-go.

Plus, I can't seem to overl**** with ntune because of drivers, and rivatuner because the clocks are lower than they should be.

ati-tool I can change only 2 sets the mem/core if I user 169.04 drivers with self modded inf.

What drivers are working the Best for XP PRO. ? and allow for overl****ing?

I prefer to do bios hacking/overclocking because I can learn moreabout the card that way and I like it better because then i'm not driver dependant and can use any drivers I want that work the best. and overl**** without having them to be overclockable drivers. etc.

so Please can someone suggest the Best drivers for this card if there is such a thing at this time.

and a way to read the Bios, i assume we can just flash with nvflash but if not. please suggest an alternative.

I know someone posted some bioses in one of the threads.

I pm'd him but haven't heard back, he must have used a program to dump the bios...

thanks


dex

 

ok a nice guy on the forums has just solved my riddle of how to read the bios of the 8800m gtx's

since it's technically not supported in NIbior 3.8.

we have to read the bios from device, then read into nibitor.

then go to the adv info tab and change the device to 0611 (8800 gt) something that it knows.

then hit rescan bios and go back to where the clocks are.

now change the clocks, then go back to adv info and change back to 060c (default).

then hit rescan. now save and flash.

I haven't tried this yet. as I am at work. but I will for sure try it tonight.

standard disclaimer....

not that I would give a crap if you tried to sue me.. .lol

 

Ok,after some more testing and such. I've found For stability.

just change the Extra portion in the voltages menu to 1.05. then it will run stable at the clocks 600 1350 850.

The temps maybe are 2 degrees higher at idle and 2 degrees extra at max but at max fans! you don't gotta worry because she is cooler than witches tit.

 

Hmm Dexgo does it really work with changing the voltages in the bios? I always thought that was a no go, but if someone can prove the voltage actually changes I would be glad to hear. You would have to use a volt meter of course to see if there is any real change in Voltage.

 

we did extensive tests.

without the 1.05 in the extra in bios the puter freezes in 5 seconds into the game.

after added it works stable.

 

if your my interpretations I figured that Nibitor might indeed be reading the Voltages wrong because we have to do the 0611 060c swap. from 8800gt to 8800gtx.

so when I changed it to 1.05 and it DID make a huge diff. it could have because the voltage is indeed 1.05

There have been alot of mobile cards that you could change the voltage on via nibitor.

6800 6800 ultra, 7900gs etc.

this may or may not be one of them.

but until we get an updated version of nibitor who knows.

 

Yes you are right, though my go 7800GTX didn´t benefit from any voltages if it did change at all.

Hmm strange your 8800m GTX is "crippled" with crippled I mean I can run my at 1550 shaders without any upping any voltages, problems or freezes at all and you need to up the voltages to run the same clocks. Have you just tried running through Ntune for fun and see if you can push it to 1550 without having your laptop rebooting? I can run my cards at 625/1550/950 easily.

I think it´s strange my XPS M1730 can run those clocks without fiddeling with any voltages at all and it is all stable.

 

do me a favor and dump your cards bios with nibitor

tell me what your voltages are?

as i said. I believe that nibitor reads the bios wrong.

so the voltages are lowered.

I don't overclock with crap software.

I only do bios flashing. it's more better and doesn't mess up or change everytime I change drivers.

besides I can run those clocks easily too @ 1.05v.

theres nothing wrong with voltmoding.

peak @ crysis is 56 degrees.

I have the best cooling system in a laptop.

look at my post # 666

 

Yes sure I will dump the bios tomorrow. I agree it´s crap software, though I am too lazy to flash both my 8800m GTX´es so I overclock with Ntune since only Ntune works so far software wise, if Rivatuner works then I will go with Riva.

Though my go 7800GTX I have flashed so many times I can´t count anymore how many times I did it. But with two cards I think it is a bit of a hassle. Also there is no need for me to flash anymore since these are unlocked and Ntune saves the profile everytime I install a new driver, so no need to change the clocks everytime I install a new driver.

 

agree'd.

I appreciate your dumping the bios.

I wonder if you will have probs reading it as well?

I am very happy with my notebook sofar. it kicks butt.

I cannot wait until I grab the second GPU.

I agree that it's a hassle to do both cards.

 

Yes I checked before and Nibitor couldn´t read the bios. Will do as you suggested when I get home from work today in order to dump it correctly.

Funny thing is with SLI some newer games doesn´t benefit from it at all. Gears of War runs maxed so that´s expected at 60fps at 1920x1200 all maxed out DX10, 4xAA with one card, Test Drive Unlimited runs at 50-60 fps with one card with no increase from SLI so even some newer games doesn´t benefit much from SLI, still it´s nice that the power is there for future games specifically Far Cry 2 Crysis I just use as a benchmark now, not playing it anymore.

 

ya I read most games suck for SLI.

but some do and more in the future.

I am just happy that 1 card kicks I can play all games exept tryis @ max.

crysis 32fps 1680x1050 all settings high no tweaks.

i even got 1000 more points from my 10000 score

so ya know the oc I did as purely GPU bound on my 3dmark score.

the other processors are only 1-1.3k behind the q6600

I am super wicked happy. now my overclocks are doin good

I will get my second card very soon, as soon as they are released.

 

Yeah you have a great laptop Dexgo with the Quad Core I am happy over my XPS M1730, though there is some hassle with SLI but I will probably get used to it, nevertheless I do see some great benefit from SLI in some games.

Also this is my first SLI rig so to speak, even better is that it is a SLI laptop that is quite amazing

Oh Crysis definitely benefit from a Quad Core in regards to frames per second.

 

Manus,

"Yes I checked before and Nibitor couldn´t read the bios. Will do as you suggested when I get home from work today in order to dump it correctly."

Dump with GPUZ and edit with Nibitor. In Vista Nibitor cannot read the BIOS, unless it is already saved.

dexgo, the voltages of both my 8700M GT are:

3D: 1,32V
Thrtl: 1,15V
2D: 1,15V

I can overclock with RivaTunner. Just used Nibitor to have a glimpse the drivers I'm using to solve you know what.

It seams that on techpowerup newer FWs are published. But I would not test them myself.

Trance
PS: Please note that the 8800M GTX seam to use energy far more efficiently then the previous cards. I was under the impression these the GTX sucked more energy but I guess it does not. By the way I can get easily over 10.000 in SLi with my cards, but means nothing really.

 

Can you dump the bios with GPU-Z? I never knew that, have always dumped with Nibitor

 

just dump it with nibitor read device then read into nibitor

 

Two notes:

* nibitor could not dump on Vista x64, only on XP (had not tried it on Vista x32)
* nibitor could not dump the child card on XP, only the parent was listed (SLi)

GPUZ could do both.

Trance

 

Vista sux.

you want better gaming and drivers and program that works.

get XP

 

Allright Dexgo here is the bios

http://www.mediafire.com/?qexzda1hfsj

 

thanks very much bud. very much!

 

No probs Dex, you´re welcome

 

ok, got it.

now I just need the 8800 bios from the m57ru

 

New info about the 9260 and the locked 1350 shader stuff.

I and a friend have found that the new bios from Eurocom for the 901c unlocks the lock on the shader freequency.

however you need the .14 8800 bios. rather than .12 which alot of people have.

I successfuly flashed 600 1400 950 this is 100% stable for me and I get 11998 marks.

I can however clock it to the max 630 1400 950 and I got 11400 marks.

but again I get freezing.

I have had good results for just 1 card. and will permanently tekk it at these clocks.

I have never had a freeze and gained over 1000 marks in 3dmark as well as lots of fps games Jericho, Crysis, Bioshock...

I am good for now.

I am going to tweak a little on the .14 d901c bios to see if I get a stable 630
1500 950

 

Hi mate

Did the temperture increase much when you overclocked?

Are you just flashing the card to the new clock settings or actually pre-testing them with ATI tool to make sure its stable?

Can't wait to see what the 9260 can do with 8800 SLI

 

I don't use ati-tool just to monitor temps.

I just flash

 

I put her back together and you couldn't even know at afar she was damaged.

if you look up close on the one back corner there is 2 cracks very small hairline ones.

and you can't see the ones in the back because when I screwed her back together they re-aligned.

when I get plastics I will wait until she really needs the change

then I will restore to a 100% brand new looking notebook!

I am using nvtray now because it shows me FPS in game and TEMPS whilst playing. it kicks ass.

it can do much more as well.

shyster here's the link to my lates score incase you missed it o'e pal!

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=232749

 

Those scores are really great dexgo - I tried running one of those benchmark apps on my lil vaio and I would take the oath on a stack of bibles (or whatever other book matters most) that the thing actually s******ed before it locked up and refused to give any results.

What are you gonna do with the old plastics after you swap them out? I'm thinking mounted on a wall-plaque and hung on the wall old-school style.

 

I need to know how to install and where to find the famous ".14 bios"

then i guess with Nibitor i should b able to do the rest of the process described here by Dexgo ?

 

check what bios you got in nibitor

 

i found the .14 bios, when i load it with nibitor it doesnt recognize the profile and gives me core clock values of 21860
... after that point should i put the values i want in the appropriate spaces and then figure (unless someone helps me) how to flash bios ?

 

dude, you have to read all the stuff I posted.

I wrote howtos in these threads.

read them

all you need is right here.

if you are not carefull you will brick your card.

all the stuff you need is on this forum and google.

I had to read for weeks to learn about hex bits and bios flashing.

I tell people how to solve flashing in the beginning of the thread.

if you didn't see it. then you haven't even read this thread.........

read read read. and you might learn.

 

k, i got the dell .14 bios from previous page.. (edit : err... these are not .14 bios at all). downloaded nvflash latest version.
there is now an extra settings filled with proper speeds..
and it says the voltage is 1v
BUT cant seems to go above that, should I still overvolt it Dexgo ?

thx a lot for the help !

 

uhm, i read most of it im just unfammiliar with a lot of things.
see so far i had no clue i needed to know anything 'bout hex bits tho'... i'll check this out

 

Disclaimer, I am not taking blame for anything to do with this.

you need to read dude.

you can't use a DELL BIOS on the CARDS we have.

YOU NEED TO READ.

for weeks. to learn what you are doing. and the implications.

you better just user riva tuner with the 169.04 drivers and OC with software.

you can't just jump into bioses like this dude.

your gonna end up with a dead card and no warranty on it. beacause John Shore and His Chronies (boss man) read all this forum.

and they know that you are overclocking. and won't warranty you afterwords. especially for your card.

just know this.

you need to grasp what you are doing before you jump in.

 

I'm going crazy
Could you give me the EXACT nvflash parameters that you used for flashing???
I'm forced to use a bootable cd because the HP utility doesn't work on my eutron picodisk 512 (It said succesfull but at boot "No OS found" ).
When I use as always "R:nvflash newbios.rom" (R: is exact) it tell me I/O error cannot open the file.
I removed write protection of the bios (if was indeed)
I used a lot of cd

Please help me

 

any Answer???

 

you need the newest nvflash.

 

Solved
Incredible how after years of bios flashing, the default options of Nero 8 can make you waste 6 hours!!!
However thanks.
The frequencies I've chosen are 600 1400 900 stable without voltmod. max temp. 67 for now.
in testing

 

What kind of crash have you experienced?
I use the 174.74 and 3dmark repeted 7 times didn't give me any error.
When I ran crysis however after a variable time nvidia CP give me an error: nv4disp stopped to work and I'm forced to reboot manually.
This error is fault of beta drivers or of the OC?? thx

 

make sure you are using 174.31, bios # 13, .14 video bios and volt mod.

plus XP. We have put this thru the tracks and found that the best results from the above.

 

I've the 8800M GTX of a clevo M571RU.
So what is bios #13? I've .14 and I'm running XP 32bit
But have you already tested the 174.74 and are bad??

 

these are instructions for 9262 I don't know about the RU, because nobody's said much abou it.

174.31 have the best results that we have found.

turn up your voltage to 1.05

 

So is sure this thing of voltmod?
in past repies it wasn't so.

 

without the volt mod. we can't achieve clocks past 1350 900.

with the voltmod I am using 600 1500 950 totally stable.
you need to read.

I have posted all of these results in other threads

 

yes, I've red your treads but I don't know if is the case also of my 8800M GTX!
The freeze you experienced were about the driver?? or not?Thanks

 

try 174.31.

your clocks are low. they are just above the borderline.

we have tested these cards inside and out...

 

Hi...

650/1625/950 here stable without changing/editing bios.

Just saying you might not need to mess around with flashing ect...

 

you have a dell. and the dell is not the clevo.

the cards are differnt. that's what I've been tryin to drill people about.

btw your card is allready running at 1.05 in one of your vids.

so was mine. I just activated it. that's all.

im not a fricken newb. I have been doing this for years upon years.

we can OC just like you that high by software. but we are restricted to crappy drivers that allow for OC.

with bios you OC 1 time and keep it there forever.

that's why I OC. to find something that works and stick with it til the end.

and then I can change drivers 1000 time and never have to re-do or mess with ocing.

THERE IS LOGIC BEHIND THIS.

 

I don't have any vids lol?
Sure having the clocks set in the bios is nice but its just as easy and safer to make a profile in Ntune with the clock you want and set it to auto start when windows is starts...

 

you do have vids, in your bios. we all do.

your a nice guy. but I don't think that you understand me

Overclocking by the bios is safe. it's for people whom want to keep their clocks at this forever. just flashing 1 time. that's it.

not dabbling in overclocking so they can turn on their overclocks when they want to do a 3dmark score or play a game.

I use my clocks 24-7 at this rate. and everytime I change drivers I don't have to worry about if overclocking is locked or stuff like that.