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    8800m gtx problem? one more for the bakery?

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by levito, Jan 4, 2010.

  1. levito

    levito Notebook Enthusiast

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    Long story short, my PC freezes up semi-consistently when going into 3d performance mode. If i make it into gaming mode, which i do sometimes, i get solid performance at very high settings in modern games.

    However, i usually dont make it into 3d mode, as i get this bizzarre technicolor system freeze that requires a hard reset, at the exact moment that the gpu should be beginning its 3d rendering.

    Does anyone have any experience with this? the card is relatively new, i bought it on ebay a few months back, and i know for a fact that as long as the card stays in low power 3d mode there will be no crashes, trust me on this, the problem happens when it throttles up for performance 3d.

    ive been testing different video drivers, removing them with driver sweeper etc, but the drivers dont seem to have much to do with it.

    Clevo m570ru-u 8800m gtx, bios 1.00.12.

    help?
     
  2. Rorschach

    Rorschach Notebook Virtuoso NBR Reviewer

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    What is gaming mode?

    Download nibitor and load your bios into it. http://downloads.guru3d.com/NVIDIA-BIOS-Editor-v5.2-(nibitor)-download-2050.html
    post back with a picture of your gpu clocks and your gpu voltages. It sounds like it could be a voltage related issue. Are you using any overclocking tools/methods?
     
  3. levito

    levito Notebook Enthusiast

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    gaming mode would be the higher clock, higher voltage, performance 3d mode, i.e. "extra" in Nibitor. I know that this mode is what causes the problems, as untill i updated my system BIOS from 1.07, which left my 8800m gtx downclocked, to 1.12 which gives me appropriate clock speeds, i was able to run alot of 3d applications reliably although at reduced performance. Now i get excellent performance, with the system freezes.

    here are .jpgs of my clocks and volts. i hope that helps.

    Oh, everything is stock, clocks volts etc, all stock.
     

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    Rorschach Notebook Virtuoso NBR Reviewer

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    nope looks like your out of luck and baking it is not a permanent fix.
     
  5. Benjamin Wassink

    Benjamin Wassink Notebook Geek

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    Flash to a newer bios...... :rolleyes:
     
  6. levito

    levito Notebook Enthusiast

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    well, i just flashed my firmware and bios on the mobo, but i've never flashed my 8800m's bios before, can you help me with that? as far as creating whatever disk i need for it etc? i noticed you have some nice looking numbers on yours in your sig Benjamin is that a product of a flash also?
     
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    Rorschach Notebook Virtuoso NBR Reviewer

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    >.> if he was going to help you he could have just given you his vbios. Seeing as how he didn't well...To flash the bios you will need to download nibitor and nvflash as well as make a bootable usb device.

    Ps:don't overclock your gpu's memory.
     
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    Benjamin Wassink Notebook Geek

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    levito Notebook Enthusiast

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    ok, i downloaded the .rom package you sent me, thanks for that. I've never flashed a gpu bios before, if you can tell me what i should use to make this .rom bootable, id appreciate that.

    Ive tried making a bootable USB bu the drive i have doesnt seem to want to do that, so id rather make this into a bootable image, and once having done so would like to know if there are any other utilities i'll need on the image, and what commands to enter. Thanks.
     
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    Rorschach Notebook Virtuoso NBR Reviewer

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    >.> did you use hpformat utility to try and make it bootable? Theres really no reason why it wouldn't work.
     
  11. theriko

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    The hp utility sometimes doesn't like some usb sticks. Ensure you're formatting it as FAT32 with the dos boot disk option selected and the bootme files as the target.
     
  12. levito

    levito Notebook Enthusiast

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    Okay, i'm going to post the entire history of what i've done here, so you guys can maybe take some shots at conclusions, maybe someone can help.

    Bought a M570ru, came with an 8700m gt.
    Swapped out the 8700m gt with an 8800m gtx.
    8800m did not work, i had to update my BIOS to 1.08.

    8800m works well here, although not at full capacity, was told that the m570ru doesn't supply enough power to 8800m and requires a new mobo.

    I needed a new chassis anyway as the old one was falling apart at this point.

    Ordered an m570ru-u barebones with an 8700m gt thinking i could just swap again. Swapped all my hardware over. BIOS here was 1.07, 8800m gtx did not clock up properly during gaming.

    updated BIOS and firmware. BIOS is now 1.12.

    Received incredible performance gains with occaisional weird crashes. Basically 50/50 when starting a game, the system would totally freeze and the screen would show a weird red/blue/green distorted halo around the last image it rendered. hereby referred to as the technicolor kiss of death.

    Driver madness ensues, i finally find a solid driver package, which has been installed properly having driver sweeped in safemode.

    Noticed one really bizarre anomaly, loaded up Company of Heroes. Game loads fine, in an improper resolution. In game benchmark comes back rather solid, when i switch the games resolution to max i get the technicolor kiss of death again.

    Any attempt at running any game causes technicolor kiss of death instantly. Temps are reported fine, all other applications and functions seem to be working normally.

    any thoughts?

    *Just rated my system again, i have dropped one tenth of a point in RAM performance, while the 8800m gtx is coming up at the full 5.9/5.8 it has when it was working properly before. Im showing my full 4 gigs of RAM, is it possible this is a RAM issue?

    ** just remembered that i occasionally received the technicolor kiss of death before the hardware changeover, much more rarely, accompanied by a BSOD.
     
  13. rarden30mm

    rarden30mm Notebook Consultant

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    Sorry to hear of your misfortunes i dont know as much as you about the hardware side of things.But what operating system are u using?I use windows xp now more than vista as i find it much more stable and drivers are more stable as well.In reguards to your problem,what temperatures are u getting when these malfunctions happen?
    When u exchanged gpus did u use thermal compound correctly?I suppose it is just a case of proccess of elimination good luck.
     
  14. LaptopNut

    LaptopNut Notebook Virtuoso

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    I recommend running Memtest to check your RAM.
     
  15. Padmé

    Padmé NBR Super Pink Princess

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    @levito. Your threads have been merged as they are basically on the same topic.
     
  16. levito

    levito Notebook Enthusiast

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    ok, is it possible to flash the bios using nvflash in vista using a dvd?

    can anyone give me walkthrough for that, i tried making a bootable image in imageburn once so far but it didnt work.

    help?

    --edit--
    i ran memtest RAM seems to be fine.
     
  17. levito

    levito Notebook Enthusiast

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    help, anyone?
     
  18. Soviet Sunrise

    Soviet Sunrise Notebook Prophet

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