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    90% Gamut Glossy Display or GTX 680m

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by vuman619, Jun 11, 2012.

  1. vuman619

    vuman619 Notebook Evangelist

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    Hi Guys,

    As per the title, I have ordered a P170EM with all of the options in my signature, the only ones I am tossing up about is either I keep the gtx 680m or get the 90% gamut glossy display, I really need to make my decision today as my laptop is currently being built.(albeit with a 7970m).

    I really like matte screens but 90% gamut is really tempting. If i get the glossy display I will effectively save myself $100. I might even get both, any suggestions?
     
  2. Tyranids

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    Is it 90% amut + 7970M vs 680M? In that case yes.
     
  3. aduy

    aduy Keeping it cool since 93'

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    i would get both, totally worth imo, but if you had to choose i would just gte the 680m, that is going to be a beast of a card and the drivers are going to be much better than the amd. also the 17" has a 72% gamut screen already so you wont notice as much as on the 15" which comes with a 60% to 95%.
     
  4. jaug1337

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    I wouldn't go full glossy.. considering the fact that this is a fairly large screen and you will be gaming and using it for awesomeness, any chance of glare and presumable lighting on the screen reflecting off would be sad..
    - I would go with the matte :) 90% gamut or not, you wont die, if it was 90% gamut matte.. that might be something to consider
     
  5. vuman619

    vuman619 Notebook Evangelist

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    I completely agree, i would have liked to have a 90% gamut matte option, but my reseller doesn't offer the option; otherwise it would be a no brainer.

    I'm gonna make the decision by today, it's looking like i will probably just forget the 90% gamut screen as it is glossy and i will use my laptop in transit and a bright office and just settle with the gtx 680m. Looks like i won't be gaming until July ><"
     
  6. aduy

    aduy Keeping it cool since 93'

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    good choice, i prefer matte myself, and the 680m should be worth the wait. good luck!
     
  7. jaug1337

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    lets hope so!! I'm really excited to see what nVIDIA has to show
     
  8. vuman619

    vuman619 Notebook Evangelist

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    I promise everybody as soon as i receive my laptop; unbiased results will go up!
     
  9. hexum23

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    Can't believe some of you are recommending the 680m over the 90% screen. You will be staring at the screen all of the time, upgrade it! You can always upgrade the video card later. Upgrading the screen later will be much more difficult than the video card. Also, this is up for some debate, but it looks like the 680m isn't worth the ~$300 price difference for a marginal performance increase over the 7970m.
     
  10. vuman619

    vuman619 Notebook Evangelist

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    While I do totally agree with you, the glossy display is a bit let down as I would like to see my games and not my own reflection.

    I also agree that the gtx 680m will most likely be a waste of money, that marginal increase is an investment into the future.

    Also I am hoping that before my system gets shipped; someone else receives their system so I can see some benchmarks.
     
  11. Zymphad

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    I agree. The screen is the one thing you will be using 100% of time on your laptop. It's the thing I would spend the most money on upgrading, no doubt for me. Especially considering in games looks to be only about 5% difference between 680M and 7970M.

    And the whole diatribe about AMD drivers being bad is just pure FUD.
     
  12. vuman619

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    I thought about it for a while and decided that I would like the 90% gamut matte screen, which is what I will be purchasing as an aftermarket option later on, as I have stated before glossy isn't really an option (bright office/use on trains) as my reseller doesn't offer the matte screen.

    Even though I am ordering a gtx 680m if benches come out and prove the gtx 680m to be performing less than stellar, I can always change my order back to a hd 7970m.

    Edit: I have just called my reseller and have confirmed my matte screen is 72% gamut, I am very happy to hear that, it may not be 90% but will still be fantastic with my new gtx 680m :D
     
  13. hexum23

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    I've heard that others with the 72% matte are very pleased. Another member on here said it was "gorgeous". If you will be using this on trains/areas prone to sunlight, the glossy will probably drive you nuts. My laptop will mostly be indoors away from sunlight so I opted for the 90% glossy.
     
  14. aduy

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    in the end you can upgrade the screen later, and upgrading the screen will cost less than upgrading the graphics card, also then you can find a matte 90% screen to throw in it if you are lucky.
     
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    I would have to get matte screen if it was me.
    I don't understand why the 680 could justify such a price premium, but i'm probably missing something obvious
     
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    I was under the impression that the stock screen (glossy and matte both) is 60% gammut, while the upgraded options are 72% matte (+$150) and 90% glossy (+$185).
     
  17. aduy

    aduy Keeping it cool since 93'

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    no the 15" stock screen is 60% while the 17" comes stock with a 72% screen
     
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    Actually it is 66%...
     
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    At 60% Gammut stock or even 66%, would is it even worth the $150 upgrade to 72% Gammut? I can understand the jump to 90% Glossy, but I'm not seeing the advantage of going from 66% --> 72%.
     
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    I would wait to see how well 680m overclocks and how high are its temps, if its worse than 7970m then its a no brainer. If its similar I would probably still get 7970m + 90% gamut screen, - its trully gorgeous (it needs to be balibrated though. i have a calibrated icc profile I can upload if you need it).
     
  22. vuman619

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    That's kind of why i pre ordered it, i hopefully will have enough time to see the benchmarks because cancelling the card is cheaper than getting charged a restocking fee.

    Calibrated icc profile would be awesome though, +rep :D
     
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    Really looking forward to it
    Congrats on your awesome upcoming notebook :)
     
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    I would put screen before graphics card, however it really comes down to matte vs glossy. I have a 27" IPS glossy monitor and I would never trade it for a matte. However when my father asked for a recommendation for a 27" screen I recommended an IPS matte monitor. I will put up with the reflections in exchange for the glorious picture of the glossy in the right conditions. I knew the reflections would drive my father nuts. It comes down to if you are willing or able to adjust your environment for the glossy.
     
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    I agree, when the choice is between a IPS screen and a GPU that has insane power and in this case it stands before the 7970M and 680M which are very close, it's a no-brainer. But a Gamut glossy/matte screen is nowhere near a IPS screen.

    Better off having amazing vision than a small increase in power IMO. And yes matte is indeed better, they've almost perfected the matte look now, looks better and much lighter than it did once ;)
     
  26. Exmortis

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    For the issues I read about for AMD drivers, there really isn't that much diff. Though I have used ATI exclusively since the MACH32, I have been supporting sponging friends with Nvidia for some time, and what I can say with relative ease is, they both have their issues. Though I have alot more friends with Nividia who couldn't even play games over the years then any ATI. For multi-card, Nvidia still holds an advantage, but it has been getting smaller and smaller every year.

    On release, they both suck, both only have new cards with shipped reference driver support for some time, and this is getting worse on both sides, but WE are to blame. The first time WE bought a vidcard cuz its new over mature drivers, we told them its OK.

    In the end, 90% color would be the clear winner, and as far as 680M? Like always it will be a little better then the AMD but hold a significant price gap thus making it a poor buy. Nvidia has a habit of creeping just beyond AMD with their latest card, but at an aweful price premium.
     
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    I would also like a confirmation if this is the 90% gamut matte screen, though i probably won't be getting one as i am still on the look out for a 17.3" IPS screen. It would be awesome if someone could post a link to buy one for the clevo laptops :D
     
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    I don't think it's the same screen, this is the model for 17" 90% glossy: auo b173hw01 v.4
     
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