9262 Sli :-(

Hi !

Just run a 3D Mark test with my new sli configuration (8800m GTX with Q6700 and 4go ram)

single gpu 10300
SLI : 9070 ????????

What's happening ???? Very disappointed

 

bad drivers

 

check your drivers

 

What operating system are you running?

Try this suggestion:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=3255015&postcount=325

 

Definitely on SLI your cards are downclocking.
Try either 174.31 or 174.82(the ones I`m using atm) since they give very good results and do what Falcon sugested, turn Multi-threadead to On.

 

I have an NP9262 with SLI 8800s - the cards are downclocking in SLI mode.

Try putting on max fans (Fn + 1) and running 3DMark06 again. By doing that I got the scores this notebook is supposed to get. Install the drivrs eleron recommended first (the 174.82 are working great for me; you can download them from Sager).

Unfortunately in Vista both my cards are half-clocked and I can't get them to run at full speed (174.82 driver). I am going to try a reinstall of Vista and see if that helps.

 

What you guys need is a BIOS flash to force the clocks to stay at max.
Or a better BIOS,that`s for sure.
I`d PM anyone who has the 9262SLI and ask what drivers they have and if their cards are downclocking.

 

Under XP though my cards are fine, that's the thing. Wouldn't that pinpoint it as a software issue with Vista?

 

A lot of people report pretty good score in Vista SLI also. SO it`s just the driver acting up and the BIOS not doing it`s job properly.

 

can you check the gpu temps with rivatuner under idle and load? crysis really brings the heat, at least on my system.

 

Have installed 174.82... still 9000 at 3D mark... but run great with games (World in conflict and coh opposing fronts)... seem quite a lot better than a day ago with only one gpu... so it seems it's an problem in 3D mark assessment

sincerely !

 

I checked using GPU-Z; at idle the GPUs are 74/65 and under load it is around 87/79. However with max fans, the load temp is only 79/67. How do those compare to your temperatures?

Are you sure you are still not just using one 8800M-GTX? It is a very powerful graphics card and can handle most games on max by itself.

 

87C ? Seems quite a lot for this notebook. Other people report far less, even with OCing.
Maybe SLI has a toll on temps worse than I thought.

 

i would recomment you use rivatuner so we can be on the same page with results. i do not understand why such a large disparity between cards. you idle at 74 for one card and 65 for another, hmm. maybe you are reading it incorrectly. then again, i myself may be reading rivatuner incorrectly.

i read "core temperature" and "core temperature 1" for gpu temps. there is another reading called "core temperature 0" and i do not know what that is but it is always like 10c lower than the other two so i assume that is some other kind of sensor.

i idle in the mid to upper 60's and crysis brings the heat at 90.5c (i have only gamed for a short few hours, nothing long term yet) in full screen mode in wuxga resolution.

i do have a problem, though. the computer beeps when i play games and sometimes the scroll lock and caps locl will flash when it beeps. it has done this quite often when i bench supreme commander or crysis (haven't had time to play any other games yet) in full screen wuxga. i do not run max fans as it should not be a requirement to prevent overheating in a normal tempurature controlled room so have not fully tested for the beeps under max fans yet. in max fans crysis hits only 70c. the beeps are supposed to be heat related but they have occured @75c and 80c gpu temps. other times when i hit 90c there are no beeps so they appear to be random.

sager tech support told me that 90c is fine for gpu but almost everyone on this forum says it's way too high.

chaz, so far your temps are inline with mine. i hope you can use rivatuner to get a more accurate result with me, though. either people are using too many other gpu monitoring programs that give off different readings or sager must be right.

regardless i am having a replacement system sent to me because the beeps are making me worried and that is not normal. i am being led to believe that our gpu temps are too high. i will see how the replacement system is. if the temps are the same as my current one i will assume they are normal under normal fans. but, i do not expect the beeps to continue with the replacement.

 

my card with as5 zalman and max fans idle at 36-37 and peak at 64-65

 

just a quick question regarding the Q6700 cpu as compared to a 2.5ghz based penryn one.. which one is better in terms of clock for clock i have a guy on another forum saying that i have wasted my money getting the np9262 when i shuld have gotten a dell xps1730 for the same amount of money

 

that's a questionable....

my q6600 i overclocked in my d901c to 3ghz and it will rock some of the new gen DESKTOP ones.!!!

let alon every single mobile one on the planet.

 

this is what the guy said

m not sure how you worked that out but with $3,645.40AUD (not including any additional discounts which weren't already setup) I speced out the XPS m1730 with:
- A penryn based 2.5Ghz processor with 6mb of cache
- 4gb of ddr2
- 17" (1920x1200)
- 2x 8800m gtx
- 2x 320gb hdd in raid
- audigy upgrade

So for a little more than $1500 less I have managed to make a laptop which is more or less equal to yours.

Yours has a quad core yes but this laptop has a next generation dual core which is not only faster clock for clock but which also uses substantially less power and outputs substantially less heat. In addition there are little to no games that will actually utilise the two extra cores.

The dell is equipped with not one but two 320gb hdd which can be raided for additional performance.

The dell is equipped with a blue ray reader

finally for two years I can do whatever I want with the dell and know that they will replace it as it has complete cover.

 

any luck with regards to which is the better processor? a Q6700 or T9300

 

yours is faster because it has a QUAD DESKTOP PROCESSOR

can do RAID 0,1,5 with 3 hdd's

the processor is FASTER!

his is cooler and less power because it has a mobile one.

 

q6700 will eat the crap out a t9300....lol

it's even better than the x7800/x7900

beats it in synthetic benchmarks and real ones too.

better at encoding etc etc.

they can't even compete dude.

that guy is talking nonsense.

don't believe him.

chalange him to a wprime test LOLOLOL

or a real-world encoding test.

then we will see how slow he is compared to yours.

 

Thanks dude... !!

 

Rivatuner is reading the cards as the same temperature plus or minus two degrees, I think you are right and that it is more accurate. It's showing nearly the same temperatures - 86-87*C is still the highest I have seen.

To test my overheating theory, I played Call of Duty 4 without the fans on max and after a few minutes the game became choppy. I restarted the game and used max fans, and the performance never became choppy. Neither Rivatuner nor GPU-Z showed any reduction in clocks so something else must be at work or the programs are simply not detecting the downclocking.

Is anyone else having this sort of issue?

 

So the test unit is Overheating? Man, that doesn`t sound good. Did you receive the 9262 from powernotebooks, Chaz?
Maybe Donald forgot to assemble it properly ( don`t take it personally Donald )

 

chaz mine never downclocks even hitting 91c in crysis. mine will simply beep at me. the beep count is random. i have heard it beep up to 6 times and it occures at random temps.

not sure what is more annoying, the downclocking or beeping.

 

Mine would overheat but i am overclocked in Cpu, GPU.

it takes max fans and a cooling pad to be stable.

and I believe I did overheat when i first got this unit.

I brought this up in a thread about the fans not turning on to max automatically....

so I haved been using max fans ever since.

also use XP.
Vista is crap in more ways than 1.

 

you mean it beeped in games when you first got the system?

 

yes. I remember the beeping.

 

I don't think that was beeping, that was the Intel Anti-OC cops vainly trying to keep up with you.

 

ROFLMAO dude
I`m still waiting for Chaz`s full 9262 SLI review and see if his really overheats..

 

It'll be good to see Chaz' review - he's pretty consistent across reviews, so his should sort of set a benchmark.

 

Yea, it might just help some people see that this notebooks is one of the best yet.
Although I do have a bad feeling the unit he received has overheating issues or something similar. He reported temps of close to 90C ...
I`m just glad I undervolted my CPU, max temp dropped from 68 to 57C under normal max load and absolute max temp 67C

 

The problem with my NP9262 is that the fans are not spinning up on the GPU. They are on the CPU however. I'm working with Sager to try and figure this out as we speak.

Has anyone heard of a problem like this before with the NP926x?

Edit: Maybe the Penryn is causing the issue . . . not sure.

 

I have had SLI running for a few weeks now and have never experienced any downclocks or beeps ( except one time when i had the laptop too close to the wall in front of me so the rear heat exhaust was just looming around the laptop )

I'll check my temps but I often don't use max fans unless I actually feel the laptop getting warm.

(no overclocking here)

 

It prob is an issue with the new chips

 

i just downloaded gpu-a and i don't know if i am reading it correctly, but does it say my clocks are running at half speed? if so, then it's wrong because my framerates in-game are just fine. is COD4 the only game you played to check framerates?

on a side note, rivatuner states my clocks incorrectly and i cannot tell which temp reading is which. atitool only shows one reading and cannot tell which gpu it is and gpu-z appears to show wrong clocks as well. man oh man it is a total cluster***k! how can we ever get an accurate reading?

 

that's normal ARGH

mine is the same. and it's an issue with our cards and GPU-Z.

It's always been like that. and reads them at half.

but they are indeed at full.

I use ATI-TOOL to monitor TEMPS down in the cornder 24-7 and you can open it up and see that it's going into Full CLOCKS!!

also install NVtray program.

It gives you your TEMPS Accurately of Both Cards in top left in GAMES!

also it gives you what both your cards Clocks ARE AT as well in the top left as well.

very very usefull so you can see what your temps and clocks are doing whilst playing games.

 

here is rivatuner with wrong clocks info. how would you even know which temp reading is which since "core temperature 0" reading shows high temps when running a game in windowed mode (where sli is disabled, generally) and the other 2 readings only spike when in full screen mode and the temp 0 reading decreases dramatically...

 

I use Nvtray and Ati-tool

they always show the correct TEMPS.

that's that

 

ati-tool only shows one temp reading so i do not know which gpu it is.

 

use nvtray.

it show both temps in game while you play and out of game.

it also shows clock speeds and fps if you so chose for Both GPU'S.

and it's 100% accurate. it's the same as speedfan, ati-tool and gpu-z

 

where does it show temps out of game? don't see any temp related option in this program.

 

it has to be the right program.
but it does show

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=60122

or a newer program

it does have an osd for ingame

get a newer version this one is way old but is the right one

 

here is a version history

http://nvtweak.laptopvideo2go.com/Changelog.txt

read how is says on screen display for temps

and get the version which it says that for.

 

An update to this - turns out all I needed to do was reseat the video cards and update the firmware on the notebook, it's working fine now with no overheating.

 

Chaz, you have a 9262?

 

I do, it is a review unit. Expect the review in 1 - 2 weeks.

 

What CPU is it??

Can you try Dexgos Mods and have them "officially" benchmarked?

 

hey fellas im having trouble connecting my WLan to my router.

i can see it on my lappy but when i connect to it it says unable to connect.

it then prompts me to see what the problem is and it says low signal strength.

is there any settings i gotta play wid in vista or the intelpro wireless lan drivers to get it working.

im running x64 vista by the. way.

so far this lappy is humming like a well oiled machine except for this annoying lil thing. any help will be greatly appreciated.

 

That's good news. How's the system feel temp-wise now? As cool as most owners seem to report?

Maaan, the next 1-2 weeks are going to drag by.