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    9262 Sli :-(

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Ufoman, Apr 19, 2008.

  1. ARGH

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    i experienced the same exact problem with my previous alienware m9750 laptop with the Intel PRO/Wireless 3965AGN. it would connect to all my neighboring wireless signals except mine. kept saying low signal strength when trying to connect but or some ther crap. in the end it simply would not connect to my old d-link router. it would connect to my other router (a newer d-link), though. it would connect through a wired connection, though.

    i returned that laptop and got the 9262 with the Intel PRO/Wireless 4965AGN and have not had this problem. it would connect to both laptops so i am thinking it was the 3 series cards that did not like my old router.
     
  2. dazzyd

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    hang in there mate the wait is worth it. :D can amyone help me with my question above.?? justin gophn shyster .

    ive got 2 other laptops hooked up to my wlan router but its just that my 9262 is being stubborn :(
     
  3. dazzyd

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    hmm so u got no problems connecting ay ..?? argh
     
  4. Shyster1

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    Offhand, see whether or not the wireless card has a setting to permit variation in the aggressiveness with which it roams networks - if so, try setting it to the lowest setting.

    Also, try powering down the router by unplugging it for at least 10 seconds, and then restarting it. If that doesn't help, and if there aren't any layout problems that could be causing interference with the signal, try resetting to factory default and updating the firmware. Beyond that, a new router, perhaps?
     
  5. dazzyd

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    thanks shyster it was the routers fault by the way. its all fixed now hehehe but guess what another problem has popped up

    i have installed the 178.42 drivers for my gfx. and enabled sli.

    installed rivatuner and guess what. my clocks say i have got 383 core 800 shader and 200 on memory.

    i thought these cards were 500 core 1250 shader and 800 memory.? w

    what is wrong and is there any work around to this
     
  6. Shyster1

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    That bit's not my forte. Try pm'ing dexgo, he's one of the experts on those matters around here.
     
  7. Charles P. Jefferies

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    Sorry hkman, I am not going to modify this system outside its specifications or do anything remotely risky with it.

    I have an E8400 3.0GHz.
    Yes it is running much cooler now. Under full load from 3DMark06 for over a half hour straight, and the temperatures stayed 83*C or under for both cards. Idle is now around 70-71*C.

    The D900C is a fantastic piece of engineering.
     
  8. Xirurg

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    ^hehehe :),i m waiting for "mine"!
     
  9. eleron911

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    Actually, the RU is a fantastic piece of engineering.
    MAx CPU temps now 59C, max GPU temp, 65C :D
    I don`t know why I thought that the D901C would be cooler for some reason. I sure am glad that mine is cool as an ice machine :D
     
  10. ARGH

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    your laptop runs cooler but is louder than the d900c so that's why.
     
  11. eleron911

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    It doesn`t matter. Cooler=better lifespan.
    Besides,this isn`t a debate.
    I said that because other people reported WAY LESS degrees at max temps.
    I am not running max fan.If I were, the temps would go even lower.
    But yes, personally I would`ve gone for the 926x if I had the heart to throw another 1k .
     
  12. Charles P. Jefferies

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    GPUs are designed to operate at higher temperatures than other parts of the computer, even the CPU. 83*C is not dangerous for a GPU, it is within acceptable operating temperatures. The NP9262's temperatures are perfectly fine. The NP5793's GPU runs cooler, yes, but it also only has one card. It is difficult to justify comparing the NP9262's temperatures to the NP5793's temperatures; they are two entirely different machines and use several different components.
     
  13. eleron911

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    I know that, I was only trying to see why some people with the 9262 say that their max temps are pretty close to my stock ones.
    As I said, a 9262 would`ve been my choice if money wasn`t an issue. But it`s good to know the temps are not longer an issue for worrying.
     
  14. Magnus72

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    Hmm Chaz it still sounds a little high to me 83 degrees running 3D Mark 06? Idling at 70 degrees? I though this unit was cooler than my XPS M1730, but damn it is a whole 10 degrees difference. Mine idles at 60 degrees and gets up to 73 degrees running 3D Mark 06 and this with overclocked GPU´s too.

    Now if 3D Mark runs at 83 now what would Crysis at 1920x1200 run at then since Crysis is way more GPU intensive than 3D Mark, 90+?. Well it will be interesting to see your review of the unit, but to me this doesn´t sound cool at all, not at least from what you wrote here about the temps.
     
  15. eleron911

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    Yea, pretty much my idea also.
    I am inviting 8800M GTX SLI users to report their temps...
     
  16. wobble

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    OK. I added a second 8800 a few days ago, and have done several temp runs with the games I have. As expected, Crysis raised the temps the quickest so I'll just report my findings with that game.

    Idle temps at normal room temperatures are 54-56 degrees. After running around in Crysis for a half hour or so, the temps reach 76-79 degrees, at which time the fans go to mid-speed and keep the temps between 72 and 76 indefinitely. With high fans on, temps run around 62-64 degrees. In all cases the temps are only a few degrees higher than they were with one card.

    These temps were read while the computer was on my lap (on a lap board) using nvTray which agrees with all my other temp measuring programs.
     
  17. eleron911

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    Well then, it is expected to see higher temps in this system with SLI, but I suppose they`re safe temps anyway.
    Nice rig @wobble, enjoy it! :)
     
  18. dazzyd

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    im getting idle tems around 47 to 53 for both my cards with my zalman NC2000 cooler.. thats actually quite cool i think :D
     
  19. Charles P. Jefferies

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    That is quite cool. Could you try it without the cooler for comparison?
     
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  21. eleron911

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    GangstaOne , could you report your idle/max load temps?
    We`re trying to make a comparison here...
     
  22. GanGstaOne

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    eleron911 i use custom build external cooling with 4 fans
    my temps are...

    GPU
    Idle - 45 laptop fans Off - SLI Off
    Peak -55 laptop fans Max - SLI ON
    CPU
    Idle - 50,55 laptop fans off
    Peak - 35,45 laptop fans Max
     
  23. Neil@Kobalt

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    174.82 are fine performance wise in Vista 64 - getting 14,000 in 3DMark06. Would be interesting to find out how people are getting on compatability wise with games in 64........
     
  24. dazzyd

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    @ CHAZ without the cooler i get around 55 to 67 degrees. thats also at low fan.

    can somebody also explain why when i try to over clock these 8800gtx it doesnt stick to those values. it justs defaults back to its original..?
     
  25. Automatiic

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    Tomorrow, my 9262 should arrive. The specs are very close to that of Chaz's review model. My specs are:

    Q6700
    4GB RAM
    Dual 8800GTX SLi
    2 x 160GB SATA3 HDD 7200 RPM RAID 0
    Vista x64

    I will test it and give a temp review as well and download 3DMark06 to see the temps under load and idle. Soon, I will be buying a Zalman NC2000 as well because I hear it is an amazing cooler. I'll post as soon as I can.
     
  26. ashveratu

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    These are the drivers I have tried on Vista 64bit and thier 3DMark06 scores. Something I have noticed is that every driver except for the 174.33 version gives a driver stopped responding error (or something like that) when coming out of sleep mode. Not a really big deal from what I can tell. Just an annoying notification window pops up....

    I have played Assassin's Creed (max graphics@1920x1200) with each driver as well and have not noticed any real difference in performance or problems with any of them. I am currently using the 174.33 version because IMO it seems more stable and GPU's run slightly cooler with it. (I always run max fans, temps never get higher than 60c) Other drivers ran a few degrees hotter.

    Driver Ver. 3Dmark06 Score

    174.33, 12347

    174.51, 12515

    174.82, 12677

    174.93, 12461


    All stock clocks....
     
  27. eleron911

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    Sounds to me that Chaz`s unit is running hotter than most of your guys`.
    Maybe his room is hotter than others, but since most of you report max temps of under 70C (even less than that with max fans) sounds to me that 87C is a lot...
     
  28. Automatiic

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    Alright so i promised a review. Here it is.

    Q6700 Stock
    4GB RAM
    2x nVidia 8800M GTX
    2 x 160GB SATA3 HDD 7200 RPM RAID 0
    Vista x64 Home Premium

    Let me start by saying that there is no way a human being was any way involved in the production of this machine. It is literally the most amazing piece of hardware I have ever been around. I am using the 174.82 drivers and my 3DMark06 score was 12477. I am going to check tomorrow and make sure stepping is not enabled. I installed UT3 for lack of a more strenuous game with everything maxed out at 1900x1200 and I had 84 average FPS. My GPU temps never rose over 45C with MAX FANS. Crazy, I know. Granted, I have it propped up on a book so the intake fans have a better airflow and the back of it (where the air is released) is not in front of anything so it isn't sucking warm air back in. Regardless, I just ordered the Zalman NC2000 notebook cooler. All in all, FANTASTIC machine. If anyone could let me know, I am wondering where the option to turn multi-threading on or off is in the NVIDIA control panel. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Hope this helps and I am willing to answer any questions.
     
  29. dazzyd

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    @automatic.. yep this is literrally the best machine i have come across.. everything is just soo fast hehee. oh yeh i have also got it setup on my zalman NC2000 and it is very cool never going above 60 degrees when on medium fans coupled with this cooler.
     
  30. Automatiic

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    How can I tell if my GPU's are downclocking? I have the Q6700, 4 GB RAM, 2x 8800m GTX, Vista Home Premium x64 and I got a 12477 in 3DMark06

    I was just in another forum and some guy got 12528 with one GPU and only the Q6600. Whats up with that?

    http://www.notebookforums.com/showthread.php?p=2894919
     
  31. ARGH

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    your scores are fine and you are not downclocking so don't worry.

    that other guy is doing extreme overclocking through gpu bios flashing wich will burn out the card in about 6 months as he himself stated.
     
  32. Shyster1

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    If I'm not mistaken, I believe that the post you've linked to is a post by none other than our own resident OC genius dexgo. Also, if you noticed, the post where he says he got 12528 on one GPU also states that he had the Q6600 OC'd - as far as I know, he managed to OC it up to about 3GHz, which is just a mite faster than the Q6700 (at stock, AFAIK no-one's figured out how to OC it ... yet :D ) - and, I believe, he also had the GPU OC'd.
     
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    Do you have the individual 3DMark06 scores which got you 12477? Someone asked me on another thread if I could get benchmarks for a Q6700 and I haven't had time unfortunately. I have got a score with SLI and a a Q9550 (just over 14,000) and I'd be interested to see what the gains are in each test over a Q6700.
     
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    ..........
     
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    thanks for all of the replies. i downloaded nvTray and when i try to start it, it says "Sorry, support for this version of Windows is currently unsupported" =/ Im running Vista Home Premium. Also, I'm sorry but no I don't have the individual scores =(
     
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    hi guys.. just a question regarding cpu stepping. im sure i have turned off stepping in the bios (well i think i have) but im not sure. the reason is that my cpu clock speed is saying 1596mhz when idling.. but as soon as i do something strenous it jumps to 2660 mhz is that normal. i thought these were running 2660 default.

    im using cpu-z too watch my clock speeds by the way.
     
  37. dazzyd

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    ^^anyone?? help :confused:
     
  38. OV10stang

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    Yes, that's normal. If you go into the power options(control panel) and change from "portable/laptop" to "Home/Office Desk", it will show(and run) full clock speed all of the time.
     
  39. Charles P. Jefferies

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    That's a low score, you should be getting more than that. I am getting 13700+ with an E8400 and dual 8800M-GTX.

    You can test for overheating by using the full fans feature (Fn + F1) while running the benchmark - it won't downclock that way because the fans will keep everything nice and cool. See what your score is then.

    If your notebook is in fact overheating, email Sager support and ask for a new BIOS.
     
  40. Automatiic

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    nah i use max fans for almost everything. my 9262 has never broken 60C on the GPU's or 55C on the CPU that I've seen and i monitor it a lot. i think you have a higher score bc the E8400 is a better benchmarking/gaming proc b/c the speed on 2 of your cores are faster than on 2 of mine. also, is it safe to run max fans for a few hours while gaming? my NC2000 is coming tomorrow but im just curious
     
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    Hey guys. My NC2000 Laptop cooler just came in and I wanted to see if anyone else has one because... i have the fans maxed out and its barely blowing any air. I propped it up too for better air retrieval and that didnt do anything either> I expected a nice breeze and really, it seems like the air is just floating out of it. Same with you guys?
     
  42. dazzyd

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    Hi automatic. i have the same cooler as you.
    they are not meant to be breezy. just extract air from one place and dump it out the back. the question is though what kinda temp are you getting on your cpu and GPU.. should be below 60 idling for all 3 temps without the laptop fans kicking in. if it is around that then u know that the cooler is working as it shoud. :)
     
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    yeah it is idling near 40C and under load im usually around 69C playing CoD4
     
  44. dazzyd

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    that is bloody good temps ay!! around the same as what i am getting ;)
     
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