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    9262 Sli A Joke?

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Kathman, Apr 8, 2008.

  1. Kathman

    Kathman Notebook Enthusiast

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    Just installed 2nd card and using the latest sager drivers.

    12460 3dmark06 result!

    Justin please tell me what I can do to make my Xotic laptop preform as it should!

    Very little running in the background, harddrive has just been defragged.

    Any ideas guys, I'm going to reformat & test Vista 32 & XP next week, but should I have to?
     
  2. Shyster1

    Shyster1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    OC'ing with dexgo (gawd, that sounds like some sort of bizarre new TV exercise regime :D).
     
  3. dexgo

    dexgo Freedom Fighter

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    yup, you need to sign up for my class :D

    I get pretty much that same score with 1 card
     
  4. aan310

    aan310 Notebook Virtuoso

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    try the drivers from laptopvideo2go.com
     
  5. narsnail

    narsnail Notebook Prophet

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    thats SLI for ya....its not going to double performance...never does....50% if your lucky
     
  6. dexgo

    dexgo Freedom Fighter

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    Sli does work in some cases.

    I have seen it give 80% performance in the right scenario with the right drivers.

    but Clevo isn't that good in the gaming scene.

    Dell has it coverered.

    drivers and all.

    Hopefully they get thier act together soon
     
  7. eleron911

    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

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    Hope will die last. As well as the good drivers :)
     
  8. DFTrance

    DFTrance Notebook Deity

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    Unfortunately I am starting to think that MXMIV for a SLi is a big lemon in d901c.

    We with 8700M GT in SLi suffer a lot of problems in games, so much we are better disabling SLi that enabling it. Sadly, from the other side (Clevo), only silence came out so far.

    It is impressive how a 8800M GTX can play Assassins Creed max settings and resolution. And 2x8700M GT in SLi we have to play with only one card as we get better performance that way (no tearing or stuttering). Having seen this with three games already, I think I was sold a Lemon!

    Trance
     
  9. Shyster1

    Shyster1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Unfortunately DFTrance, I suspect that your problems, such as the stuttering, may be due to the fact that you have an ersatz quad-core CPU and, ultimately, to the massive overhead and performance hits that maintaining cache coherency on the Q6600 and Q6700 causes. Since it's doubtful that either Intel or Microsoft will provide a solution that minimizes that overhead (mainly because the next set of quad-cores Intel will be releasing - Nehalem - will have an L3 cache shared by all 4 cores, thereby making the huge cache coherence latencies go away), your best bet will probably be to get some schooling from dexgo on overclocking the CPU and the FSB to the point where you can at least get rid of the stuttering.
     
  10. bhattsan

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    You should try a resolution higher than the default (or better yet try games ;)) I remember that even at WUXGA, the score doesn't go down that much(like couple 100 pts), which means the test is limited to showing you what the beast is capable of. Maybe crysis at WUXGA high will show the capability of the sli setup, keeping in mind that sli benefits are usually seen at higher resolutions.
     
  11. dexgo

    dexgo Freedom Fighter

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    people are having problems with alot of different processors.

    not just quads.

    Trance, maybe you could try the Tape Mod?

    My temps are totally within spec.

    I did many rounds of tests last night and found that it peaks less than 60 degrees.

    tsmax is 95 degrees for shut-off.

    top spec for the g0 is 71 degrees.

    couldn't hurt to try.

    all I have is the nc1000 and fans set to max.

    played for hours and didn't break 57 degrees in crysis.

    and games seem more fluent and stable now.

    but alas I really think that Clevo is going to come to an END in the Gaming Field Very Soon.

    Compared to Dell now Directly Competing and doing Much better in alot of areas... Looks/Support... etc....

    I mean they encourage overclocking.

    I had to physically mod my laptop to overclock my Processor.

    also they from what we have been seeing they aren't very nice with the Vbios either.

    it seems that they had locked the shaders down and did something very weird that we over at mvktech.net are trying to decypher because the vid-table is like no other card.
     
  12. ARGH

    ARGH Notebook Deity

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    trance, may i suggest you the games that stutter with sli enabled and with v-sync enabled either in game or through hardware to see if that eliminates the stuttering? i have read about other sli users making sure to enable v-sync to get smooth and consistent performance with their sli rigs.
     
  13. DFTrance

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    Thanks for all the suggestions.

    V-Sync enabled does nothing. In Assassins Creed Demo for instance the problem is different then COD4. In the intro scenes when wit SLi enabled at 1400x1050 avatars do not move smoothly on the screen (no stutter but less FPS). If I enable SLi it plays smoothly with the same settings.

    Ill try the CPU Mod when I get home next weekend to see if it helps. The problem I have with the CPU mod is that it is in practical terms permanent (unless you are always opening and closing the case). It would be nice have the ability to do it with software.

    My laptop is mainly for work. Granted in the evening I like to play COD4, but that is 5% of the overall use I give to it. So I need it stable for work.

    Trance
     
  14. darkoroje

    darkoroje Notebook Consultant

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    This is not the case, if you look at CPU reviews all over the net, and my all experience, there is no hit in quad-core processors. The reason why quad-core does little, if anything, for gaming, is that most games are single, or, at best, double threaded. In addition, most games are GPU limited at 1920x1200.

    Forgot to add that AMD just released tri and quad-core processors with an integrated cache for all four cores and their performance in games is worse than Intel quad core, even though they have better memory performance.
     
  15. darkoroje

    darkoroje Notebook Consultant

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    That is not a bad result, my friends M1730 with T9300 gets 11,900 using latest drivers. That is with Vista and no overclocking.
     
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    Aryantes Notebook Evangelist NBR Reviewer

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    I have been benchmarking my new SLI set up.

    So far, with all the games i've tested, Crysis, UT3, CoD4, Bioshock, I've experienced pretty significant improvements with no weird side effects.

    New charts to be posted soon.

    few quick results include, CoD4 max details 1900 4x AA - 71fps average, with all non-AA ones pegging at the maximum 91 fps in game with fraps.

    Bioshock intro area with fire in water is 60-70 fps with inside fps at 100+ 1900 max details.
     
  17. dexgo

    dexgo Freedom Fighter

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    Trance, I have done alot of Testing and have Found that the CPU MOD to be 100% Stable in my situation.

    I put it through a 12 hour torture tests with prime and it didn't flinch.
     
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    _randies_ Notebook Enthusiast

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    I can't wait to see your results! Which drivers are you using?

    I have just installed the latest drivers from Sager for my single card and have noticed a significant improvement in CoD4. I would like to crank up the resolution more and maintain >100fps.
     
  19. Shyster1

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    1) I think you missed the point - I'm not saying quad-cores either do, or should, provide a boost, in gaming or anywhere else - the point is that in some cases the quads actually provide worse performance than the dual-cores in some situations (case in point, the M1730 that's been vexing dexgo so much) because of the additional bus latency penalty imposed by cache coherency transactions.

    In point of fact, that problem would probably be aggravated by a high-end app that was designed to take full advantage of four cores (if the coder didn't also take into account the issues with cache coherency).

    2) Comparing AMD cache to Intel cache is like comparing Venusian apples to Martian oranges - the comparison is totally meaningless unless you've taken into account the radically different cache architectures and coherency protocols used by each. Quite frankly, there are plenty of other more obvious reasons why AMD's current crop of CPUs, single, dual, triple, or quad generally do worse than Intel's current crop of CPUs, and Occam's Razor says that AMD's underperformance is more likely due to one of those than to differences in the cache architecture.
     
  20. ARGH

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    trance, i got this off of the m1730 owners thread. curious if it may work for you regarding games that stutter.

    even though it is for crysis, you should be able to set the d3d setting for your particular game. let me know if it works.