9280(D900F) or 9850?(M980NU) Which way are you leaning and why?

figures that must have been a sales pitch

 

The simple SLI solution for this machine would just be a 280mGX2 . The insides of the machine look like a copper mine so you would think the heat wouldnt be an issue, but im sure its more a power thing then anything else.

 

This is what i was told by the place i ordered my 9280...Did i misunderstand this?...Is he smokin' some good crap or me?

.....The 9280 is capable of SLI but the dual video cards are not yet available. You will always be able to purchase the second graphics card separately later on. Hope this helps.....

 

1x slot means 1x gpu, end of story. It doesn't matter how many you buy, only 1 will fit in your d900f

 

ok thanks guys

 

....unless there is a GTX 295M but still will the power supply be able to do it ?

 

Dude, D901F only have 1 slot for GPU card...
So even if there is GTX 295m and the power requirement is OK, you still can't have 2-card SLI.

 

Ya my idea was more the Dual GPU on one PCB hence 280mGX2.

 

We have to wait until ATI really beat the crap out of Nvidia current mobile GPU. If that happens, Nvidia hopefully will retaliate by producing "The Real McCoy" mobile version of GTX 280 (or even 295).

 

not enough room quad...unless the angled it to fit over the ram.....
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=377296

 

Hi Justin,
thanks for your quick and thorough reply.

You say the bios doesn't have overclocking options? So, it's more a software than a hardware issue, and the i7 965 could potentially become overclockable with a new bios?

That's great that putting in our own HDDs / Blu-ray isn't a problem, good to know.

I'll check out the 9262 screen. I'm not a friend of glossy screens at all though, that's actually my main concern with this notebook.

My second concern is the heat and/or fan noise. Do you have any specs on that yet? A desktop CPU + a pretty much desktop GPU + 3 HDDs are likely to produce a massive amount of heat. How many fans are there and how much dB of noise do they produce? Will there be an option to invest in more silent fans at all?

Also, do you have any info on battery life? ie. how long when watching a DVD and how long on 100% processor usage?

Thanks for the link to safeware.com, unfortunately that's only for US customers. Is there an equal in the UK?

Thanks for your help,
Schinkster

 

Hey all,
I know this isnt pertaining to the SLI possibility of either machine, but does anyone have some info about the CATV hookup on the 9280? is it pre-wired with internal tuner, or whats the deal there? thanks

 

Anyone know how loud the Bluray drive runs in the 9280?? someone else on here said the Bluray drive in their 8662 ran ungodly loud...

 

M980NU is a "normal" mobile platform so i think it at least have a chance to overclock with setfsb what don't look to be the case with the D900F (if it's like the D900C lol).

Why block overclock thats the question .

 

when dealing with clevo..they seem to not want folks over clocking their high end machines. "we" are hoping that changes with the d900f and the m980nu.
and it doesn't matter if it's desktop or mobile, clevo really hasn't been offering over clocking. "we" are hoping that changes after they see how it helped sales of the whitebook/w90/msi 725.

if they supported over clocking then there would be no question as to who is king of laptops....without it...they will never keep or regain the title.

 

I just want a notebook what can overclock, have core i7, and can make SLI or Xfire... is this ask too much?!

If anyone manage to find a way to overclock the D900F it will be the ultimate laptop without any doubt.

 

The Sager NP5797 BIOS will allow you to overclock the X9100 and QX9300 by 1x or 2x but it is a single GPU machine.

Do not be surprised if the M980NU will allow CPU 1x or 2x overclocking for the Extreme processors.

 

I won't be surprised. In fact, I will be thankful.

 

i second that.

 

The 9250, I got for Performance all they way. Besides i don't think we need a Core i7 in a laptop yet. What we need is to get SLI in smaller systems than large systems with good CPU's and one GPU.

Still they should keep the D901C on sale. That DTR is the best in my opinion.

 

Wait a minute, if I'm not mistaken, Clevo M980NU = Sager NP9850, not 9250...

 

D900C = Sager NP9260/1/2
D900F = Sager NP9280
M980NU = Sager NP9250

If I'm not mistaken.

 

I thought it was:

D900C = Sager NP9260/1/2
D900F = Sager NP9280
M980NU = Sager NP9850

Any reseller want to chime in?

 

Yeah, my thought is the same as theriko...

Clevo M860 = Sager NP8660
Clevo M570 = Sager NP5797
Clevo M980 = Sager NP9850
Clevo D900C = Sager NP9260
Clevo D900F = Sager NP9280

 

Sorry if it has been already posted but here is a review of the D900F.

Edit: Yes, it has been already posted, my apologise. The price tag is rather step for that configuration.

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13626&Itemid=1

 

3D mark about the same as the 8800mgtx sli in this test. We will see...

 

Well, i´m leaning (going to buy, more precisely) towards the D900F!! A single 280m will be enough for my gaming needs, while the i7 is really needed for CAD/CAM, rendering, etc... Having a 2.2Ghz C2D now, the diference going to a i7 will be enormous!!!

 

for 3dmark06, but i bet there's a difference in vantage.

 

them graphs from germany always confuse us as how is the 9800gts higher than the 9800gt
even though its in black and white (ok,green and yellow) i will still wait to make my mind up.

 

Most likely because of the CPU. We need to move to Vantage .

 

Hmm, the score difference between QX and i7 is not that far...
The difference could be smaller if QX and i7 tested have the same clock.

 

that's because they used a mobile qx...they should have used a desktop qx9650....

 

I know...
My point is, Core i7 performance is not that stellar.

 

lets recap...
i7 is geared more for the workstation enthusiast. and it can game if need be.
example:
encoding
dual core 1hr
quad core 24 minutes
i7 11 minutes

 

That has nothing to do with it... it's the difference for the dedicated cores and hyperthreading... you would see the difference in Cad work or video editing and possibly even gaming... It also has virtualized cores an additional 4 to help work on certain processes, that is why it's a step up from the standard quad cores

High five john, high five

 

well, i'm talking about gaming performance according to 3DMark 06 posted above, not general performance
So, where's my high five?

 

wrong example then xor01...if we could over clock the i7 in 3dmark06...the gtx280m would be around 15k for a single card...
a non over clocked qx9650 and 9800m gtx scores 13.6k.....

MrButterBiscuits
man, im waiting to pick up my new parts..hopefully they will be in tomorrow.
i7 2.66
6gb ocz 2000 mhz ram
gigabyte GA-EX58-UD5 (rev. 1.0) mother board

 

Air five for you... lol But more and more lately I have been leading away from 3dmark scores... Vantage is still a good benchmark, but I think performance in games and applications speaks volumes more about a computer than benchmarks

 

i only run 3dmark to keep with those that dont want to pay to run vantage.
vantagemark is far better than 3dmark.

high five back atcha!

high five to xor01 for at keeping the faith...lol

 

Dammn, I just realize that I made a typos...

What I meant was:
"well, i'm talking about gaming performance according to PCMark Vantage posted above, not general performance."

And so, my point was Core i7 gaming performance doesn't have a big gap compared to Core 2 Duo or Quad.

 

I wonder if you will be able to upgrade to this :

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13635&Itemid=1

in one year. Looks like doable.

 

things are looking up for the 9262...
3.33GHz Bloomfield 45nm quad-core

 

Yeah, lol, I didn't notice the Bloomfield

 

that extra 330 mhz could make all the difference in the world....
i would for sure upgrade with that.

 

Another reason not to upgrade to D901F, I assume?

 

ill let cha know after i get my i7 desktop up and running... should be in a few days...

 

I would want tp upgrade to 3.33GHz Bloomfield 45nm quad-core. i would also need a BIOS upgrade?

 

im thinking that chip is do able in the 9262. if it wasn't designed to run a qx9650, then why have it in the bios? yep...im thinking it's very do able.

 

The NP9262 does not use the X58 chipset so that processor won't work with it.

The NP9280 does use the X58 chipset...so there is your potential upgrade candidate.