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    95% Color Gamut Screen Calibration

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Epsilon748, Oct 9, 2011.

  1. Epsilon748

    Epsilon748 Notebook Evangelist

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    Like many others here, I upgraded to the 95% color gamut. (In my case after purchase, but MALIBAL gave me an awesome price on it). The Spyder 3 is probably out of the price reach of many, but there is a trick to getting it for free.

    If you're a university student and your campus has a photography or arts department, check with them to see if they have and will let you borrow one of their calibration units.

    My school, for example, had two different units available that I was able to borrow as needed:

    ColorMunki
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  2. equilibrium1736

    equilibrium1736 Notebook Geek

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    Using a LED back lit laptop monitor for color accuracy is not the best solution. You need an external IPS LCD monitor or CRT which is designed for these applications.
     
  3. TheHansTheDampf

    TheHansTheDampf Notebook Evangelist

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    I was just wondering, given i like screens etc, but I am no way a professional, will I be able to tell a difference, i.e. calibrated vs. non-calibrated?
     
  4. mythlogic

    mythlogic Company Representative

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    I beg to differ on that one. The 95% gamut screens can be VERY highly color accurate. They are more than just white LED. We've calibrated them to less than 1 deltaE, and have a gamut that far exceeds sRGB and can approach aRGB.

    TheHans, yes you will be able to tell the difference between the calibrated and uncalibrated, the uncalibrated will tend to be a bit over saturated than that calibrated which will be a bit cooler and much more accurate colors.
     
  5. lzykocp1002

    lzykocp1002 Notebook Consultant

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    i agree with myth, a colorimeter doesn't care what panel you run, it's purpose is to get the colors to a lowest delta within the precalibrated puck, lower grade panels obviously wont shine as much in real world performance but the machine tunes it to make it as best as it can be.

    my personal recommendation though is to use 2 pucks, 1 precalibrated for wide gamut and another for sRGB. conducted tests proven it to be the best for each panel within maximum delta being 3

    edit: btw don't forget that your puck degrades over time, i'm not sure quality wise of specifics of various pucks but i do know that eye one display 2 has these symptoms and maybe even spyder 3, spyder 3 express/pro/elite all use same puck btw.
     
  6. TheHansTheDampf

    TheHansTheDampf Notebook Evangelist

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    I am surprised to hear i would actually be able to see it.
    Now I need to find a place that can do it. Any thoughts where I can get this done?

    I read universities before. Any other thoughts?
     
  7. dave1812

    dave1812 Notebook Deity

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    baloney! as an avid photographer, I can attest to the excellent color accuracy and wide gamut of the 95% screen, once it is calibrated.
     
  8. Hubris2

    Hubris2 Notebook Consultant

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    If you have any friends who work in a graphic design capacity, they would also have access to something.
     
  9. Drew3170

    Drew3170 Notebook Guru

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    How do I load an ICC profile? My laptop was calibrated when I bought it and came with a disc with an ICC profile.
     
  10. J.P.@XoticPC

    J.P.@XoticPC Company Representative

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    Kuril Notebook Geek

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    Speaking of ICC profiles, would anybody who gets their monitor calibrated mind posting it here so everybody can use it? :)
     
  12. Larry@LPC-Digital

    Larry@LPC-Digital Company Representative

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    For the best results the screen calibration should be done in your own environment, with your lighting and such, in your room or area of you using the laptop.

    Doing this in a factory setting and such you will find it lacking the best results. :)
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  13. dave1812

    dave1812 Notebook Deity

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    waste of time.
     
  14. supralover23

    supralover23 Notebook Consultant

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    :rolleyes: Can you guess which one was the worthless response?
     
  15. yhchoong

    yhchoong Notebook Consultant

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    I would post if someone could point me to a proper uploading site that doesn't expire quickly.

    Mine is calibrated by an i1display pro to native white levels, native contrast, native luminance (for multimedia playback, I use 120 when I do my photography editting) and sRGB or Gamma 2.2 (I have a few separate profiles, the difference between sRGB and Gamma 2.2 lies in the shadow details, with sRGB being a lot more tame).
     
  16. dave1812

    dave1812 Notebook Deity

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    You don't understand calibration, do you? If you did, you would UNDERSTAND why I said it's as waste of time to use a calibration created on a different screen. I have quite a few monitors and NONE OF THEM give proper color with cals done on anything but their own screen. there is too much variation in screens (even the SAME MODEL) for anyone interested in ACCURATE COLOR, to be using a cal made on a different screen, even if said screen is the same model.
     
  17. J.P.@XoticPC

    J.P.@XoticPC Company Representative

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  18. Ryan

    Ryan NBR Moderator

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    There are some sample calibration profiles made by Sager, you can try them out and see if any of them fit for your screen,

    although as dave states, all screens are different.

    Software Upgrade
     
  19. supralover23

    supralover23 Notebook Consultant

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    See, now that was actually a fairly useful post. Try doing that first next time :rolleyes:
     
  20. dave1812

    dave1812 Notebook Deity

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    try not being rude next time, ok?
     
  21. yhchoong

    yhchoong Notebook Consultant

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    dave, as a fellow photographer, I understand what colour accuracy means to you. I guess when people want icc profiles, all they are looking for are more options to play around with what looks best to them so that they could make a choice, rather than something that is downright accurate :)

    Those who are really particular about colour accuracy would have already bought their own colorimeter/spectrometer.

    Anyway to those who would like my icc profiles, here they are:

    B156HW01 V4 Native Gamma 2.2
    B156HW01 V4 Native sRGB

    I would recommend the sRGB one, as while being very similar yet different from Gamma 2.2, it is the de facto standard for images displayed on the web. Also, programs which are non-colour aware also tend to handle them better (of which windows photo viewer is one).
     
  22. hotblack_desiato

    hotblack_desiato Notebook Consultant

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    this thread has gotten angsty since the last time I was here.
     
  23. Ryan

    Ryan NBR Moderator

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    Be nice, guys.

    We all have bad days, but technically try to keep manners online.

    BTW, to add to this thread, I personally like the uncalibrated screen.. is this normal? I tried to calibrate, and the colors seemed too toned-down for my liking.

    Does anyone else feel the same way?
     
  24. dave1812

    dave1812 Notebook Deity

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    your comment illustrates the folly of using someone else's calibration file: if you had my Sager, you'd be unlikely to like it "out of the box". Mine is excessively red.

    Think of it this way. One cook makes your favorite soup for you. they make great soup, but they always under-salt it, so you are in the habit of adding salt. Another cook, making the same soup, makes it with a ton of salt. Do you think you'd like the second soup if you added salt to it before tasting it? (ie, the POINT is that the starting point for calibration, isn't the same from one sample to another and that's why you have to apply SPECIFIC calibration to get it right).
     
  25. Ryan

    Ryan NBR Moderator

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    Yup, I know, and I just wanted to show others who may consider calibration profiles as something that is universal. Rather than using the Sager's profiles, it's better off not to use them at all..
     
  26. godlyatheist

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    I just bought a Spyder4Pro to calibrate my display and the results are disappointing. There is a very strong green tint on the who screen that gets progressively worse with vertical angle change (moving head). What could cause this? I tried it on a crappy Lenovo U430 with a junk Chimei panel(64% sRGB color coverage) and it did a why better job making the colors too better, although the entire is color range is a bit colder than stock. One thing I noticed on the Lenovo is that when I plugged the Spyder in the software asked me what kind of gamut screen the LCD is and the make+model. It didn't ask on the AUO panel.
     
  27. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    I would say it was likely a setting issue, you could try contacting their support for advice.