95% Gamut Matte Screen issue

hello,

The issue im having , or maybe it may not be but when ever im watchin tv shows which have black shirts or black backgrounds or anything black or extremely dark, it doesn't blend well ,it may be because i haven't calibrated but the screen overall is fine, just the dark or black stuff during shows, it also happens on youtube , it doesn't not happen in games or anything 3d rendered.

thanks

System Specs:

NP8150/P150hm
GTX 485
I7-2630Qm
16 GIG ram

 

can u describe "doesn't blend well"? I've never heard that phrase before with respect to monitors.

 

ya i was thinking about that before sleeping, when it switches to a dark screen quickly , i get a small blotch of connected squares of dark grey, and when watching low res shows, black clothing became sorted of pixelated (not like quality pixelation but the color) since it as a 480p vid, i think that may be the problem from the start but i think i fixed by just turning up the contrast 7% from original , now it seems fine but there still is a hint of it but in 720p and 1080p videos it is fine now so i just wondering if its jus the video.

 

Maybe take a video of what is happening?

 

IMG 0160 - YouTube

it really hard to tell but its at the end of the video with when they go inside the atom ...

 

"it doesn't not happen in games or anything 3d rendered"

Do you mean that it does or does not happen during games?

It sounds like video compression artifacts to me. If it doesn't happen in games than this is almost certainly the issue.

 

it doesn't happen in games, so it is just the video i guess?

 

I disagree. I have the same screen matte as you and I have noticed it before in my screen. Same thing, none of it during gaming, only happens outside of the gaming. So basically for example, there is a black background. Then I hover my white mouse arrow across the black background, you can see the faint discolored like a mix of black with white then fades away behind the arrow pointer trail. It's like when you are on shrooms and you turn your head quickly, the lights will be like a glow trail. It's minimal but I do notice it.

 

thx i was just wondering but i guess it nothing to worry about, also after i increased the contrast it really hard to notice but still there ... thx guys

 

I have a similar issue and I am planning to RMA. I have a feeling these issues are defect panels. But I really don't know :S

 

i don't think its defective , i got mine for rjtech and i have the LEN40B2 version and it a really good screen except when it comes to videos and pictures , it does well but then sometimes the dark areas don't blend well ... meh i think we just need to calibrate the screen

 

If it doesn't happen in 3D, but only with videos and pictures, then it's probably driver-related. Those screens are more precise colorwise, so a slight misadjustment in color calibration may show more clearly.
That's what I think, but I'm no expert in screen technologies and digital imagery.

 

I should be getting an 8130 with the 95% matte screen either this Friday or next Monday/Tuesday. I've heard a lot of problems recently with ghosting and other issues, hopefully mine doesn't have it. I'll be sure to post so we can see if there's a bunch of bad screens being sent out.

 

Spoke with Mythlogic about this today, and they are convinced it is a calibration issue, as they've had no complaints about the 95% matte screens they've sent out. I'm going to keep my order as-is. When my order arrives, I'll also post back here with feedback.

 

Will definately be looking out for your review because ill be throwing down some cash there as well if calibration is all that is needed.

 

Doesn't calibration have to be done regularly (like monthly) for best results?

 

I've never heard of calibration having to be repeated monthly.

It should be just a case-by-case thing for each screen, but once it is calibrated, there should be no need to do it again..

 

how does the spyder work?

it looks like a waste of money that sits on your screen for a few minutes and is never used again.

 

I wouldn't consider it a waste, any more than spending money on a nice meal. After all, in 3 or 4 hours, you'll be hungry again, so does that mean the money spent on the meal was a waste??

It's necessary if you need accurate color if like me, you are a serious photographer who needs to see the same colors on the screen as when you print, or send a file off to a service for printing. If you don't need that kind of color accuracy, I suggest you don't (as you put it) waste your money.

 

This is wrong, because LED backlights do lose their brightness over time, and that affects the hue of colours among other things.

The better calibrators do have inbuilt software reminders reminding you to calibrate from time to time (perhaps fortnightly), and also allow you to view how the deltaE of colours had drifted since the last calibration. DeltaE is a measure of colour error.

On a side-note, the better calibrators are the ionedisplay pro or colormunki display. Even then, they are not at the top of the hierachy and even the colorimeters themselves will lose their calibration over a period of years and may need to be sent back for factory re-calibration.

There's a lot more to it then it seems when it comes to proper colour profiling.

 

for a calibration should i get the spyder 3 pro, elite, or express? if i do decide get a calibration device

 

The cheapest one will do for the majority of users, especially if it's just the Sager screen you're calibrating.

 

elite. it includes gamma.

 

Just curious, do you often go beyond the standard gamma 1.8, 2.2 or 2.5?

 

no, but after reading the reviews I decided it wouldn't be smart for me to cheap-out and get the lesser model. I have so much money on camera equipment that a few dollars on a Spyder is a drop in the bucket.

 

so if i want to get the cheapest hardware , will the calibration quality be way worse than the elite or just slightly unnoticeable?

 

It's unnoticeable to the untrained eye - you have to know exactly what you're looking for and look hard for it to spot the difference.

The biggest difference in price is usually due to software, though there may be slight hardware differences per se such as additional sensors for extra software-based colour tweaks.

 

I'm a professional calibrator and what you are saying is correct. And as far as those items not being top of the hierarchy, that is definitely true. When I get my screen in I'll be using a $5000 colorimeter from work with the CalPC software. Should be good after that

 

I just received my machine, and I noticed the red-ghosting issue while installing Win 7. I had a grey dialogue box on a black screen. When I closed it, a red gost hung around for a few seconds before fading out.

Very odd. Hoping calibration fixes it.

 

Now the puzzling thing is that the Lenovo W520 uses the exact same screen for their FHD upgrade, but it seems that no one on their side have made specific mention to this ghosting issue.

Furthermore, the W520 is a workstation model specially catered to professionals, especially photographers and video-graphers on-the-go, so by right they should be more critical of the screen than the general Sager user.

 

So it just has a really crummy calibration to begin with?

 

It looks like Lenovo handles the calibration issue better than Sager does, since Lenovo owners have not complained about the ghosting issue to the same extent as Sager owners have.

I'm itching to pull the trigger but I'm waiting for Sager or Clevo to resolve the issue with the 95% gamut screens or for the v1 stock matte screen to be available again--whichever comes first.

 

Ok, I had posted on the Lenovo W520 owner's thread and got 2 replies, both of which stated that there were absolutely no problems with their FHD displays.

So this does seem to be a purely Sager issue. I really hope it's just the calibration or something that's off, though calibration looks to be a mixed bag as someone somewhere have posted that it helps and for others, no.

I do know that Mythologic calibrates the screens before shipping, so perhaps someone who got their wide gamut screen from them could chime in regarding this issue.

 

Screen looks better without the Sager profiles.