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    95% Matte ICC Profile (If you don't hardware calibrator)

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Zymphad, Oct 29, 2012.

  1. Zymphad

    Zymphad Zymphad

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    I know there are lots of threads about ICC Profiles, but didn't feel like digging em up, call me lazy.

    I have attached a number of different profiles, ranging from Sager supplied, and Thinkpad owners. All of them are hardware calibrated, Spyder from Sager and believe the Lenovo owners used some seriously expensive calibrators by Pantone.

    The XYZ Lutz one I do not recommend using unless the program you are using supports it. Otherwise on programs like FireFox for example, the colors will be wrong. The XYZ is good if you are using an application that supports custom color profiles, and it supports XYZ.

    *DISCLAIMER* These are not the most accurate for your display. These are calibrations from others who own the 95% Matte AOU display. The differences among the displays should be minimal but can fluctuate. I only list the tutorial on how to change and the profiles in case you want to get something as close to being calibrated, because you don't want to spend $200 on calibrator.

    - Download and unzip the attached profiles. Right click and Install Profile, the profiles you want to use. Personally I like the dispcalGUI (not XYZLUT). The NP813_5_LEN40B2 is the Sager supplied that a lot of NBR members prefer.
    - Go to your Control Panel and click on Color Management
    - Now check off Use my settings for this device and add the profile you want.
    - Now click the advanced tab and click Change system defaults... this will open up another Color Management Windows
    - Go to advanced in the new window and make sure Use Windows display calibration is checked.

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  2. Coca

    Coca Notebook Consultant

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    Can I try this profile in Windows 8 ? or this ICC profile only for Windows 7 ?
     
  3. Support.1@XOTIC PC

    Support.1@XOTIC PC Company Representative

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    You should be able to reuse the ICC profile in WIn 8 by placing it in the same or similar directory.

    \Windows\system32\spool\drivers\color
     
  4. Zymphad

    Zymphad Zymphad

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    Yes works great on Windows 8. Follow the same method. Right click the profile and click on install profile or just double click it.

    Also edited OP to provide a guide instead of an external link.
     
  5. Coca

    Coca Notebook Consultant

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    thanks a lot !

    Great Result !
     
  6. yegg55

    yegg55 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Maybe someone will like this ICC profile... On my P150EM with the graphics card 7970m and display LG Philips LP156WF1 (LGD02D9 [DELL P/N: MC6JN]) looks great!
    NP813_5_LEN40B2_Matte_95_NV_V2.icc(Found somewhere on open spaces of this forum))
     
  7. hackness

    hackness Notebook Virtuoso

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    Black level is great but somehow the whole screen looks a little too warm, guess I'll stick to my own profile.
     
  8. hackness

    hackness Notebook Virtuoso

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    @yegg55
    The ICC you posted looks a little less warmer than the one hulawafu77 posted, black level etc look similar.
     
  9. gaidin43

    gaidin43 Notebook Evangelist

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    Do it matter what display or GpU you have for these profiles?

    I have a think pad display 95% and a 670m.
     
  10. Mikaelft

    Mikaelft Notebook Consultant

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    I like TPLCD95.icm best :)
     
  11. Zymphad

    Zymphad Zymphad

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    :cry: :eek2: :no: :mask: :nah: :mad2: :confused2: :err: :swoon:

    http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/W-Serie...-supplied-by-Lenovo-is-wrong-sRGB/td-p/424517
     
  12. Mikaelft

    Mikaelft Notebook Consultant

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  13. Zymphad

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    Please let us know how you calibrated it. People using these profile are interested in what gives the correct color, closest possible without having to run out and buy a professional hardware calibrator.

    The one I listed was from a Lenvo W530 user who used a hardware calibrator, and images/photography is his job.
     
  14. Meaker@Sager

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    Why not buy one and ship it round everyone each month :p
     
  15. Mikaelft

    Mikaelft Notebook Consultant

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    Sorry for the misunderstanding.. I didn't use any hardware tools. I clicked "calibrate screen" in Windows and did step by step...
     
  16. Zymphad

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    I can say for certainty, your calibration is not accurate at all. I did mention before, the profiles I attached were calibrated by others, doesn't mean it will be accurate on your screen, but it's the closest you'll get unless you decide to spend $99-400 euros on hardware calibrator.

    There is nothing wrong with using the profile you listed, if you are not doing imaging/photo editing etc, just for your own personal pleasure, but just letting you know, it's not accurate. You like your colors very saturated with hint of blue tint.

    The profiles I attached are from Sager, and Lenovo owners who use the same AOU 95% Matte display. The Sager one I know used Spyder, the others I believe used the more expensive calibrators that cost 2-3X that of Spyder.
     
  17. Zymphad

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    That would be a great idea, but for now this is fine. If Clevo/Sager starts supplying better quality IPS displays with the same gamut, then yes, I think it would be wort it for me to buy a Pantone calibrator, and ship it around to those I trust and we can all upload profiles. But for now, on these TN 95% panels, I don't think it's worth it. But I'm also not interested in the 60% gamut IPS panels that Lenovo, Sony etc had used in the past either.
     
  18. Mikaelft

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    Try this program and see for yourself..
    QuickMonitorProfile

    QuickMonitorProfile is a tool to create ICC / ICM monitor profiles to be used for color management.
    At program start "QuickMonitorProfile" reads the chromaticity values of all attached monitors, adds the monitor names to the "Monitor" list box and adds the entry "Installed monitor" for the selected monitor to the "Chromaticity coordinates" list.

    It created this profile. I have a LEN40B2 screen:
    View attachment ThinkPad Display 1920x1080.zip
     
  19. Meaker@Sager

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    Hand tuning your own is likely to give you the best results compared to someone else's file unless you really suck at colour recognition, but then even a calibrated monitor wont help you...
     
  20. Zymphad

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    Yes I am aware of that program and it's terrible. The profile you posted is no different the default sRGB which is WRONG for your panel.

    This is not the right thread for you and your replies are the EXACT OPPOSITE of what this thread is about. You do not like properly calibrated colors, you like over-saturated blue tinted colors. Whatever, but that's not what this is thread is for.

    It would be a shame if someone comes looking for a ICC profile to calibrate their panel as best they can, and they see all the profiles you link, cause those would be the exact opposite of what they were looking for.
     
  21. Mikaelft

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    What .inf files do you use for the 95% gamut screen? (LEN40B2)
     
  22. Zymphad

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    There is no special drivers for the monitor. The Lenovo display driver from Windows Update is no different than the default Plug n Play and makes zero difference.

    It's also NOT a LEN40B2. Clevo has nothing to do with Lenovo. It's an AUO B156HW01 V4. AUO makes the panels, NOT Lenovo.

    You do not have a different panel. EVERYONE who as matte 95% panel from Clevo has an AUO B156HW01 V4. And the variations among all of them is miniscule. The profiles you prefer are highly saturated, blue tinted and colors very wrong for your panel. Your panel is not different or special, you just prefer colors that are inaccurate and incorrect.
     
  23. Mikaelft

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    Ah, thanks. Windows 8 have recognised it as Thinkpad Display 1920x1080 (properties shows: MONITOR\LEN40B2).
     
  24. Zymphad

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    Yes I know, I did say the Lenovo display drivers from Windows Update are meaningless, it's no different than the default plug n play with the default srgb profile.
     
  25. Mikaelft

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    95 ICM.zip cant be downloaded :/
     
  26. cn_habs

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    After downloading the zip file, when I double click on there it says: