9800M GT 55nm release?

Fact or fiction? I've seen a bunch of report and various postings saying that there "might" be a release of a 55nm 1gig card...anyone know anything?

http://www.compatdb.org/support/topics/180087_nvidia_55nm_mobile_graphics_cards_unveiled.html

 

I sure hope it's true, and available for when I get my laptop =]

 

Fact

Whether it will be called the 9800M GT or not, I don't think so. At least I hope not. Perhaps 9800M GT+ or 9850M GT or the like.

My opinion of 1GB? Waste of money to put it on the card. If they are keeping a 256-bit bus and the 96-shaders, there will not be enough processing power to take advantage of that. Were they to incorporate 512-bit bus, then we'd likely see a decent performance gain. In past benchmarks of desktop cards, the 1Gb models performed only fractions better when compared to equal 512mb counterparts.

But 55nm is a wonderful step. Lower power consumption, cooler temperatures, increased stability, faster stock clocks, and better OC. Now when nVidia decides to drop the silicon process and start moving to High-K tech, I think we'll start seeing some phenomenal mobile performance.

 

^ah,dreams....

 

IMO we are already very well on the way, with nice performance in mobile packs OFC an advancement to 55 nm will take it yet a step in the right direction But gaming notebooks today already packs power of an average desktop, plenty for me at the moment atleast tbh I think I bought my last desktop 4 years ago...

 

Well the 9800M GTX overclocked has more theoritical processing power than the 8800 GT desktop card from last year. One more revision to the mobile card and we'll see mobile performance comparable to the 8800 GT, which is quite impressive.

Stock:
9800M GTX: 420Gflops
9800M GTX OC: 509Gflops
8800 GT : 506Gflops

 

The news has been out for sometime now, zfactor has mentioned this on several occasions.

 

Would a lower power consumption card such as the 9800M GT 55nm be compatible inside the M860TU, you think?

 

The 9800M GT already is available for the M860TU... but I'll assume you mean the GTX. In that case, yes, I would definately say it should work. Besides, the GTX in the M570TU stock maxes around 65C in a warm room.

 

Yeah, I meant the GTX. Sorry! Already opted for the GT in my laptop. People have been reporting some good benchmarks on it. I'm assuming the GTX will be just slightly ahead... not by a significant amount?

 

Hopefully this refresh will include the so-wanted 512-Bit Bus and won't be just a refresh like the original 9800m GT was, and that they increase the stock clocks a bit too.

 

there will be nothing new. nvidia is releasing the updated 9800gt yes but it will be the same card with 55nm instead of 65. nothing more will change. they are doing this for the upcoming rename of these cards they will not longer be called 9800gt or 9800gtx or 8800gtx etc they will be the same cards with a whole naming scheme.. they will im sure drag these out into at least qt 2 of next year

 

Chicago (IL) – Nvidia will be dropping the 8000- and 9000-series names

Following a recent announcement that the company would lay off about 7% of its staff, it seems that Nvidia is busy bringing the company back on track. Rumor has it that the company will be announcing additional graphics cards in the GT200 series on October 15. Coinciding with the product launch, Nvidia is expected to depart from its sequence numbering system of the 8000- and 9000-series and transition to a system that is in line with the GT200 series.

Industry sources told TG Daily that while the 8000 series is being phased out, all 55 nm 9000-series GPUs will carry a G100-series name. By the end of 2008, Nvidia will be offering today’s 9000 series as G100, GT120, GT130, GT140 and GT150 models.

When the 2009 45 nm GPUs arrive, which seems to be the case around Q1 or Q2, Nvidia will have fully transitioned to the new branding structure: Enthusiast GPUs will be integrated into the GTX200-series, performance GPUs into the GT200-series, mainstream GPUs into the GS200-series and entry-level products into the G200-series.

The new branding should clear up some of the confusion in Nvidia’s product lineup today.

 

I wish... as long as they don't name the cards stupidly like GTX200GT or GT200GTX.

 

Well I don't think anyone would expect major gains, but you will see FPS improvement when using higher('ultra') textures!

256bit bus + 50% more VRAM = faster frames when loading with those extreme texture packs (Company of Heroes 'Ultra' for example, and I bet Bethesda's Fallout 3, because Oblivion loved more VRAM)

You make more VRAM sound like a bad thing

 

and the GTS200M GT or the GTX200 GT or GT200 GTX

 

Makes perfect sense the way it is. Why change it?

 

Thanks zfactor. I already knew about the GT200 but I must have missed the 100 part somewhere along the way.

Hmm..."end of 2008" well considering what's been happening at nVidia lately I won't be holding my breath on that.

 

"Released" by the end of 2008 means that they probably won't be in laptops until February

I guess I'll be sticking with a 9800GTS then. Maybe I'll get a 570TU instead.

 

Meh, hopefully ATI is available in Clevo's by 2009, the 4850/70 beta cips are looking good (check sig ).

 

So what chip is that supposed to be, and what leads you to believe it will fit in the M860TU?

 

I got linked to this through Zatara214 so thanks for the tip man. This is from Laptopvideo2go:

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Nvidia sticks new names on old cards, hopes no one will notice

Re-named and shamed

By Sylvie Barak: Friday, 03 October 2008, 5:53 PM

AS IF ITS OLD naming scheme wasn’t complex enough, Nvidia has gone and done it again, hoping that by adding a few more Gs 'n' T and Ss into the mix, it can make its old cards seem more appealing.

Rumours of the Nvidia name shuffle have been floating around for a while now, but today a VR-Zone forum thread established that a file in the Forceware 178.15 beta graphics drivers did indeed have details about the changes.

Apparently, the Nvidia_G92.DEV_0615.1 is to become Nvidia Geforce GTS 150, whilst Nvidia_G94.DEV_0626.1 becomes Nvidia Geforce GT 130 and Nvidia_G96.DEV_0646.1 magically transforms into Nvidia Geforce GT 120.

The re-branding will reportedly apply to all 55nm GeForce 9-series cards although it remains unclear whether current cards will also get the peel-off-old-and-stick-on-new-name sticker treatment.

So, to follow what appears to be Nvidia’s bizarrely-complicated and irrelevant re-naming process, the Geforce GTS 150 is a die-shrunk Geforce 9800 GTX+ which is a faster Geforce 9800 GTX which is a faster 8800 GTS 512.

Similarly, a Geforce GT(S) 1xx is a die-shrunk Geforce 9800 GT which is just a Geforce 8800 GT with Hybridpower.

Lost yet? Wait, there’s more.

Apparently the Geforce 9600 GSO is a renamed GeForce 8800 GS, the Geforce GT 130 is a die-shrunk Geforce 9600 GT and the Geforce GT 120 is a die-shrunk Geforce 9500 GT. Feeling green with nausea?

It is also important to bear in mind that the 9800GTX+ is 55nm, so it really is ONLY getting a name change. Also, despite the fact that most 9800GTXs are 65nm, there are also 55nm 9800GTXs, so they’re also only getting rebranded.

The INQ asked Nvidia if it cared to comment as to why it had to renamed the cards. We suggested it sounded like a case of flogging old lamps as new.

In trying to shift a whole load of parts sloshing about the channel due to them no longer being competitive, re-labelling them seemed lthe easiest way to go about things, apparently.

We politely waited all day for a response which we didn’t receive.

If Nvidia thinks it can change a few names and hoodwink card-buyers into buying cards with neither boosted performance or lower prices, the firm, obviously, still has much to learn about the name of the game. µ

I've noticed more and more of late, renaming of GPU's, not sure why there even needs to be so many models with the same device number
GS, GSO, GT, GTS, GTX, GTX+ .... and then for each model as well.
I don't think it's doing the end user any good flooding us with confusion."

 

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