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    9800gt = $595 ????

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by sujinge9, Nov 23, 2009.

  1. sujinge9

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    So sent in my laptop because the screen would black out at random times. And today I was told that "They have found the GPU to be bad and the replacement price is $595 + Shipping." I guess since I can't find 9800m gt anywhere on the internet they pretty much have a monopoly on the supply so they can charge w/e they want. But seriously? An OCed gtx 295 doesn't even scrap the 600 line. furthermore, theres some black spots that evidently are UNDER the screen so they can't be removed. Sigh... now I'm just ranting..

    So does anyone know if I can get it for cheaper or something. idk anymore. I need my laptop back for school after thanksgiving... but wow... 600 bucks...
     
  2. Soviet Sunrise

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  3. sujinge9

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  4. Soviet Sunrise

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    That card is only compatible with the Dell XPS M1730. It will not fit in any other notebook.

    Bargain with sip and ask if he can sell it for $420 shipped.
     
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    You could also buy a GTX 280M with a heatsink assembly for $595 from RJTech.
     
  6. sujinge9

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    hahaha now I really feel like I'm being ripped off. Thanks for the find.

    @soviet

    probably could get it a bit lower if we do it off ebay. How does those transactions typically work?
     
  7. Soviet Sunrise

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    You bid on his card and ask him if he can end the auction early for you to ensure nobody else, though I doubt it, will bid over your max bid. eBay will then ask you to pay for sip's card through Paypal and he'll send it out to you once he receives payment. It's nothing too complicated as long as you two keep good communication with each other.
     
  8. sujinge9

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    haha, Yeah I know how ebay works. I just thought there was an alternative method where we can cut costs. But I guess thats too risky.

    Edit: anyone knows if I can drop this into my 570tu?
    http://mivasecure.abac.com/rjtech/m...uct_Code=VGA-260M-M860ETU&Category_Code=OTHER

    according to notebookcheck.net gtx 260m is clocked slightly higher compared to the 9800gtx but there is some fluctuations in benchmarks. So essentially they are the same thing. If this thing works in my laptop, then clearly a new and slightly better card is prefered.
     
  9. Soviet Sunrise

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    Yes, that card will work with your M570TU. All you would need to do is mount the M570TU heatsink onto it. The plate on the back of the GTX 260M will not interfere with the heatsink so you can keep it on without worry.
     
  10. sujinge9

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    Ok so, just to be clear, I would remove the 9800m gt from my laptop. Remove the heatsink from that, remove the heatsink from the gtx 260m and replace it with the heatsink from the 9800m gt, and it will slip in fine.
     
  11. relax24

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    Damn why are the mobile chips so expensive. I was hoping to swap my GTX280m for the new 3 series chips eventually. The desktop counterparts are so much cheaper
     
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    It's probably because they need to be much more efficient (ie: smaller, requiring less power, producing less heat, etc).
     
  13. sujinge9

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    And (because I'm cynical about this) there is almost no competition for them ie you can't buy them off of newegg, so they can charge an arm a leg and get away with it cuz its a niche market.
     
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    I wonder how much it's going to cost me to get them to replace a 280m with the next best 300 series chip
     
  15. Soviet Sunrise

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    That's what she said too.
     
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    lols. Thanks for the amazing help. Donno how you could be more amazing unless you offered to buy the card for me ;)

    So as I stand right now I'm going to request my laptop shipped back to me with no changes (kinda feel like I'm wasting shipping... like 100 bucks right there) and probably call off the 9800m gtx deal. So now I've just gotta decide if I want to risk the used 9800 gt or pay hundred more for new and slight upgrade to gtx 260m.

    Any opinions? Probably need to make a decision by tonight.
     
  18. Soviet Sunrise

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    With the 9800M GT being $300 shipped and the GTX 260M being $415 before shipping, I would say go with the 9800M GT. Both cards run just as cool. You're probably not going to notice the difference in performance from an additional 16 shaders too much. And the 9800M GT can overclock fairly well. You shouldn't have any problems hitting 600/1500/900 @ 1v. Then again, the decision is entirely up to you and your wallet.
     
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    This is actually the main reason... not that it's more expensive to make them. Intel is selling desktop and notebook CPUs at the same price.
     
  20. Eivind

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    In my experience, that is very wrong.
     
  21. Soviet Sunrise

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    If a 9800M GTX can achieve 600/1500/900 @ 1v, then a 9800M GT should be able to easily as well. It's already been done before. If your 9800M GT needed to be overvolted a tick to touch those clocks, then your card is one of the few that can't make it on 1v. sujinge9's M570TU is capable of supplying more current and providing better cooling than the M860TU so it should be a piece of cake.
     
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    Why dont you agree? You really wouldnt notice a preformance diffrence between the 2, The 9800m GTX might run abit warmer but thats nothing to worry about.
     
  23. Eivind

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    ^It`s not me who doesn`t agree, but my videocard :) I think you have misunderstood a bit.

    Soviet: That may be true, but since I had to lower the clocks pretty much before it was stable, I just assumed. But if you know better...
     
  24. Soviet Sunrise

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    Yes, unfortunately quality control isn't as tight on the double neutered G92's, also known as the 9800M GT, also known as the 8800M GTX. I've seen your overclocks before, Eivind. Your card is no joke. It's just odd that it can achieve high clocks on 1.05v, but cannot achieve the standard 600/1500/900 on 1v.
     
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    thats why you buy $200 4 year parts and labor warranty. Just to sleep safe.
     
  26. Soviet Sunrise

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    What I want to know is what is causing sujinge9's screen to sometimes black out. This is one of the cases where there is no explanation as for why that phenomenon is happening and the vendor just pulls up the bullsh*t flag and says that the most expensive modular component on the notebook, the GPU, is faulty and since you're out of warranty, we're going to charge you a buttload for replacement and take our sweet time finding out what the real problem is and fix it under your nose. I want to know how sujinge9 and his vendor deduced that it was the GPU that was at fault. The LCD cable in the back of the display panel or at the motherboard end may have just been lose, which is one of the possible symptoms for the screen blacking out. An improperly seated card or dust in the PCI-E socket may also be a possibility. The list can go on, but as of now, sujinge9 has not given any other details.
     
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    Hi sujinge9,

    Check my sig! I have a 9800m GT for sale!
     
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    Hahaahaa... yeah... I had the exact same thoughts... and this was my reply:
    "Hello, Thank you for your email. I am sorry besides the video card no longer working we do not have any information on what exactly on the video card failed. The support department stated the video card is no longer functional and needs replaced.



    Please let us know how we can be of further assistance.



    Thanks,"

    I mean its not like the vid card completely doesn't work, it just that it sporadically dies. I suppose once I get my laptop back I can look into those problems. But atm I think I'm going to go ahead and buy apaanplaat's card unless you think I ought to hold back on it.