9800m GT Overclocking

x2................

 

When I used the x2 option before (prior to my overclocking the GPU) I saw almost no gain in benchmark scores and the CPU temps went about 10°ƒ
higher. But why does the CPU need to be overclocked? That advice seems to contradict what I've read in other threads here.

 

probably nothing to you, but I need those extra 0.2Ghz for FSX LOL

 

Listen Zenica, and listen closely. If you read something thinking it may be true without checking it out for yourself, then you’ll never know. Reading is good, but keep it as a reference point, not as FACT. You were grumpy grumpy grumpy about not achieving 11k in 3dmark06, Nirvana is trying to help you get there. I heard all kinds of stuff before I got this notebook, you and Nirvana was the reason I chose this notebook. Remember my thread “Is the M570RU worth getting”? Once I made up my mind I was getting it, suddenly while waiting to get the notebook, bad things about the notebook started to pop up. Things like, fan noise, flex keyboard, not being able to overclock CPU and GPU at the same time...WTH!!? I almost changed my mind on account of that, and almost went with the HDX. Boy, I’m so happy I didn’t! Not only do I not have the noise, or the flex. But heck, the darn notebook is stable with both GPU and CPU overclocked. Can I max both out at once, no. But my intentions will be to get better RAM, and overclock just the CPU to 3.2GHz at a rock solid stable environment. This notebook is the best thing I could have received, and thanks to you two and zfactor, I picked it.

Nuff said about that, on to you.

Take the gloves off, and start trying things yourself. Don’t take it that just because someone else can’t do something, that it will be the case for you. In everything especially notebook tweaking, YMMV! Now overclock that CPU and GPU till you find what is stable, I’m sure you will reach the 11k mark with ease.

 

keyboard flex? what? who said that?

 

I thought for sure Zenica replied to that thread, my bad!

Nirvana, it was after I made the decision that the keyboard flex started to pop up. I had to wait a month to get mine, and from every review of the 5796 most said they had some flex. Even a few 5793 owners said they had flex, and that is a big turn off for me! I didn’t know about Clevo at that time, so I was a big noob!

Looking back on things, Killernotebook was right on the button about the 9800GT and the 8800GTX.



http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=273562&page=2


Enough OT, I just thought it was funny looking back on things...man I had to wait long for my notebook.

 

that's interesting, I never read/heard of keyboard flex of 579x. and mine is tough like a rock lol.

 

Oh please!

Look it up in this forum Nirvana, there are some people who have flex and it’s because of something very simple. I couldn’t understand it either, considering the keyboard is about as solid as the palm rest LOL!

 

tagged for later reference. whats a safe gpu peak temperature? im pretty sure i saw 81C today after a few hours of crysis, and thats with a cooler.

 

I havent gotten over 68c even with my gpu's OC'ed, but thats with a 9262 on a zalman nc2000 cooler.

 

Well, I took your advice kobe, and OC'd the CPU. At first I did the x1 option
and then loaded Windows. Ran WPrime, 3DMark06 and Vantage benchmark test and pretty much all of them except WPrime were about the same as no CPU overclock. So I tried x2 and the system loaded Windows but the first benchmark test gave me a BOD. I tried a reboot but Windows BOD again after login. Temps are fine, those I can monitor with or without HWMonitor.

I set it back to x0 (disabled) and Windows is once again normal.

My guess is my memory can't handle the x2 OC. I'm going to read some memory threads and see which DDR3 is the best for overclocking and get some of that. Keep the memory I have now for the second system I get to replace my aging HP TV Tuner (I use an HP as an entertainment center for movies and downloaded TV shows).


Oh, my keyboard feels like it sits on a slab os steel.

 

If you are overclocking via the bios, you are overclocking ONLY the cpu, that is what the multiplier does. If you overclock from windows (using setfsb - the only way if you're using a non Xtreme processor) then you overclock everything - this is what usually makes gpu&cpu overclocks unstable. Are you sure that your fsb is running at stock levels, as if it is, I don't see why 3dmark was reporting your cpu as 3.12GHz. Could you post a screenshot of the main page of cpuz?

 

I don't think he has setFSB installed

looks like it was benchmark'ed under x1.

 

I will post pictures of CPU-Z, GPU-Z & CoreTemp.
I do not have SetFSB installed. I put it on the HP but never did anything with it. I prefer hardware overclocking vs software.

 

It´s CPU problem, the core voltage is not enough for a 3.6G CPU. I can reach that only with a >1.4V core voltage.

 

I took these with the OC disabled. I will OC x1 & x2 and check the core voltage with CPU-Z, then post pictures.

 

Kaltmond; your right...voltage is unchanged. I only went up x1 and could
see the voltage is unchanged so I didn't bother x2. The BIOS does not offer any options to up the voltage, I presume this can be accomplished with software? Any thoughts on what software and how?

 

So the x1 only means multi from 11.5 to 12? not 12.5? How about x2?

 

x2 is 13

 

holy smoke!!!!!!!!! X9100 can do up to 3.53?? I thought it was limited to 3.33ghz

 

The interesting thing is that on stock it should be running at x11 (not x11.5) therefore 3.06GHz, not 3.12GHz...Strange

 

stock should be 266x11.5=3060.
@zenica, 3.5G @1.35v stable (try orthos)? I can run X9000@ 200x17 1.3375V no problem, so 1.35v for 3.5G maybe also ok?

 

Orthos? Why Orthos? Isn't it a stress test?

I think the CPU isn't stable at x2 because the voltage isn't being increased
and the Clevo BIOS has fewer options than my HP or Toshiba. I am a bit disappointed by the lack of options in the BIOS.

 

I added the lowest and highest CPU temps while Orthos was running.
Right now it is OC'd x1

 

98°C...really hot. I also reach that high when OC 3.6G.

 

These pictures are of the BIOS, the first is the Main page while the second and third are of the Advanced page where the CPU OC settings are. Notice nothing allows control over voltages.

 

OK, so how can I crank up the juice so I can OC at x2 (3.53GHz)

 

Yes clevo bios does´t have voltage options. The M570RU is so: when stock @2.8G, vcore is 1.3125V. When set to x1/x2, the vcore will automatic raised to 1.325/1.3375V. In order to get higher u must pin mod the socket with copper wire, but the extra heat is a big problem..... I think i need the 3rd fan to cool CPU separately.

 

what kaltmond saying is that you should wait for the bios update from clevo. your x2 issue has nothing to do with the GPU OC.

 

Ahh

I certainly hope Clevo plans to correct this oversight and not by taking
the easy way out and just eliminate the x2 option.

 

After my gpu OC my windows score went up lol. My graphics score was originally 5.8. Now 5.9 across the board, not that windows score really means anything. I just thought it was kinda funny that a OC would raise it.

 

WEI is meaningless, even more so since it can be hacked in 11 seconds to read what ever you want, even past the 5.9 limit.

 

I know its meaningless, thats funny 7.0 I didnt know u could do that lol. I was just showing it because it went up from a gpu oc.

 

Just took my GPU to 610/1525/945 with 1.05v on my M860TU, and got a great performance increase. Getting about +10 FPS in crysis warhead now. Great stuff.

Did some testing in Crysis for approximately 2 hours, and I've hit a max of 82 degrees on the card.

 

Have you an extern cooler, like zalman n2000??
can you up your bios please

 

There you go, put up my overclocked BIOs as well as my original bios for those too lazy to back up (But you should still make one!!)

Flashed with
nvflash -5 -6 oc.rom

Enjoy.

 

In total or in addition to?

 

In addition to the 25-30 I was already getting, granted I've turned up my settings a little bit now. See my crysis warhead on the m860TU thread for benchmarks.


Also to the previous poster, no I don't have an external cooler, but I'm planning on investing in one in the near future.

 

So your getting 30+ on high or max?

 

Again, refer to my crysis warhead thread for benchmarks, I'm averaging about 28 FPS on my own high-very high settings at 1440x900

 

Just overclocked my 9800m gt. Right now im running 610/945/1525. So far the max temp while gaming has been 78c.

Just wundering if anybody else is stable, and running higher clocks than this??

 

Im runnin the same clocks as you. I havent tried anything higher than that. I peaked at 68c with a zalman NC200 cooler. If you are successfull with higher clocks thats stable and cool let me know.

 

correct me if im wrong but isnt a bios flash to those clocks semi permanent? i would absolutely love to overclock my 9800GT to those clocks but the battery life is low as it is and portability is a high priority for me with the M860TU. will this overclock affect battery performance, and if so is there a way to revert the clocks back to normal easily?

also how well do this method and setFSB play together? i got a nice little bump in performance from using it but i would think the two would interfere... are you guys using a different program for CPU overclocking?

 

You’re only overclocking the extreme 3D performance. If you’re running on battery power, you will not be running at the overclocked speed so it will not affect battery life.

 

I didn't know you were able to use setFSB with the 860TU?

 

I wouldn't suggest using SetFSB with an overclocked GPU seeing as you don't have the option of keeping the pci bus at 100mhz. In other words, setFSB will overclock the PCI bus as well, and mess with your stability if you have an overclocked GPU. If there's a function in setFSB which allows you to set the speed of the PCI bus that I don't know of, then it'd be safe to use.

 

So you're saying that setFSB actually works with that notebook?

 

Yep, works 100%. I used it before I overclocked my GPU and got my CPU to 2.7ghz

 

Uh oh, I smell trouble. If you guys start to overclock those systems with a faster front side bus, it will blow the doors off everything else.