9800m Gtx!

Hello,

This has probably already been posted, but I am too blind to find it. Anyways, I was curious to know if upgrading to the 9800M GTX from the 9800M GT is worth the extra $365. Also, since it is 1G memory, does that mean it is two separate cards in SLI or is it just the first card with a total of 1G memory instead of the regular 512MB?

This is a two part question and would appreciate if everyone could please answer both. Can someone also post a site which shows accurate benchmarks and specs of both cards?

 

Nobody has received a notebook with a 9800GT or 9800GTX yet in order give benchmarks yet. I don't even think the resellers have these cards in anything yet.

Is the GTX worth $365 more than the GT, depends....if you can loose 10k at a card table and think nothing of it, then spending 365 for a better performing card just may be worth it. If you eat ramen noodles and drive a moped to save on gas, then no, it is not.

That GTX with 1gig is a single card config. They have yet to approve an SLi config with the GTXs.

 

Lolz... accurate benchmarks and specs won't exist for the 9800m gtx until its actual release in August. As for the 9800m gt, it's a die-shrunk 8800m gtx => maybe less power consumption, support for hybrid sli, slightly newer hd features. Performance will be pretty much equal. You can find some benchmarks in the 8800m gtx and 9800m gt differences thread. As for the 9800m gtx it's just one card with a total of 1 gb memory (which it probably can't use due to the 256 bit memory bus). It just has more shaders; not worth the 365 imo. I'd wait and see how the hd 3870 performs.

 

So with that being said, would it be wise to get a 15.4 inch notebook for gaming and not much portability in exchange for a better processor as it doesn't support the 9800M GTX anyways?

 

That depends; I've been debating the NP 8660 and NP 5796 myself, especially considering that the former is cheaper even with a better processor. Well, I'd wait and see the reviews to see how well the NP 8660 handles heat and noise. Also, chances are that you won't be getting the WUXGA screen on the NP 8660 (everything will be tiny and your eyes might not even be able to tell much difference in clarity between WUXGA and WSXGA+ at that size... not to mention the former is matte while the latter is gloss, but that's your choice), whereas at 17" I'd go for WUXGA. The 9800m gt should be enough to handle even crysis at WSXGA+ at high settings according to some forum members. I'll probably opt for the NP 5796 with 9800m gt (unless I go for the NP 9262, which you can also get for the same price as the NP 5796 except with a MUCH better processor) since I like to watch a lot of HD content.

 

i'd get a 9800m gt sli

 

same, but what if 9800m GTX supports SLi? that will stirr things up a bit im sure...

 

Um hang on a moment...
There are more shaders on the GTX, sure. If you look at the specs on nvidia's site it will show you that.
However... other then the increased shaders... is there no more benefit then the 9800GT?
I am one of those who is waiting for the 9800GTX card to come out and will spend the extra 360 to get one, but not if its just another 512 meg card... There is no amount of drivers that can fix a pin "problem". Can this card really not support anymore memory then 512? If that is the case, could someone give me some reasons to get the GTX as opposed to the GT please.

Thanks!
~E

 

More memory doesn't necessarily mean a graphics card is better. More memory means it can do what it does best at a higher resolution. Are you gaming in 1920x1200? If so, you'll probably want the 1GB.

 

..and, as someone already said, if the card has a 256bit memory bus it can only use 512mb. The 1gb is mainly a marketing thing since the memory is so cheap to add on.

AFAIK (thumb rule: X bit bus x 2 = maximume memory usage)

 

As I've stated in multiple other threads, 9800M GTX SLI has been announced, there's just no ETA for when it's coming.

 

It's not the first 1gb notebook card either.

 

I haven't been able to find any official mention of it having a 256 but bus. Does Nvidia say it somewhere?

 

9800gtx also has more core processors which can have a huge effect.

 

how do you like your notebook.

 

yes, atm im running on my parents ACER aspire 4920G
Its a cheap laptop (for our standards) and it has an ATI radeon HD 2400 XT wich is a 1gb discreet GPU.

 

Though is the difference in core processors worth the extra $365?

 

I didn't get something, since I don't know any stores that sell mobile graphic cards.
Is the 9800m GT cheaper then the 8800m gtx? Prices seem to keep acumulating, the was already about 500$? The 9800gtx will be that plus the 365$?

 

The 9800M GT is replacing the 8800M GTX... so the pricing should be near the same.

the 9800M GTX is going to be out soon and its expected to pay the premium for the fastest mobile videocard.

As for purchasing mobile videocards (MXM), there are only a few third party sources like:
- www.mxm-upgrade.com
- www.rjtech.com
- www.eurocom.com
- ebay

For the best chance to get first party support for purchasing videocards, ou contact your vendor that sold you the notebook.

 

And is the premium worth the extra power the 9800M GTX gives over the 9800M GT?

 

personally, I dont think so.

15% for a few extra hundred is not worth it or is "bang for the buck".. which I am always looking for.

 

But the question is that every new generation of cards, brings better performance, so 9800GT should be cheaper than 8800gtx, like happens in the desktop segment, in the new generation , there will be one card (not the top one) that equals the performance of the top of the previous generations...
They're just stealing more and more =\

 

I think i've seen it somewhere but i might be wrong. I can't find it now. That's why i wrote "if". I'll check a little bit more..

I'm loving it

 

the 9800 only comes with 256bit bus (DT and NB version)

 

7950 GTX, 8800m, 9800m all got 256bit bus.

 

The 9800M GT costs quite a bit less than a 8800M GTX simply because it is not in the "King" pricing slot as the 8800M GTX was.

While it is an equivalent card, it is now in the 2nd rung of the pricing structure allowing for the 9800M GTX to take the "King" pricing slot.

That is why 2 cards with almost identical performance will have significantly different pricing.

 

The cards line up with specs as follows:

9700M GT
32 shaders
625MHz core clock
1,550MHz shader clock
128-bit Memory interface
800MHz memory clock

9700M GTS
48shaders
530MHz core clock
1,325MHz shader clock
256-bit Memory interface
800MHz memory clock

9800M GTS
64 shaders
600MHz core clock
1,500MHz shader clock
256-bit Memory interface
800MHz memory clock

9800M GT
96 shaders
500MHz core clock
1,250MHz shader clock
256-bit Memory interface
800MHz memory clock

9800M GTX
112 shaders
500MHz core clock
1,250MHz shader clock
256-bit Memory interface
800MHz memory clock

 

hmmm... if the GTX really has NO benefit of its increased mem, then the difference is only 16 shaders.

Someone lay this bag of snakes out straight lol.

 

you would need to be running 1680x1050 - 1920x1200 resolution....then the more memory would come into play. (speculation of course)


and who knows what they will over clock to.....

 

Alright, I think I am satisfied that I'd rather get the 9800M GT. I am already going to have to spend a lot of money on taxes anyways.

 

Yeah cause I am going to be running 1920*1200. That 256 bit interface is not something that could be easily changed in the future... so yeah. Going to have to wait for some reviews to come out.

 

how much a performance boost (%) would sli provide. i am sure the price will be like +500$ extra though

 

That was exactly what I was asking, thank you .

 

well toshiba just came out with the 9800m gtx 112 shaders.