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    9800m gtx no longer works

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by brownstonemr, May 23, 2010.

  1. brownstonemr

    brownstonemr Notebook Consultant

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    So I sat down at the computer which had been on and the mouse was lagging like crazy and I couldn't even get the task bar to open. So I just held down the power button and restarted. Not paying attention to the boot screen I looked up thinking I would be in windows but the screen was just black.

    So I restarted again and noticed the lines up and down the boot screen. I had this happen with a couple of Dell Nvidia cards. Whats up with these nvidia cards? All the ones I have had last about 1.5 years then stop working.

    Only way to get into windows is to remove the display driver. Luckily in standard vga mode it is still giving me 1920x1200 and I don't have lines running up and down the screen like at boot. Of course watching or playing video game sucks.

    So I know there is the baking method which I may try at some point. Should I even try to flash the bios from my 608 bios to maybe the 617 bios to see if it gives it some new life at all.

    Also what other cards should I possibly look to buy on ebay etc. Is the 280m the highest I can get for the M570TU? There aren't any ATI cards similar to the 9800m gtx are there? Having all my nvidia cards break all the time is getting really annoying.

    Well any info would be appreciated.

    Thx.
     
  2. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    MXM 2.1 slot?

    Probably best to go with a 4850/4870 (sure the 280m/285m is more powerful, but the ATI should run cooler and be cheaper).

    BTW, did you try just re-seating the card (long shot but worth a try)?
     
  3. Blacky

    Blacky Notebook Prophet

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    You can also put 4850 or 4870 in the M570TU. However there are no 4870 MXM 2.1 that I know of, but you could buy a 4850 and OC it to 4870 clocks.
     
  4. brownstonemr

    brownstonemr Notebook Consultant

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    Thx for the info guys. After looking on around the net I think it may be harder getting the ati cards compared to the nvidia cards.

    I did reseat the card but no luck getting it working. Actually getting to the card and removing it was so much easier than my old dell. You had to take the keyboard, monitor and other things off just to get to the card.

    My next notebook purchase will still probably be a Clevo but with ATI if I can.
     
  5. brownstonemr

    brownstonemr Notebook Consultant

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    Well the computer was off for hours and I turned it back on and to my suprise there were no vertical lines anymore at boot. So I reinstalled a video driver and the card is working now :).

    I had been using powermizer manager program so I would stop getting BSOD when entering windows. Cannot say that had anything to do with it but on several occasions after leaving my notebook doing nothing, I would come back and have laggy mouse movement. Maybe the driver but just in case I think I will leave powermizer alone.

    I do monitor temps and have been fine gaming so I don't think it was a temp issue that made it stop working yesterday cause it I wasn't using it.
     
  6. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I have never heard of a faulty 9800m GTX. At least failure is not as common as with the 8800m cards.
     
  7. mos667

    mos667 Notebook Enthusiast

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    This is the second story about a failing 9800 gtx.. I am having an issue right now with one and I have no idea what the problem is. Which drivers did you use to fix yours, Brown?
     
  8. sp-1

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    Since the 8800 and 9800 are the same gpu the 9800s will most likely encounter the same problems the 8800s have had and require replacement or baking.
     
  9. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    But the 9800s are supposed to run cooler (die shrunken). Less likely to fail, but I guess it's possible. OP hasn't replied yet so his problem might be solved.
     
  10. brownstonemr

    brownstonemr Notebook Consultant

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    Well unfortunately the card isn't working again. Working fine for most of the day watching videos in VLC with OpenGL. Hadn't tried gaming but later on watching something the computer froze and blue screened. I then saw the artifacts again.

    mos667 it wasn't a driver that got it working because I had to have the nvidia driver uninstalled to get into regular windows. It was after the artifacts disappeared from the boot screen that I reinstalled a display driver.

    Left it again for hours but has not fixed itself. I am wondering if flashing the card to start with lower clocks (memory) would help at all?
     
  11. sp-1

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    Just bake the card. You can get some more life out of it that way.

    Also as a note there was no die shrink on the 9800GTX.
     
  12. Eivind

    Eivind Notebook Evangelist

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    GTX 260M was basically a die shrink 9800M GTX with higher clocks.
     
  13. sp-1

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    That is correct the 260m and 280m were the die shrinks.
     
  14. brownstonemr

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    So I held out on the baking of the card just incase it ended up rendering my notebook completely useless. Well I just baked the card at 385F for just over 8mins and now IT WORKS!! :)