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    980x + 6970m Benchmarks

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by lpnowlan, Jan 28, 2011.

  1. lpnowlan

    lpnowlan Notebook Consultant

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    lpnowlan, Jan 28, 2011
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    The notebookcheck review for the 485m states that the 485m gets 48.12 fps under high settings at 1600 by 900 with 4 AF and AAA(?), can someone please explain what the heck AAA is? Is that 2AA? This 6970 benchmark could shed some real light on the whole 6970 vs 485m comparison since people kept on claiming the old 6970 benchmarks were not giving the card its full potential due to the cpu. Well now its paired with a 980X which is obviously faster than the Sandy Bridge processors. So what do you guys think?
     
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  3. Daniel Hahn

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    AAA = Analytical Anti Aliasing.

    Performance looks very good, but those benchmarks don't tell us too much...
     
    Daniel Hahn, Jan 28, 2011
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    Okay so from what I understood so far about AAA, its much better than 2xaa and 4xaa and has a bigger hit on performance. So then seeing as the 6970 with a 980x only gets 40 fps at 1280 by 720 with 4AA and 16AF while the GTX 485m gets 48.12 fps at 1600 by 900 with 4AF and AAA, is it safe to say that the 485m outperforms the 6970 ALOT in this game?
     
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  5. StZu

    StZu Notebook Evangelist

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    According to NBC the 6970 outperforms the 485 @1920x1080 in both this an crysis maxed out.
     
    StZu, Jan 28, 2011
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    there might still something not ready yet i think
    the card is engineering sample, the driver not final version blabla
    ...............
    the easy way is to use desktop 6850 and down clock to 680/900
    then run & compare benchmarcks that memory usage under 1GB
     
    DGDXGDG, Jan 28, 2011
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  7. mobiousblack

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    Yes I know hence why we cant tell what will be stronger yet.
     
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  8. lpnowlan

    lpnowlan Notebook Consultant

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    I wonder where HotHardware got their benchmarks... they don't seem to have a review up of that Eurocom system on their website...
     
    lpnowlan, Jan 28, 2011
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    AAA is almost like 4xAA quality wise but doesn't have the performance hit associated with 4xAa.
     
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  10. StZu

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    correct, but using common sense, does that not dictate that a final version of the 6970 with updated drivers along with the same SB processor would outperform the 485m even more in the future? Perhaps there was a similar situation that someone can recall. i.e 5870 v. 460m
     
    StZu, Jan 28, 2011
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  11. buckX

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    Then again, ATI is known for getting their driver "good enough", and then leaving it be, whereas the nvidia cards get tweaked and incrementally improved over the next year or so.
     
    buckX, Jan 28, 2011
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    This isn't really true. Sometimes there are bugs that take awhile, but something always improves with every release. Look at Cat 9.12 > 10.7 for the 5870m.
     
    JohnnyFlash, Jan 30, 2011
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    This new series of GPUs, (the 485m and 6970) are not worth it, if you allready have something like 460, 470, 480, single or sli allready. and or 5870 single or double.

    The ones that will trully make a difference are the ones that wil be made when they change the manufacturing process.
     
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  14. Aikimox

    Aikimox Weihenstephaner!

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    I'll repeat it again,

    That 6970M in Panther2.0 is an engineering sample, AFAIK. Jumping to conclusions here is useless. Dell UK already has production units for M17XR3 and we'll soon know how well the card performs. At this point I'd take the benches with a huge grain of salt.
     
    Aikimox, Jan 30, 2011
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    You're a retailer... How much longer do us plain folk have to endure this agony? I CANT TAKE IT!!! lol
     
    StZu, Jan 30, 2011
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  16. Aikimox

    Aikimox Weihenstephaner!

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    Being a retailer doesn't save you from the enthusiast's agony, M8. I've been waiting for this card since the roadmap first surfaced. :(
     
    Aikimox, Jan 30, 2011
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    That's obvious, isn't it?
     
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  19. Aikimox

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    No, to me it is NOT obvious. We have nor proper BIOS/firmware for x7200 neither vBios for the cards. The drivers have to be modified by Clevo and the cards used for the review weren't retail units.
    At this point, giving solid statements is pointless.

    Patience is virtue ;)
     
    Aikimox, Jan 31, 2011
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  20. little_one

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    The recent issue on Sandy Bridge is the more reason for me to wait for 6970 m :D
     
    little_one, Jan 31, 2011
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