A few questions before getting a Sager laptop

I did a plenty of research and I finally wanted to get a NP8278-S from Sager.

Just have a couple questions before getting this laptop.

1. Many resellers sell this model with the ic diamond thermal compound. They don't even give you an option to choose the stock one. I googled this stuff and many people said it scratched the CPU/GPU dies. So I don't want to buy it. Do you guys have any experience with the ic diamond? how was it?

2. And I really want to get a Sager laptop with the BEST cooling system. Any recommendations?

PS: Apology to my bad English :cry:

 

ICD7 is highly recommended and if given the choice I would demand it be used if buying a new clevo.
You can view polls and many statistics of this thermal paste here.
I pasted with ICD7 back in 2011 when I bought my clevo and have never had to touch it since... it is that good and I rate it highly as I am sure sellers/other users do too.

Yes it may scratch the die of the CPU or GPU but who will be looking at this when the cooler is attached on top?
I recall when I first bought my clevo I thought shucks... the cpu and gpu will be ruined but you get over this quickly especially when you know how well it works.

There are other choices but honestly why bother.
Just make sure if you ever repaste you follow this guide explicitly.

Good luck & wlecome to NBR

 

Thanks for your suggestions.
Yeah I saw different points of view about the ICD7.
If you get scratches on the CPU/GPU it won't be a good choice to repaste an another thermal compound on the CPU/GPU, right? (it might cause some chemical exchange, i think?)
This is what I am trying to avoid because I wanna keep my new laptop at least for 3 years.

And seems like you are having a Clevo P170HM. I saw a forum said that some P150s and P170s were having serious cooling problems.
I just found the link.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/sag...g-systems-neglected-clevo-solutions-here.html

In your experience, how was your P170HM working in terms of the CPU and GPU's temperature?

I am aiming for the P170SM-A and I have no idea how good this model is in terms of cooling..

 

Not a single complaint here the Clevo P170HM is a stunning machine for the price and cooling wise no issues ever experienced. I originally had 6990m at 40nm die size it was a hooooooooooooot one regularly reaching temps close to 85C whilst gaming.
Surprisingly the clevo withstood the high temps and I still have the 6990m lying in the cupboard collecting dust
The 680m at 28nm is a breath of fresh air and with the 2820QM I have not one single complaint. It idles around 32-38C and peaks around 65C no more. Both CPU and GPU pasted with ICD7.
The cpu idles around 30C and hits about 55-60C peak. Of course I am quite technically minded and always clean the grilles underneath every 6 months just to be sure. Those horror stories you commonly read and linked to revolve around complacency and allowing the gunk to accumulate on the fans/ grilles causing heat issues. I was ultra careful regarding this when I used the 6990m. Now not so much.

All in all a beautiful machine...

 

Haha good to hear your laptop running so well.
Ahhh seems like I have to do some more research to make sure everything would be perfect lol.
I really don't want to buy that many laptops

 

I just got a 680m as well and the peak temps is a real shocker to me. Its almost like this card was built to OC...which has me thinking OCing ;/ idk though

 

Just an observation but make sure you get the most recent motherboard with whatever model you go with, that way you will maximize GPU upgrades down the line. Once your MB becomes obsolete, your GPU upgrades become limited. Also it seems like these GPU's have about a 2.5 year lifespan if you're a heavy gamer, I have proof to back this up; just an observation from people posting on these forums and my personal experience. I would recommend avoiding 3D machines, their bios are a little tricky and if you ever need to update your bios for a new GPU; you will have to have custom ones. Anyway - I love my Sager to death and I would recommend the brand for any serious mobile gamer.

 

Temps are meaningless without context. I've observed a temp difference of up to 10C between Watch Dogs and Far Cry 3, with Far Cry 3 heating up my 780Ms a lot more.

 

You can only make fair comparisons under the same load and ambient temperatures it's true.