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    AMD vs Intel

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by ArmageddonAsh, Mar 21, 2008.

  1. ArmageddonAsh

    ArmageddonAsh Mangekyo Sharingan

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    wobble987 Notebook Virtuoso

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    AMD used to beat intel during the pentium 4 era... but right now, intel is better in all front..

    are you trying to fit a quad core in a laptop??!?! i dont think thats a good idea... i imagine; it would be very noisy and HOT!

    btw, the 9262 is intel based isn't it? you can't swap it to AMD coz it uses different cpu socket.
     
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    ArmageddonAsh Mangekyo Sharingan

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    oh okay thanx.
     
  4. themanwithsauce

    themanwithsauce Notebook Evangelist

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    An AMD chip will nto work in an Intel socket.

    However the Q6600 and Q6700 can commonly be found in the 9262's and work quite well.
     
  5. ArmageddonAsh

    ArmageddonAsh Mangekyo Sharingan

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    im looking at the Q6600

    is it betetr then Q9300 or Q9450 as its overclockable?
     
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    ScifiMike12 Drinking the good stuff

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    The Q9300 would be better since it has SSE 4.1 and it's 100Mhz faster (not sure if that matters to you).

    All the chips would be overclockable but it depends on your motherboard, whether or not your BIOS allows any overclocking.

    Edit: The Q9450 is also a great chip but I'm not sure how much $$$ it would be to upgrade to that. It's around $320 OEM FYI. The only benefit over the Q9300 is more cache, 6MB vs. 12MB. Oh, and it's 2.66Ghz vs. 2.50Ghz on the Q9300.
     
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    pasoleatis Notebook Deity

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    I already ordered a D901C with a quad. The reviews that I saw they all say about good cooling. Guys with q6600 could tell how hot and noisy is the laptop with a quad core.
     
  8. ArmageddonAsh

    ArmageddonAsh Mangekyo Sharingan

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    so its out of the Q6600 and the Q9300
     
  9. Fade To Black

    Fade To Black The Bad Ass

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    Why would any sane person want to use an AMD these days (I have one, bought it only because my computer broke and didn't had any money)? They consume more power and are slower than equivalent Intel CPUs.
     
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    ArmageddonAsh Mangekyo Sharingan

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    ive never used an AMD beofre but i know a few people that prefer them and they say its bettr for gaming, but it doesnt matter now as i now know the 9262 cant use them

    more interested in what would be the best processor to get out of the Q6600 and the Q9300
     
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    Relowe Notebook Consultant

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    So. Would a Q6800 work in a Sager N9262/Clevo D901C?
     
  12. Fade To Black

    Fade To Black The Bad Ass

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    I am not sure about that, but the new Penryns should work (up to Q9450 for sure).
     
  13. pasoleatis

    pasoleatis Notebook Deity

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    I just ordered mine with the Q9450. Did Clevo realease some update to the BIOS for the q9300 and q9450?
     
  14. stilgarna

    stilgarna Newbie

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    Does someone test a 9262 with a Q9300 or a Q9450 ???

    I need to change my old 9750 for a brand new, and faster, 9262... ;)
    I hope the 9262 is ale to deal with Q9300 and 9450 for lower power... More battery live and less temperature...

    I work in CG and I deserve the best !!!


    Sorry my English s**ks, I m a French frog :)


    Best regards...
     
  15. Fade To Black

    Fade To Black The Bad Ass

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    It is possible to use these new CPUs in the 9262, but I am not sure if Clevo has released an official BIOS.
     
  16. Neil@Kobalt

    Neil@Kobalt Company Representative

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    Currently the Q9300 is pretty much the same price as the Q6600 so I assume that's the main reason for comparing the two?? TBH I don't think there's really any question:

    Q9300

    2.5GHz, 1333MHz FSB, 45nm, 6MB L2 Cache

    Q6600

    2.4GHz, 1066MHz FSB, 65nm, 8MB L2 Cache

    The Q9300 is faster (both in pure speed and also add about 6% clock per clock performance), runs at 1333FSB (again performance gain, though marginal) and is 45nm so will run cooler. It only looses out with the 6MB L2 Cache.


    I think if it were my choice I'd go for the Q9450 due to the 12MB Cache (and cause they're only about £20 more).

    If it were for a desktop system then that's another matter and is where doubt creeps in. As the Q9450 only had a multi of 8x (opposed to Q6600 of 9x) you'll have to pump the FSB more to get the same OC. We reguarly send Q6600 systems out 3.4GHz + but that's a desktop...........
     
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    The Q9300 outperforms the Q6600, as you can see in XbitLabs's review.
     
  18. Eleison

    Eleison Thanatos Eleison

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    @pasoleatis:

    Where did you order a D900C with a Q9450? Sager does not offer the NP9262 with anything higher than a Q6700 at the moment because there are several (unspecified) issues with the newer quad-core processors that they will be trying to resolve now that SLi has been fixed.
     
  19. pasoleatis

    pasoleatis Notebook Deity

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    There are several companies in Europe that sell D901C with 45 nm processors.
    overam.fr
    pcw.fr
    deviltech.de
    kobaltcomputers.co.uk
     
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    stilgarna Newbie

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    I've just look at pcw offers... they are out of their mind !!!

    Same config at sager : 3200$ at pcw 3600€...

    Are they mad :)

    Best regards...
     
  21. Eleison

    Eleison Thanatos Eleison

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    @Stilgarna:

    Quite possiblY, but remember that an EU price generally already has VAT/Duties/whatever else your country of origin may charge added into the price. If you are in France, look into how much it would cost you to import a $3,200 computer (not to mention the steep international shipping fees)...you may end up with the two prices looking a lot more similar than they do at first.
     
  22. bhattsan

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    Well on topic....
    intel= performance king
    amd= budget king
     
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    Eleison Thanatos Eleison

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    @bhattsan:

    Too true. It wasn't always that way, but it certainly is true now. AMD has lost their performance crown and descended to the bargain bin :(.
     
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    stilgarna Newbie

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    Last time with my sager 9750... Not a big problem with vat and shipping, at the end, same price as a dell9400 with core2...

    For now $ is very lower than €

    I'm not in france but I'm working in switzerland... VAT is 7.6% instead of 19.6% in france...

    Best regards...
     
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