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    About to order P150EM - Will 680m reduce noise compared to 7970m?

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by vegetaeater, Jun 12, 2013.

  1. vegetaeater

    vegetaeater Notebook Evangelist

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    ^ As topic ^

    Just about to pull the trigger. The enduro issues don't bother me as much as the temperatures I've seen posted on notebookcheck ( Review GeForce GTX 680M vs. Radeon HD 7970M - NotebookCheck.net Reviews)
    Having never owned or seen a Clevo before, I'm wondering whether the 680m might run quieter, with it not hitting the fan set points as often?

    However, if most people would say it's pretty much identical, then I'll just stick with the 7970m.

    Cheers!
     
  2. jaybee83

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    u aiming to buy a used system? cuz if not, if rather go for a newer P150SM / P157SM machine with a 780M :)

    in case it is a used machine: i can only say that the 7970M in my P150HM is pretty darn quiet on idle and barely audible when im gaming :) temp wise the absolute maximum i hit is around 82C after 20 min in kombustor, whereas regular gaming is somewhere in the 60s to 70s.
     
  3. vegetaeater

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    Thanks Jaybee.

    No, it's not a used machine I'm looking at. It's just, from one Australian online store, I can pick up a P150EM with a 128 msata for $1279. The other online retailer only has the P150SM, which comes with no msata, which starts at $1579.
    So basically, a $300 discount, and a free 128 plextor msata. A pretty convincing deal.

    However, I could still be swayed to go with the SM model if it was proven quieter than the EM... but from what I've read so far, the temperature reduction (result of the new heat sink) in the SM model seems to be offset by the fact that the 780m runs hotter than the 680m?

    Finally, the P150EM gives me the option of using the 7970m - whereas the 8970m isn't out yet. And from what I've read, the 8970 is only a smidge faster, yet more likely to run hotter.

    Is there anything I'm missing? Is there any real benefit to paying up for the SM model? I hope HTWingnut drops his review soon!
     
  4. Mighty_Benduru

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    I think there will not be any difference since it's the fan that's making the noise, not the cards themselves. It's not a desktop setup where different manufacturers will put different models of fan onto the vid card. Regardless of the vid card you choose, the fan is the same and the DB level will not change. If I have to guess, I will say the 680m will probably be lower since it does run on lower temperature. If you are running pushing the card hard, the fan is going to go full force and DB level will be max, regardless of the type of card you run.
     
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    yup yup, the fan tables on the SM machines are soon to be updated, a new Bios and EC is already in the works :)
     
  6. Support.3@XOTIC PC

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    There wont be any noise difference between the two video cards. Once you hit the thermal threshold it will tell the fans to kick on higher and you'll get there at the same time regardless of the GPU.
    I'd also say go with a SM, if you go with the EM you're getting last years technology. If your budget is whats making you go for the EM, skip the mSATA for now and the newer CPU and GPU in the SM then add the mSATA later when you can afford it.
     
  7. vegetaeater

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    I was thinking of just getting the msata (128gb) and installing the OS on that... then just ordering a 256gb SSD later on for all my other data. Would this work just as well?

    Pretty tempted to go the 8970m route if I go the SM model, to trim costs down a tad.
     
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    If you plan on installing a mSATA and a SSD then thats even more reason to go with the SM. The mSATA slots are SATA III on the SM while on the EM are only SATA II so you'll be able to get twice the speed. You really dont need to get a SSD for data storage a HDD is typically going to be fast enough and you'll get more GB for the price.
     
  9. vegetaeater

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    Amazing, thanks for the info Hutsady.

    Basically, I'm just going to use the machine for gaming. I figured a small SSD might be nice for some games (and a little quieter).

    I suppose I'll be grabbing the P150SM with an 8970m then. I just wish the GPU was already available!

    Thanks for the help.
     
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    You'll get much more of a gaming performance boost by getting the newer 8970M then you will with a mSATA. The mSATA drive will really only help with how fast the games starts and how fast maps load when you change zones. Actual game play doenst benefit form a faster drive but will greatly with a better video card.

    But on the other had a mSATA or SSD will make your over all computer responsiveness better, it just doesnt help with gaming.

    Get the SM w/8970M then through in a mSATA or SSD when you and you'll be set.

    Happy to help out!
     
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    You could get a very small mSATA 64GB and use the intel accelerating technology to get some speed boost at least.
     
  12. vegetaeater

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    Does the new heat sink in the SM range result in a quieter machine?
    Or are the new models identical to the EM range in fan noise comparisons?
     
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    Same fan so similar, it might not need to ramp quite so hard but the 780m will just clock itself more so your game is faster but the heat is the same.
     
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    hi amigo how I can create my first post? I can not find the option to create new post
     
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