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    Actual powerful Clevo?

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Danishblunt, Mar 19, 2018.

  1. Danishblunt

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    I was wondering, I don't think I've seen anything like it thus far, but are there actual powerful Clevo notebooks with workstation level hardware around?

    I'm aware of the beastly P570WM, but that seems thus far to be just it, and it does seem rather outdated, even tho still somewhat powerful.

    Are there newer versions which are sporting CPU's such as Xeon E5 series? Or did clevo just drop the P570WM and that was the one and only workstation level noetbook?
     
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  2. Dr. AMK

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    As I know you can find some Clevo workstation with Xeon E3 options at Eurocom, but I didn't see any with Xeon E5 yet.
     
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    I know the MSI 16L13 has options for Xeon processors and Quadro GPUs but I do not know if it the specific versions you are looking for, and I am not sure what the newer model offers, if there is one, compared to what the one in my sig offered when I bought it.
     
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    yeah but those a LGA 1151 CPU's and are rather weak. I was wondering if there are notebooks out there with 24 or 32 cores out there?
     
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    2011 pins is the largest ever socket to go mobile in the P570WM.

    There are no other HEDT platforms out there. There is not enough demand for such machines, especially in the US where the demand for the P570WM was at its lowest compared to Europe and Asia.

    Lets face it, the cost of developing the platform is massively high even with the P570WM and since then complexity and cost have skyrocketed, the segment has been segmented into a HEDT and Server grade CPU line.

    It's not going to happen.
     
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    That is sad to hear.

    I wasn't in the market at the time, but always assumed when ready, I could pick up the next generation of the P570WM. Again, so sad to hear this. :(
     
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    It would be nice, but when you consider the vast majority of people are looking for something extra cheap, thin and light, and so willing to accept jokebooks to stay within those parameters, it make sense. Not many people are interested in truly powerful mobile workstations, so I can understand why the ODMs are not going to invest time and money in building better quality products. They can make more money selling tons of the cheap junk that represents the typical consumer purchase. But, understanding that does nothing to change the abject lameness and sadness of that situation for those of us that want something awesome. The lowest common denominators generally win in most areas of life because they are in the majority and the truly discriminating segment of the population represents a comparatively tiny minority.
     
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    Spoken well. Most people just buy a laptop and then replace it in 1-3 years along with smartphones, cars et cetera. Most people don't think about long term investments and instead only see the world in the short term. They don't seem to realise that keeping something functional for 5, 10 or possibly more years will save them money in the long term. Headphones are a good example: look at how many people buy those crappy Apple things for 30 dollars and then have to replace them every 6 months as the damn things are so fragile. In 5 years at that rate they will have spent 300 dollars on headphones - if they had spent that amount up front on something that was durable and actually had some sound quality then they would easily last over 5 years with careful use.
     
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    That's a really good example (headphones). I think it's sad that so many cannot even grasp the concept of being committed to having a healthy relationship with another human being for that long.
     
  10. Danishblunt

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    Welp thats sad. Guess micro ITX it is then.
     
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    You don't have to overspend to get a decent product that will last. On the example of earphones: I had a ~$300 pair of Etymoics years ago. One of the earphones started to fail after about a year and a half. I've since had a ~$50 pair of TTPODs and a ~$70 pair of Velodynes that are going strong after 2 - 3 years of use.

    Not all bad experiences with products speak to a brand's, or a design's overall quality. Luck is a fickle creature. :vbsmile:
     
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    The mainstream chipset with some competition from AMD should hopefully be tightened up a bit, I think it's the most sensible platform to develop. Highest per thread performance, enough cores for most people, no huge socket stealing unecessary board space.