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    Adding an M.2 SSD

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by blefish, Feb 22, 2017.

  1. blefish

    blefish Newbie

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    Hello

    I recently bought a Adata SU800 256GB M.2 SSD card, which is supposedly using SATA interface.

    My laptop is N240JU, which has total of 3 slots, slot 2 is supposedly for SSD and it supports SATA/PCIE 3x2 interface. However, upon plugging in the SSD, it doesn't show up in BIOS. SATA port 0 is already filled with a standard 2.5 inch SSD, and I added the newly bought SSD to the M.2 slot.

    Is there a compatibility issue?

    Regards
    Rudolf
     
  2. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Make sure it's inserted fully and screwed down. Also see if it appears in disk manager?
     
  3. Mr. Fox

    Mr. Fox BGA Filth-Hating Elitist®

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    Might not hurt to be sure Secure Boot is disabled in the BIOS. Sometimes that makes new drives invisible.
     
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    Prostar Computer Company Representative

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    I remember when Secure Boot and Windows' Fast Startup were the bane of my existence... Oh wait, they still are!
     
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    Mr. Fox BGA Filth-Hating Elitist®

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    Ha ha, mine too! Secure Poot Boot and Secure Flash are just an anti-consumer PITA gimmick to make the paranoid feel safer and the control freak OEMs that insist on using it to feel like digital gods.

    Macro$loth and their Windows Fast Startup gimmick is just as silly. But, isn't it funny that people that brag about abnormally fast boot times often think of their system as being fast, even when it is not?

    I guess it's all a matter of individual perception rather than facts.
     
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    Perception v.s reality, huh?

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  7. blefish

    blefish Newbie

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    After some research about this issue at my local reseller (Ordi), they said that this particular board only supports PCIE M.2 cards. So I will replace mine and feed back, whether it works.
    I did try messing with BIOS as much as I could, but it's very limited and no options helped.
     
  8. Meaker@Sager

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    It depends on the board it seems:

    One Changeable 2.5" 7mm (h) SATA HDD/SSD (Factory Option for Core i7-6500U/i5-6200U/i3-6100U/Celeron 3955U) One M.2 SATA/PCIe Gen3 x4 Solid State Drive (SSD) (Factory Option for Pentium 4405U/Celeron 3855U) One M.2 PCIe Gen2 x2 Solid State Drive (SSD)

    So for pentium 4405U and Celeron 3855U models it's PCI-E only, for all others it should be able to take either.
     
  9. Mr. Fox

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    Well, that really sucks. I wonder why they would make core functionality so limited and inflexible like that?
     
  10. blefish

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    It seems that initially I had an older manual that didn't cover this properly. I got the proper one from here ( https://repo.palkeo.com/clevo-mirror/N2xxJU/). This is pretty self explanatory indeed:

    One Changeable 2.5" 7mm (h) SATA HDD/SSD

    (Factory Option for Core i7-6500U/i5-6200U/i3-6100U/Celeron 3955U) One M.2 SATA/PCIe Gen3 x4 Solid State Drive (SSD)

    (Factory Option for Pentium 4405U/Celeron 3855U) One M.2 PCIe Gen2 x2 Solid State Drive (SSD)
     
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    I would guess I/O limitations on the chip from intel.
     
  12. Mr. Fox

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    Oh, that could be. I had not noticed. All laptops with the same CPU and chipset are cursed with the same functional limitations?
     
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  13. Meaker@Sager

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    Intel usually cuts down on that sort of thing on the lower end chips.
     
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  14. blefish

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    So I ordered a different SSD (Intel 600P Series NVME SSD, M.2 Type 2280 (NGFF) - 256 GB). It uses PCI-E 3.0 x4 interface.

    My laptop only supports PCI-E 2.0 x2, so the read speed will probably be limited due to bus, however the card works.
    Worth noting is that although I couldn't see information about the SSD in the general tab, I was able to use it as a boot override, so the BIOS probably has NVME support in, which is nice.

    So my ventures end here, I am happy that I got it working.
     
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    Yes the NVME drives wont quite show the same way, I'm glad it's working for you. 2x should offer a lot of speed :)