Am I going to need to use ThottleStop

I have a brand new 9150, with a 3720 as the CPU. I notice during my test, Prime95 CPUZ reports the CPU tunning at 3Ghz. If I load up Kombuster at the same time, my CPU drops to 2.5 Ghz. I was hoping it to stay at 3Ghz. What you guys think?

 

Err dunno, but at 3 ghz, it's only running on one core anyway, so who cares. With something like Prime95 you want it running on 4 cores and all 8 logical cores.

 

Yes you'll need ThrottleStop to fix that. One thing that Clevo added in the EM series to not bump the consumption too much is that the laptop disables TurboBoost when both GPU and CPU are in use, for 3720QM in game you should constantly see it stay at 2.6GHz, but once you have ThrottleStop running, it'll stay at 3.4GHz most of the time when 4 cores are in use during gaming. This affects 3610QM as well.

 

It doesn't work that way hackness. At 3.4 ghz, it will be running on ONE core, that is what Turbo is. It doesn't ramp up on all four cores, it ramps it up, but only 2 cores and then just 1 core. 2.6 is when it is running on all 4 cores. If it's higher, then it's disabled a core.

 

What you are thinking is the TurboBoost 1.0 for 45nm i7 CPU, 2.0 for 32nm/22nm is slightly different, 2.0 allows TurboBoost to be applied to all 4 cores when the TDP is allowed, on my 3610QM in game with ThrottleStop on, I get 3.1GHz on 4 cores almost full time.

3720QM at single core runs at 3.6GHz by the way.

 

Nope, that's not how Turbo Boost 2.0 works. 2.0 just increases the how much higher the frequency goes, but it still functions the same. 1 core = maximum, 4 cores = much lower speeds.

4 cores is about 6 steps increase, 3 cores is 7, 9 steps is 2 cores and 10 step increase is 1 core. Each step is about increase of 100mhz.

 

Intel Core i7-3720QM Mobile processor - AW8063801013116

You might want to take a look at this.

 

Hackness is right. The new generation handles this much better.

 

Hulawafu77, hackness has just shown proof with his own monitoring, showing that in his system with Throttlestop, all 4 cores run at 3.1GHz, and yet you continue to say
"no that is not how it works." Jesus man, really?

Anyways, I have recorded instances in GTA IV where my 3610QM was hitting 3.1GHz on all 4 cores, but it isn't consistent. There are times where it stays at 3.1GHz for a 5 minutes and for no reason goes back to 2.3GHz.

 

My 3720qm stays at 3.4ghz on all 4 cores in prime. It never goes down, as long as demand for CPU is there. Having said that its running very cool, so if yours is a little hotter it may drop the speed to compensate.
Also, in kombustor CPU is not heavily utilized, which may be the reason its not running at its max.

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Back on-topic, guys. Please.
So right now, reading this (in the quotes) makes me want to NOT buy a new clevo this year.
Why? Because the EM series have all sorts of problems that my 150HM doesent have.
- I never had problems with trottling of any kind. Starcraft 2 and Diablo 3 show 3.3Ghz turboboost whenever under full CPU & GPU load without problems.
- Sound seems exactly the same in both EM and HM series. Some say Onkyo speakers make a difference, but its awful both ways.
- Sound card is EXACTLY the same.
- HM series have +1 more USB port. Yes, Ive got 5 USB ports total (including the combo one).
- I hate reading about enduro and its problems. HM series has ZERO issues and uses only dedicated graphics.
- in HM, the battery life is identical to the EM. How is that possible? Well, my 6990m downclocks when in battery mode and saves power enough for 100 minutes of movie watching.
- I can extend these 100 minutes of movie-watching by lowering screen brightness. And im watching movies in High-Performance mode!!!!
- the new Ivy Bridge CPUs arent that much of an improvement as I had hoped.

So tell me guys, why is this year's offerings from Clevo so bad? Why did AMD have to make ENDURO and cripple their wonderful GPUs?
Im hoping for 370EM to NOT have enduro or any kind of trottling, so it may actually work out for me.
But the way things are headed right now, its likely to have problems like the rest of the EM.

 

P150EM/170EM idle can last up to 4 hours almost 5 hours if only the iGPU is running.

Eurocom P370EM config shows Optimus on it, it might have Enduro if you go for AMD, although choosing 7970M doesn't change that option, it still shows Optimus on it... Well still need to see the review first, if it does have Enduro and by that time and if AMD still hasn't taken any actions, I bet people will avoid HD7970M in the P370EM at all cost.

Also another thing like we see on the P150EM/P170EM is that there's still a possibility that the P370EM might turn off Turbo boost when both dGPU are underload, hopefully 1st review gets to test on that as well.

 

I thought dual GPU laptops with SLI dont have Optimus. Imagine 3 video adapters running at the same time and NOT getting screen tearing at all. Highly unlikely.
Enduro, stay out of 370EM....we dont need Enduro there. If you care about battery life, why buy a dual GPU laptop with 300W power brick.
Both Optimus and Enduro have negative impacts on performance, so these are to be avoided in high-end performance laptops. Not to forget all the driver issues they bring with it.
On the other hand, manually switching between the iGPU, the dedicated GPU and SLI/Crossfire should be the best idea. This way you get to travel with the laptop, do some medium intensive tasks and then do the most demanding tasks with both dedicated GPUs switched on.

Here's to hoping 370EM wont be a failure.

 

ArticJoe do this test for me to see what result you have. Load up CPU-Z and then run Prime 95. You should see your cores at 3.2Ghz. Now keep that running and load up Kombuster. You will CPU-Z report your CPU dropping to 2.5 Ghz right away. If you close Kombuster your CPU jumps back up to 3.2 Ghz. with Throttlestop enable, that goes away.

I am disappointed Im having to do this on the best 15" gaming laptop. I hope they release a BIOS to enable or disable this feature.

 

You see what Clevo is cheating on here Sadly the only way to use the full potential on the EMs while gaming, is to download ThrottleStop to let the i7 run as it really should have been since the start.

 

This is a bunch of bull****. I have email my vendor and see what he responds to this. I am disappointed and upset right now. I read that the newer 9150 dont have this problem and only the smaller 11" model does.

 

Dude, there must be a Throttlestop for GPUs, no?

 

Heh, I disabled BD PROCHOT on my 3820QM and I got a nice fps bump in GTA4.