An Hp Quadro card on a Clevo m57ru ?

Guys my 8800gtx is leaving me, would this HP NVIDIA QUADRO FX1600M 451377 001 Graphics Card 512MB be compatible ? The seller said is just for hp but I'm not sure he knows what that is about... anD on fly bios update with standard fw could be possible in case of incompatibility?

 

if it's the correct MXM format/type. then yes. Clevo's take MXM cards.

 

This is the card

HP NVIDIA QUADRO FX1600M 451377 001 Graphics Card 512MB on eBay (end time 22-Oct-10 10:17:18 BST)

 

That is a huge downgrade. The FX 1600 is just a plain 8600m GT...
Your old 8800m GTX was a renamed 9800m GT....
I mean, the difference in performance and gaming will be huge. Its like going from a 9800m GT to a 9600m GT.

 

Hi thanks for your answer, I know it is a downgrade but at the moment would suits my needs, I don't want to spend over 250 € for this laptop now.

For major games I still have the mediacenter in the living room and this quadro should be allright to play Warcraft, of course the idea is to buy a 9800 gt/gts as soon as I can find a good bargain....

Hopefully I won't waste this 65 euro

 

Ah well, i can assure you that WOW on my bro 9600m GT with T9400 @ 2,66 runs maxed at 1280x720 with decent framerates.
Maybe on that FX 1600 it will perform a tad badder, but i guess it will sort your needs.

Anyway: Alienware m15x MXM HE NVidia 8800M GTX 512MB AS-IS * su eBay.it Graphics, Video TV Cards, Computer Components, Computers Networking

This is good and its 124 euros. Its an MXM HE type card pulled from M15x and its an 8800m GTX, althought there's a broken transistor in the back.

Are you by any chanche from europe? Your nick sounds like italian. If so, i may rework the price of my 9800m GT. And keep in mind that mine is a 9800m GT2, not a normal GT.

 

From the seller "Hi its not a prob of mxm slot. The mxm slot is the same as your clevo, but the bios is different. All hp version FX notebook graphic card does not come with regular video bios, and must work with HP motherboard. Regards,"

 

Yeah that may be true. The Vbios is HP oriented, however we saw FX 3700m like mines that are HP branded and they work on m860tu. Dunno about FX 1600 tho.

 

ALL of the HP Quadro FX *700m are 8730w branded, which is a pretty normal VBIOS and will usually work with other laptops.

BUT All of the HP FX *600m are 8710w branded.
The 8710w has a strange BIOS that whitelists certain video cards. The way it does this is by having some or most of the video BIOS on the system BIOS. SO...
The result is that all HP nvidia 8710w cards (the fx 1600m and 3600m) have a somewhat incomplete VBIOS loaded onto them, and they may not work with your built in LCD.

This really is not a big problem though, they are still a perfect fit MXM slot 100% electrically compatible. All you need to do is find a VBIOS for a similar card architecture and flash it over to that card.
Its actually an advantage and not that difficult to do.

The fx 1600m is actually not too bad, its more equivalent to a 8700m. So that would be the first BIOS to try, but also you could try:
-9650m (slightly different clocks) or even
-9700m (higher clocks, could need increased voltage)
-9600m, 8600m etc will work.

The only difference in these BIOS models will be the voltage and clocks. The thing is the actual models may be more efficient than 80nm process, so the clocks will be too high for the voltage on the 1600m. All of this can be adjusted with NIBITOR vbios editor.

 

That's great info thanks a lot, would I be able to do a blind flash or I'd need to do some tricks with the 8800gtx ??

 

You can do a blind flash or use an external monitor through DVI worked for me.

The 3600m work with 9800gt bioses even though they are based on the 8800m gts with 32 less pixel shaders.

 

What's wrong with the 8800GTX?
Have you considered "baking" it?

 

have you checked the NBR marketplace recently, there is an 8800m gtx from a Sager on there right now. I just bagged me one not too long ago in hopes of getting my NP5793 up and running too after my graphics card died, here's the link if your interested in buying.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/computer-components/525122-8800m-gtxs-e8400-eo-cpu.html

 

Here is a good price on the fx 1600m / 8700m gt HP 8710P NW9440 GRAPHICS CARD 512MB 451377-001 Tested - eBay (item 250540740684 end time Oct-27-10 10:45:21 PDT)

 

Thanks for the tip, the seller seems reluctant to sell it to me so I might just ignore that auction for the moment.

Started flashing and doing the usual weird stripes/dots, I can use it with the win drivers tho (2d) as soon as I try installing nvidia drivers windows freeze after the reboot.
I will for sure bake it next week when I can get when I'll get hold of a "real" hoven from a friend I don't think would be a smart move grilling or microwaving it ^^

Thank you for the suggestion but I am not going to get another 8800gtx.

Thank you very appreciated I'll check that out


PS I have found something that might be worth spending a few more bucks on:

512 MB GDDR3 GTS 9800M Nvidia GeForce Go; 16x PCIe; DX10; MXM 2.1 Type III [€224]

Not too bad isn't it ?

 

The link didn't work. I dunno... apparently gtx 260m will sell for 150$ on ebay sometimes.

 

I just copy pasted from the Eurocom pricelist

 

Hi Guys, I've been able to get a Lenovo 3700m for a fair price on ebay, hopefully will come in this week.

I'll keep you posted if you are interested on the final result.

Thanks to all of you guys for the help provided so far

 

Thats great mate
When you get your new card, join us in the thread "best fx 3700m drivers installed as gtx 280m ...." etc located in this section.
We're experimenting different bioses and benchmarks, so ill be glad to read your thoughts and your scores

 

Oh great! Will do, love experimenting things

 

You should also try flashing it to a gtx 280m

Has that been tried before with a lenovo card?
not sure I think it has... but these cards vary so much its worth a try

 

I still dont understand why mine flashed as gtx 280m gives black screen.
If i install it as gtx 280m (driver level) it works perfecy. Meh !

 

Sad news...

I installed the card pc working on the background but I get a black screen (also on external DVI display).

And the weirdest thing now, if I put back the old card I get the same result black screen while I can hear the laptop booting in windows normally.

What went wrong ?

Could any of you provide me an iso I can write on a cd to do some kind of blind flash ?

Thank you in advance.

 

Try taking out the CMOS battery for a while, that might get the old GPU to work with it again.

 

Thank you, I thought about it but I haven't find it while I was semi-raging yesterday. I'll give it a go later after work

 

Guys give me a hand cause I dismantled the all notebook and still can't see a (no even on dvi) with either cards, Took out battery and even a blind bios flash. Have u got a bootable iso to trying a vbios blind flash on one of the cards ?

 

blind vbios nvflash with old card i get this:


*** NVFLASH LOG FILE ***
Version 5.57


Command: flash

ERROR: No NVIDIA display adapters found
Exit Code: 2


this is redicolous

 

The absurd thing is the pc going in windows on the background, is it possible to find a mobo for a cheap price or would you suggest to scrapping the parts and selling on ebay ?

 

Sounds like you might have fried your MXM slot.

Did you remember to take your main battery out when changing cards?

 

yeah.........

 

Ive done that before.

I also shorted my HE tab to a grounding screw on with my GPU casing a few days ago.

That was with no power so it must have been from a capacitor. My laptop is running strong without issues...
Seriously...
Why is the m570ru so much less hardy and durable than the m860tu? It doesn't make sense.
SO many people have been having issues.

 

It's also older...

 

don't recall anyone getting a lenovo fx3700m working in a clevo laptop I thought this was already discussed?

 

Seems that someone was wrong, mmmmmh!

Sorry ilgello for your laptop, I have warned you before not to use a non-Clevo card in a Clevo laptop.

 

And how do you know that this was because he used a non-Clevo card?

The notebook could be dead for many other reasons.

 

Kaltmond was one who kept saying they didn't work, and they had strange temp sensors, but he never explained or discussed it. I think they do work 100% and someone has been using one although I don't remember who. There may have been issues with the temp sensors but if the notebook has good cooling its not really as much of an issue.

...And now we have ALL been warned 2 times, thanks, or was it more?

MH and I are running ES cpus with no temperature sensors. If our notebooks both die, will it be because the sp9400 was never approved to run our notebooks by clevo and MSI??

I honestly think that the only argument at all here is that you think Clevo knows more than we do, well, thats just not something that makes sense to argue.

For example while some of us here know comprehensive motherboard diagnosis and repair and could tell us precisely the potential risks and exact electrical differences of using branded cards in other notebooks. All clevo can tell us is that they designed and produced laptops that work as a whole in the way that they did it and thats how they continue to do it because they are a notebook manufacturer.

If you talk to Clevo and HP and the full story of exactly whats going on electrically then I honestly will bow down to you!

 

Improperly installing a graphics card is not the cards fault.....seriously other people have the hp card working just fine its already well known that the lenovo card will not work properly.

niffcreature I only recall his card partially working, it would only display on a external screen.

I believe he also tried flashing the vbios moral hazard was using from his hp card.

ilgello what was the actual issue you where having with the 8800m gtx?

 

Come on.... Both of us know that you will not bow down to me if i do that. In the contrary, you will hate me more because you will loose your hard-work promotion that you are doing here in almost all your posts in order to resell the tens of HP-Branded FX3700M, FX3600M.....etc, that you have...
Sorry moderator, I know that this is off-subject, but really, over is over!

 

Ok...So is it dangerous or not using that cards on RU?
And what rebranded non-clevo fx 3700m cards do you sell niffcreature?Hp or lenovo?

 

They are HP. And they are not rebranded. They are HP cards that I have in no way tried to make seem like they were made BY clevo.
They simply MXM cards made by HP that seem to adhere not only to the electrical MXM specification but to the type of OEM VBIOS totally nonbranded cards tend to have that works on nearly all higher end MXM 2.1 laptops that were meant to have upgrade capabilities.

There is no factual evidence that these cards are dangerous whatsoever. 2 peoples laptops have failed while running an hp 3700m, you can see in this thread that 1 of these cases seems to have been because of improper installation, while the other story can be found in other threads here in this section.

No. Your wrong. Its sad because I almost believe you would be able to convince them to tell you.
I would 100% honestly love to know some of the secrets that only the manufacturer knows, I don't know if you have some connections with clevo but if you do I am totally serious when I say you would become very popular very fast here as soon as you realized how to use this to make an actual contribution to the forum community.
I dont even hate you, just trying to figure you out...

As far as the tens of 3700m and 3600m i have... Its just funny that youd think that! I've sold like, 3 3700m here!
I've done it mainly to help out people from other countries who cant find them, because lets face it, why would someone buy from from me when they are just as cheap if not cheaper on Ebay??

I had 5 3600m which I did not sell here at all. I sold all 5 of them on Ebay as 9800m / 8800m gts for Alienwares. They had 9800m vbios on them and all of my buyers are happily running them now in their various laptops. One guy is a member here even though he bought from me on ebay, I chat with him sometimes.

I now have 8 fx 1600m which do not work at all with other laptops and have a no flashable EEPROM. So YEAH if I start to sell those as clevo cards obviously i am being dishonest! but I'm not doing that!

Sorry for the long post and being extremely topic, everybody.
I'm just a guy who has a particular interest in MXM cards.
This has just been bothering me for too long especially that its the 2nd something like this has happened to me...
I have no secretive plots or vast quantities of dirty MXM cards that are going to destroy everyones laptops...

Is there something about the way I defend myself that makes it sound like I'm just a horrible outright liar?
I just do not understand...