Any 4Ghz mobile cpus on the horizon?

Hi. The T9900 Core2Duo mobile Centrino processor in my 9850 is pretty good. But I play a lot of emulators that require lots of CPU speed so some games are struggling to keep up on this machine. The PS2 Emu PCSX2 for example, needs about 3.8-4.0Ghz of processing speed to run games at full speed and doesn't support more than two cores. So I am wondering, are there any Core2Duo mobile processors on the horizon that are clocked at 4.0Ghz or higher? If so, will I be able to stick one in my 9850, replacing the T-9900 I have in there now?

 

No.

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how do you know for sure? There could be one and you're just not aware of it.

 

Overclock your FSB, you will get 4ghz (I can help with this).

 

He is right. unless you overclock, it's not going to happen.

 

Soviet Sunrise always knows for sure.

 

The "fastest" CPU ever released was the Prescott 2M Pentium 4 clocked at 3.8GHz on November 14, 2005. It was also the hottest chip Intel has ever produced at 115W TDP until the release of the Bloomfield Core i7 at 130W TDP three years later on November 18, 2008.

 

Weren't some of the Xeon models rated at higher than 115W TDP? I don't know which models, but I remembered at least some were rated at 120W?

More curious than anything else.

 

Forgive me, I was referring only to consumer desktop CPU's. But yes, there are quite a handful of Xeon and Itanium chips that exceeded 115W TDP.

As for the mobile CPU's, the "fastest" and hottest ever made was the Prescott Mobile Pentium 4 clocked at 3.46GHz with 88W TDP on January 4, 2005.

 

Also known as the, "Virtual Vasectomy..."

 

I have my x9100 at 3415 mhz and pcsx2 and dolphin works at 100% most of the time.
BTW my laptop is a M980NU.

 

are you overclocking? if so, what is the default speed of your processor?

and which ps2 games are running full speed on your machine?

 

The CPUs don't need to be 4 ghz anymore.

A 2.0 ghz i7 mobile is equal to a 3.2 ghz qx9300.

It's to the point that the arch. Improvements reduce the need for a 4 ghz CPU

 

isamu. When I play my usual games on PCSX2, my 920XM will push itself to as high as 3.06GHz on two cores, which is more than enough to run some of the most intensive titles. Though I'm sure you already know this, but the primary bottleneck still remains in the emulator's code and how it attempts to handle each individual game. Some games are easy to code to run on PCSX2 and some are not. For example, I have a few games that run buttery smooth while some of my other games cannot exceed 10fps due to the emulator's engine. And believe me, I tried it on 4.2GHz i7 920's.

 

There are no stock 4GHz core processors on the market full stop, the only processors that fast are overclocked.
If the emulator recommends that, then its either talking about P4, or simply put the emulation just isn't efficient enough. I'd be highly surprised if it really needs a 4Ghz processor, the Wii emulator doesnt need that!

Either way, you're not likely to see a 4Ghz default clock speed processor for a while as the current architectures get to hot for them to comfortably provide these speeds with the stock cooling, and allow comfortable safety margins. A lot of I7s can reach the 3.6+ region, but they don't guarantee it.

 

>.> seeing as how he is here on the forums asking about this, odds are he hasn't even tried to use the emulator and even more likely doesn't know how to configure it as I can run most games on my msi laptop at 2.7ghz.

 

The default speed of the x9100 is 3,06 ghz, i overclocked it with nvidia system tools.

I got full speed on my machine with almost all of them, turning on the speed optimizations of the emulator.Tekken 5, God of war, Gran Turismo 4, Ibara, Mushihime Sama, Time Crisis CZ, etc...

 

I'm not going to contribute productively.

-I'm going to say our OP is one of those people who are obsessed with numbers. They think they know what they're talking about, but really don't. Those people irritate me the most.

Exactly or a large troll. Don't feed him.

 

The 620M will turbo to 3.06 ghz on both cores, stock. Thanks to architecure improvements, the 620M is considerably faster than the identically clocked T9900. Even for the 920XM, it takes overclocking to get that high of clockspeed on two cores.

For gamers, I would argue for the 620M at least over the 720M.

 

I'd bet a 620M could hit 4Ghz easy with manual overclocking...but I don't know of anything that would let you OC them.

That 32nm die is loving the overclocks in the desktops Clarksdale, with the i5-670 hitting 5.4Ghz on air cooling and breaking 7Ghz with liquid nitrogen.

 

hope .... a unlocked bios would be nice... I am waiting to see what my M17x will have for the non extreme processor. One can only hope like we did for the last release with the core 2 duo arch.-

 

Thanks for the tidbit.

I assume you are still running on your W870CU?

 

My W870CU has been a paperweight for about two weeks now ever since I removed the GPU and sold it. Now I'm just waiting for RJTech to finalize their price for the GTX 285M so I can buy it by the end of this week. Right now I'm temporarily using an Asus Eee PC 1201N as my primary notebook.

 

Jesus Christ, oversensitive much? I am not a computer whiz and don't know hardly anything about PC processors, etc. But I enjoy using emulators particularly the PCSX2 one. So I started this thread in hopes of finding out if anyone else uses the PCSX2 emu and what processor they have and the kind of speed they're getting. And whether or not 4.0Ghz is required to get full speed or is overkill.

How you've managed to misinterpret that as trolling, someone who is obsessed with numbers, or coming off as someone who thinks he's a 'Know it all', is beyond me.

I have tried the Wii emu on my laptop and have achieved very good results on two games....F-ZeroGX and new Super Mario Bros. Wii. I haven't tried the PCSX2 emu yet because my PS2 games are still in a box being stored at a relative's house, where my desktop machine is. Soon as I get them back I will try it out.

To the rest of you, thanks for your replies, they were helpful.

 

The Dolphin emulator is very good. The dev team usually optimizes the popular games first. I have a whole bunch of Wii games that I want to play but can't due to unplayable conditions. Dolphin is still fairly young, but it will be a very good Wii emulator in a few years time. However, it will play most of the GameCube games fairly well.

 

I agree. The fact that they've been able to optimize it to play some wii games at nearly full speed *this* quickly is nothing short of impressive.

 

Here's when the developers could work to improve engine, and scalability of their program - additionally the original game may have had rather inefficient coding.

In terms of raw clock speed, Intel won't go near 4 Ghz anytime soon, it's taken them years to realise, through trial and error (seen with P4) - that the sweet spot for computing power lies at south of 130W TDP, and under 4 Ghz per core, even with newer manufacturing techniques.

Ever since Core 2 days, they've been careful about going above 3 Ghz - whether dual or quad. If they did launch something off the chart, it may work well in the short-run, however not only the power consumption, the heat generated be disproportionate, it also may result in compromised long term reliability; all while offering diminishing marginal performance gain, not to mention it could potentially limit their future sales. When they aren't facing drastic competition, in terms of clock-per-clock performance from AMD, why should they intentionally raise the bar higher than necessary - and risk being a victim of its own success?

Rather developing higher frequency single cores, what the chip makers are doing these days is in improving the multiple-core parallel processing performance; part of which is constantly enhancing the efficiency of any given architecture, basically increasing the clock-for-clock performance, as well as scaling efficiency between different logical cores at once. Eventually advancing into improving the multi-threading performance; increasing the performance by the factors of no. cores, rather than individual core clock.

Those 32nm CPUs do have tonnes of OC'ing margin, I really can't wait for the mobile i7 refresh... starting to save now.