Any Canadians Purchase From XoticPC?

I am looking to purchase from Xotic instead of Eurocom because I like their configurations better. However, I am curious of what is in store for me if I were to make this purchase.

If I order a laptop from Xotic, I am assuming I am responsibe for Canadian taxes (GST+PST?), shipping fees (no idea how much this would be, I'm in Ontario), and any US-Canada fees (again, I have no idea).

So if my laptop is currently $2429, what am I looking at? Any Canadians like to share their experience?

 

See this:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=285335

 

whats wrong with eurocom?? they should have the exact same config and will compete with xotics prices. i see you live in ontario. that means only 5% tax, which is only 100$, and 39$ shipping. im going to order from them.

ordering from xoticpc... you will pay shipping ( at least 60) and brokerage ontop of that (about 80). you then have to pay GST and PST totaling over 300$. you pay this to the UPS driver who delivers it when it gets to your door.

so for you, ontop of 2500$, your looking at atleast 2800$

eurocom can compete, saving you alot of money, its also easier to return back to eurocom

hoped that helped

 

Eurocom just smashed XoticPC's price (when buying from Canada) for me:

Eurocom D90xC Phantom-X
17" WUXGA
Core 2 Quad Q9550 2.83 GHz, 12MB L2 Cache
Dual 512MB DDR3 9800M GT in SLI
4GB DDR2 RAM, 800 MHz
200GB HDD @ 7.2k RPM
320GB HDD @ 5.4k RPM
Windows Vista Home Premium 64-bit
Intel WiFi Link 5300
3 year return to depot warranty
Default laptop bag
2MP integrated webcam

Total: $3,570 CAD / $3,362 USD (as of today)
This total includes tax (no shipping as I am picking it up from them)

 

wow thats an amazing deal... i just configed it and it came to over 4200$i wonder what sort of deal i can get on 570Tu, which comes to about 2450$ CAD.

 

In Canada, you still have to pay both the PST and GST...
But that's still no reason to not go for Eurocom as long as the prices are competitive.

 

actually you can choose how you get taxed... either a student discount for ontario and quebec, letting you only pay 5% tax. theres a few other options but this one works for me and i think many others

 

That is not true. I live in Northwest Territories where there is NO PST. Many provinces do not have PST.

EUROCOM D90xC PHANTOM-X $5,234 CAD
System and Display EUROCOM D901C PHANTOM-X; 17-inch; Widescreen; WUXGA 1920-by-1200 pixels; UltraSharp with Glossy Surface; Black Chassis $2,999
Built-in WebCam for Video Conferencing, Skype Ready 2.0 Megapixels; WebCam; internal USB interface
Biometric Security Device - Log on to your PC or Web sites with the touch of your finger None - Choose from the options below
VGA Technology SLI; 1GB Video with 2x 512MB GDDR3 Nvidia GeForce Go 9800M GT; 16x PCI-e; DX10 $850
Upgradeable Processor Intel Quad Core 2 Processor Q9550; 2.83 GHz; FSB1333; 12MB L2; LGA775; PENRYN 45nm; 95W $345
Memory Configuration 4GB; 2x 2GB; DDR2-800; 200pin; PC2-6400; CL5; 256Mx64 - 2 SODIMMs $220
Hard Drive: Choose Regular, Hybrid or Solid State Drive(s) 200GB; SATA-300; 7,200rpm; up to 3Gb/s; 16MB cache; 2.5-inch $60
2nd Hard Drive 320GB; SATA; 5,400rpm; 8MB cache; 2.5-inch $295
3rd Hard Drive Choose your 3rd Hard Drive from the options below:
Hard Drive(s) Setup i.e. Multiple Partitions, RAID 0,1,5 etc None - Choose from the options below
External Hard Drive for Data Backup or Network Storage (NAS) None - Choose from the options below
Choose Your Keyboard (Language) English; US & Canada
Operating System(s) English; Microsoft Windows VISTA Home Premium; 64-bit; OEM Edition; DVD $125
Optical Drive - to Backup large capacity HDDs and to Store data-rich digital content 8x Multi DVD +-RW/-RAM Burner; Dual-Layer; Tray-based; w/ Software
Graphics eXpansion Modules for Surround Design None - Choose from the options below
Internal TV Tuner None - Choose from the options below
ExpressCard Adapters None - Choose from the options below
Wireless LAN 802.11a/b/g WLAN; SuperG@108Mpbs; PCIe NAPA; Gigabyte GN-WI07HT-RH $95
Bluetooth for Wireless Devices None - Choose from the options below
Office and Business Productivity Software None - Choose from the options below
AntiVirus, Security and Utilities Software None - Choose from the options below
Gaming Software None - Choose from the options below
Gaming Accessories None - Choose from the options below
Internal Card Reader 7-in-1 Card Reader; MMC/RSMMC/SD/Mini-SD/MS/MS Pro/MS Duo
Standard Battery (internal) 12-cells Smart Li-Ion battery
Standard AC Adapter 220W AC Adapter; 100-240V; Auto-switching
Standard Power Cord - included US / Canada Power Cord
Carrying Case D900 Carry Case; up to 17-inch; Ballastic Nylon; Black
Choose Your Warranty Plan 3 Years Return to Factory Depot with 3 Years of Tech Support $245


$5,915 after 13% tax, from Ontario

I saved $2,345 off the original listing. Match pricing at Eurocom WORKS!

THANKS to you, Eurocom!!!

 

that is an insane price save. i wonder if i can get the 570Tu for under 2000$

 

Wow, now that I look at it, Eurocom might be the way to go. I just wasn't pleased with some of the costs associated with their upgrade options (compared to Xotic), but the additional fees more than cancel those out.

And Eurocom has a student discount? I was not able to find this on their website. If I only have to pay $39 shipping and 5% tax, I will buy my computer right now.

 

I selected GOV/MED/EDU tax. No clue what it means but hopefully it works out. Ill be sure to update you guys I am supposed to get billed on Friday and the laptop shipped Monday or Tuesday.

Heres my order just incase anyone was interested:

System and Display EUROCOM M860TU Montebello; 15.4-inch; Widescreen; WSXGA+; 1680x1050 pixels; UltraSharp; Glossy Surface $1,899
Built-in WebCam for Video Conferencing, Skype Ready 2.0 Megapixels; WebCam; internal USB interface
Biometric Security Device - Log on to your PC or Web sites with the touch of your finger Integrated Fingerprint Reader for Secure Data Access and Easy Management of Passwords
Optical Drive - to Backup large capacity HDDs and to Store data-rich digital content 8x Multi DVD +-RW/-RAM Burner; Dual-Layer; Tray-based; w/ Software
Upgradeable Processor 2.2GHz P8400 Intel Core 2 Duo Mobile; FSB1066; 3MB L2; 45nm; 25W $-,160
VGA Technology 512MB GDDR3; ATi Radeon HD-3870; DX10; 16x PCIe $-,300
Graphics eXpansion Modules for Surround Design None - Choose from the options below
Memory Configuration 2GB; 2x 1GB; DDR3-1066; 204-pin - 2 SODIMMs $-60
Turbo Memory - Breakaway performance meets energy conservation None; Choose from the options below
Hard Drive: Choose Regular, Hybrid or Solid State Drive(s) 160GB; SATA-300; 7,200rpm; up to 3Gb/s; 8MB cache; 2.5-inch
Hard Drive(s) Setup i.e. Multiple Partitions, RAID 0,1,5 etc Standalone configuration; regular setup; single partition; single O/S
External Hard Drive for Data Backup or Network Storage (NAS) None - Choose from the options below
Operating System(s) None - Choose from the options below
Choose Your Keyboard (Language) English; US & Canada
ExpressCard Adapters None - Choose from the options below
Wireless LAN None - Choose from the options below
Bluetooth for Wireless Devices None - Choose from the options below
Office and Business Productivity Software None - Choose from the options below
AntiVirus, Security and Utilities Software None - Choose from the options below
Standard Battery (internal) 8-cells Smart Li-lon Battery
Standard AC Adapter 120W AC Adapter; 100-240V Auto-Switching
Standard Power Cord - included US / Canada Power Cord
Carrying Case None - Choose from the options below

-5% Student Discount
+5% Gov/Med/Edu Tax
Total = $1379CA

 

what do you mean - 5% student discount? when i talked to them. the student discount was on the tax, from what i understand and what was told, the Gov/Med/Edu tax is only 5% because thats what students save.the government gives the discount to students going to school.

i may be wrong about this but this is what i was told. i would be happoer if i was wrong.

 

link1313, if you are going to buy the M860TU and remove everything, why don't you just go for the cheaper NP2902 (don't know what Eurocom calls it, they may not sell it now) 15" notebook? Try looking into that, they may have it just not listed.

 

http://www.eurocom.com/ ---> Click on 'Future' ---> Then click on 'Students'

Im fairly positive a discount if different than tax. It says nothing about the tax in there.

Well I didn't remove everything . I already have an operating system, will transfer my wireless card from my old laptop (which is turning into a desktop), and I have no need for bluetooth or express slot. Also I would prefer to own a Clevo instead of a Compal.

 

I was not aware of this. Where is the option to choose this student discount? It never came up throughout the entire ordering process and UPS never gave me the chance to bring up any discounts.

edit: oh, you mean from eurocom?

 

I'm about to place my order and also noticed the GOV/MED/EDU (5% only) tax option and was curious what that meant. I am a student...but does this only pertain to government, medical, and educational employees?

 

I just priced out my M860TU on Eurocoms site... 2700, From Xotic it's costing 2150+150 for the CAN/US currency convesion+ another $2-300 in tax... totaling max $2500Can still saving at least $200 ordering from the US. The Eurocom site also has several options for order that shouldn't be available for the notebook.

 

You need to deal with more than just currency conversion when buying from the USA, assuming you buy with Visa (or any other bank funds in US). However, your price estimate of $2,500 is accurate.

(assuming this is total with shipping)
$2,150 USD = $2,347.99 CAD (including 2.5% Visa conversion rate)
+ customs taxes ($5 + 5%) = $2,470.64 CAD from XoticPC

However, Eurocom will do this (I can confirm this):

XoticPC USD = $X USD
Eurocom will sell it for: $X CAD + shipping ($39/$59, depending) + tax (5% if student or in NT, NU, AB, etc. that have no PST/HST)

Therefore...

Eurocom price:
$2,150 CAD + $59 (worst case scenario) + 5% = $2,319.45 CAD from Eurocom

I am giving Eurocom the awareness they deserve. So many people (me included) do not know that they will bargain. They can, being direct Clevo distributors, like Sager. They don't ONLY sell the notebooks like the US resellers, they build them and sell them. Some of the other resellers probably buy from them as well as Sager.

If I was in the USA, I would probably go for either PNB or XoticPC. But, being Canada, you might as well get from Eurocom. That way, if you have an issue, you only need to mail it within Canada.

 

I'm not saying there is anything wrong with Eurocom. I did hate their website layout though admittedly.. but when I configured the same laptop from Xotic PC and from Eurocom with as close to the same options as possible.. there was a $550 difference... I checked again today because of the exchange rate shift since I originally ordered... When I ordered the dollars were on par so it made sense to go with the US, now that the dollars aren't the same I checked back with Eurocom just to see if it was still worth it and as best as I could tell.. it wasn't.

 

umm have you been following the posts here? It's been mentioned several times (incl the post you just quoted) that Eurocom will price match with XotiC's prices..but you have to call them. That's what it means by pricematching...it doesn't automagically happen on the website quotes.

 

I called and they were very friendly to me. Obviously, if they are a distributor, they can easily match XoticPC's prices. XoticPC is paid to sell Sager notebooks; they do not even build the computer there. XoticPC makes their money from warranty and excellent future support (and knowledge of the Clevo/Sager products). Whereas, Eurocom makes their money from both support and direct distribution and sales of the Clevo machines.

 

@ whoever was talking about student discounts

i didnt know and wasnt told about the student discount from eurocom. i only knew about the 5% tax, which is the government giving us a discount since were students... but it says this on the eurocom site;

Eurocom Graduate Program
Qualified graduates are eligible to receive a 5% discount off a purchase of the selected EUROCOM notebook or LCD PC models.

Currently, we offer a graduate discount on all regular price models.


The 5% graduate discount has to be approved by Eurocom Corporation before the purchase is made.
The Graduate Program applies only to purchases made directly from Eurocom Corporation.
The Graduate Program cannot be combined with other programs or specials, i.e. Trade In program, Upgrade Specials.

Graduate Eligibility
Canadian and US residents who graduated in past 2 years from an accredited Canadian or US university, college (two-year program minimum) or high school that is recognized by the Ministry of Education.

Proof of eligibility
A letter confirming graduation from the school's Registrar's Office.

now what i dont get is why we need a laptop AFTER we graduate... dont we kind of need it when we are in school???? im going to phone next week and ask, since i am in high school now. i dont see why a university student needs a laptop after graduating... it just seems strange.

 

Where is the information for the 5% GST-only tax? I can't find it on any government site or Google.

 

go to eurocom and build a notebook. go to review it and look on the window that pops up. theres options of shipping, taxes and finances, as well as how you will pay

 

I know that, but how does it work? Where does this tax discount come from?

Is it for students or educational professionals?

 

It is probably too late for me to get the graduate discount. I already purchased the notebook.

 

huh!??!

Ontario Taxes = GST+PST = 13%

Xotic PC offers UPS Express shipping to Canada for $110 which will include your brokerage fees

You would want to go with Eurocom especially if you're in Ontario because it will ease the pain of returns/repairs/warranty stuff.

I'm going to have my laptop shipped to my parents in Montreal (Quebec), thus only having to pay the 5% tax

 

yes it is 13% - - -
but build a notebook on eurocom and continue all the way through. theres different options to choose from for which taxes you want to get taxed on. i think and am just guessing that the gov/med/edu tax refers to that if you work for the government or medical fields or go to school is canada, then the canadian or ontario government gives you a discount on the taxes.

anyone can back me up on this or am i way off??

 

I think the 'edu' bracket would be for education professionals like university professors, administrators, teachers, and the likes. It must be some sort of government tax exemption, but i'm sure you'd need to have proof or a tax exemption form or something.

For students, eurocom offers a 5% student discount on the price of your laptop, but you'd still have to pay the full 13% taxes.

 

yea im gonna see whats going on and phone them again tomorrow.

 

Haha. I could have gotten the additional 5% with a letter from the University. Oh well. My two years since graduation is up this October, 2008. Couldn't have affording this notebook without it.

Mechanical Engineering FTW!

 

Well.. I just called up Eurocom to see what they can do... the guy I spoke to basically said I was better off ordering from the US because Xotic PC was offering the computer at $2104 (US) and plan on shipping them out today/Monday and Eurocom is selling them for 2637-5% student discount=2503.

So the pre tax and pre shipping prices after discounts.
XoticPC: $2104
Eurocom: $2503.


The guy at Eurocom said that they don't match prices, but said to E-mail me the configuration from XoticPC and he'll look into it. He also said they aren't getting theirs in the warehouse until the end of next week... whereas Xotic PC has already started burn-ins.


EDIT: The model is the NP8660/ M860TU

 

sorry if I missed it, but which model are you talking about?

 

Sounds like you didn't get the same people as me, Frank, and the others. Some of their reps do, in fact, match price. The two that worked on my order did.

 

XoticPC's price after everything is $2,506.21 CAD. So, Eurocom + tax and shipping will be higher. It's up to you on whether you want to deal with the USA or CAD for your warranty.

Keep in mind that I matched a D901C/NP9262.

 

I called Eurocom yesterday to place my order and the gentleman that I was speaking to said that they would indeed price match, but he himself couldn't do it and that he would have to forward me to another sales rep. The other sales rep wasn't available at the time and I left a message on his voicemail. One of the sales reps is currently out of town and another gentleman is covering for him (the message said). I didn't get a call back and I will call again on Monday.

I pre-ordered Warhammer Online yesterday and I really want my laptop! Ah!