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    Any hope of running a m390x in Clevo P150(EM)

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by aggie113, Jun 20, 2015.

  1. aggie113

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    I have been waiting and waiting and waiting for AMD to finally release a true upgrade to my 7970m and not just a rename. Of course now I fear I will be unable to update due to no driver/bios support. Does anyone have information to the contrary?
    I'm thinking my next gaming laptop will be a MSI so I can actually upgrade it down the road.
     
    aggie113, Jun 20, 2015
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    Oh, alternate future, it could turn out that the m390x is a smoking piece of re-badged shat again. Initial press indicates otherwise but we shall see.
     
    aggie113, Jun 20, 2015
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    No way of knowing until it is launched and tested.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Jun 20, 2015
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    M390X is a M295X rebadge based on the GPU-Z from Computex that was posted and thus will not come in MXM form. You're better off getting a 970M or 980M which will run both cooler and faster.
     
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    I do wonder if we are getting fury x in mxm. I'd be interested in how it would do.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Jun 20, 2015
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    I think you mean Fury Nano. Fury X is unfeasible.
     
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    It's all the same chip but I would not disable any units as that hurts more than it helps.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Jun 20, 2015
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    Is it confirmed somewhere that it's the same chip? 100W TDP difference and single fan air cooler vs CLLC seems to indicate otherwise.
     
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    They are running it hard in the x. Drop the clocks and voltage and I'm sure the power will fall a decent amount.
     
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    100W doe. And 1050 MHz is not hard. Supposedly Fury X will have quite a bit of OC headroom according to AMD which means they aren't pushing it that hard. 290X was 1000-1050 MHz out of the box depending on reference or aftermarket and had little OC headroom (at least compared to Maxwell) even when custom water cooled.

    What will AMD do with the defective Fiji chips?
     
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    Oh desktop yes, but bad idea in the notebook, it will be the 480m all over again otherwise.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Jun 20, 2015
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    So why are you wondering about Fury on mobile? You just answered your own question.
     
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    Your best chance is a lower clocked full chip but what clocks and how good it would be is a different matter.
     
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    Oh, I can totally see it now. In order to bring that 275W Fury X down to 100W they run it at 400 MHz and 0.8V. We pay flagship mobile GPU price ($1000) for something which barely outperforms 7970M. :rolleyes:
     
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    That's it ! exactly :(
    Or you can buy a wonderfull Nvidia, that will cost you the same, perform better......and lock you out of the fabulous overclocking world :( :(.
    CMON AMD DO SOMETHING !
     
    Elipsus, Jun 21, 2015
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    We may have to wait a generation to start getting HBM on slightly more notebook friendly chip sizes.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Jun 21, 2015
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    The R9 Nano is supposed to have 85-90% of the performance of the Fury X so it's probably using a Fiji XT running at 900MHz. They can probably get it down to about 100W at 600-750 MHz.
     
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    Oh here comes @Link4 with his numbers again. As my old math teachers would say, "Show your work!" :D
     
    octiceps, Jun 22, 2015
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    I don't have access to clockrate vs power usage graphs, and math doesn't work here so it's just an estimate. In any case my estimate is on the conservative side, I wouldn't be surprised if they managed to get Fiji running at 700-800MHz.
     
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    It's best to wait and see regardless.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Jun 23, 2015
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    The M390x is a rebranded 290X. Granted it is not a rebranded 7970m but it is a rebranded something.
     
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    If you meant M290X then that was a rebranded 7970M, did you mean M295X?
     
    Meaker@Sager, Jun 23, 2015
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    Could be a copy and paste error. I've seen it before.
     
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    About ready to just give up on this laptop stuff. Not planning on working in Iraq or Afghanistan ever again. Maybe a desktop build for my x-mas gift to myself? :)
    Could always use another ESXi test server to play with and this one has 32gb of ram!
     
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    You should always get the device that best suits your needs.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Jul 16, 2015
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    Don't forget about AMD on P150EM. Just upgarde to GTX 9xxM.

    Gesendet von meinem SM-G920F mit Tapatalk
     
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    A fellow NBR user found a full Tonga M295X card in MXM3.0b available for purchase. I wonder if it would run in a Clevo laptop.

    Zentrica sells it in its online shop for 359 GBP.
     
    Marecki_clf, Jul 17, 2015
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    Hmz, only elpida memory chips though :/
     
    Meaker@Sager, Jul 18, 2015
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    Is this even from AMD? No CF brigde and elpida, e?
     
    kothletino, Jul 21, 2015
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