Any new 15-incher Clevo coming out soon?

Is there any new 15-incher Clevo that will come out in the near future? Or would the W860CU be King for a considerably long time from now?

 

The W860CU is pretty much state of the art, so there should be no new 15,6" high end chassis from Clevo until sandy bridge...

 

The low-end and mid-level bases are already covered by the 7652 and 2180, respectively.

 

The Sager 2180 isn't a Clevo; thats a rebranded Compal NBLB2.

The best I would hope for is for them to release a lighter 15" model with switchable graphics for good battery life and a potent graphics card like the 5850; those are sorely lacking in the market.

 

They might make a W860CU revision, just like they went from M570RU to M570TU to M570ETU. But that's just speculation.

 

I doubt that anything is coming anytime soon.
It just came out a little while ago, maybe like Blacky said a slight makeover but I'm guessing it will be more cosmetic than hardware related.

 

Not likely to have any new Clevo soon, all the new Clevos are only out during intel's CPU/motherboard revision. Clarksfield is quite recent. At most they will have is a bios/motherboard revision, like the arrandale support recently.

 

When do you think would that revision come out even it's only a speculation?

 

The W8x0CU already had it's revision. The notebook was given a new motherboard to support the electrical pinout for Arrandale CPU's. It was also given the GTX 285M and MR 5870 as options for the GPU, but those only need the 1.00.05 BIOS or later in order to run. Other than that, nothing else on official roadmaps warrant a major or minor refresh to the notebook. Intel is in no rush to release the mobile Sandy Bridge platform. The only thing on my handy little map is a binned up 920XM ill dubbed the 940XM, cheaper 4GB sticks, 640GB 7200RPM HDD's (heavily biased preference towards Seagate), and this mysterious successor to the GTX 285M.

But again, aside from my own personal roadmap, who knows what might happen in the next few months. Clevo might hit the showroom floor with something new and exciting at Computex in June again just like last year.

 

Their next refresh will probably be their 17" D900F and their 18.4", which is lagging a bit behind currently.

 

Does RJTech already sell those revised W8x0CU's?

Why are you leaning towards Seagate heavily?

And do you have even a slightest clue for the mysterious successor for the 285M?

 

RJTech has been selling the revised W8x0CU's since the Arrandale CPU's were available as an option to install in the notebook. I think it has been over a month now since the new motherboard was put into service. But if you don't plan on installing a dual core on this notebook, the revision bears no purpose.

It's just my preference. All of my HDD's are Seagate's. Not a single one has failed on me. http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=5772631&postcount=206.

No. My guess is just as good as the next person's.

 

Ok.

What's your take in the 5870 vs. 285M war?

 

There's no war

 

It's a one sided slaughter where 5870 destroys 285

 

I'd say the 285M more than holds it's own against the 5870.
Yes the 5870 is superior but the 285M has proved a very,very good GPU.

 

So more people still vouch for the 5870?

 

If you buy a new laptop now, get the 5870.

 

The MR 5870 is the best card in raw performance right now. It can also overclock comfortably well over 25% while the GTX 285M can only top out at a 15% overclock. If the W860CU is to be a new notebook for someone, then there is no reason to choose the MR 5870. If someone already has the GTX 285M, the decision will be more dependent on whether they can patiently sell their card at a decent price to pick up the cost of getting the MR 5870M.

 

Justbto confirm, did you mean there's no reason to choose 'between' the two cards? Or is it really no reason to choose the 5870?

Any overheating problems with the MR 5870? I'm reading that some people have the GPU RAM thermal pads not flushed priperly to the copper heatsink?

What's up with ATI's driver support? And what utility can OC ATI cards?

 

What I mean is, if you already have the GTX 285M, then there really isn't worth the hassle selling it for the MR 5870 if your reason is for performance. If you are buying a new W860CU, then go for the MR 5870 over the GTX 285M.

 

@ Soviet:
So, let's put it in a different way, if Nvidia would have released a card performing at the same level as the MR 5870, would you upgrade to that Nvidia card?

 

I would upgrade to that Nvidia card regardless of whether it was performing at the same level as the MR 5870 or not. But my real deal maker right now is to sit on my GTX 285M until the last Nvidia card is released for this notebook.

 

So you would never take an ATI card as your own vidcard?

 

If the MR 5870 existed when I bought my W870CU last year, I would have taken it over the GTX 280M. But then again, it would have taken a lot of consideration to go with ATi over Nvidia. I still have my beefs with the MR 5870, a few of them you already mentioned, whereas the GTX 285M is just showing it's age.

 

To answer your questions. The primary heat problem seems to be that the heatsink is not always sitting flush with the gpu. It is pretty easy to fix if you have a problem with it. The mobile drivers are now released along with the standard monthly driver release for all cards. You can OC with amd gpu clock tool

 

How do you fix that primary heat problem? That is considered to be a major problem.

Also, it's not the WHOLE heatsink not being flushed on the GPU, only the thermal pads of the RAM chips of the GPU are not making good contact with the heatsink.

 

It is not the ram chips. It is poor contact with the GPU die due to a couple different factors. You can look in the threads for the relevant notebooks for the discussion about fixes.

 

Ok. Is this present with all MR 5870 in the W860CU? Or just a couple of lemons?

 

Just a couple of lemons, so far, I've only seen 1 guy who had this problem on this forum, that is not caused by himself, at least from what he says.(my case was caused by myself).

 

And you're referrig to sp-1 right?

I'm weary about the MR 5870 about this problem if I ever decide to have another W860CU with that card.

 

When you order, just ask the Sager to confirm that there is contact between the GPU and the heatsink, it's not something difficult to do.

 

Asking Sager to make sure that there is contact between the GPU die and the heatsink is like asking Sager to properly apply thermal paste.

 

Sager thermal paste applicator

 

Yeah, and RJTech is my reseller. I asked them about it, their reply was "it COULD happen if the end-user re-applies thermal paste to the GPU so it is best to live the GPU in its manufacturer default state". What a helpful answer, they don't want to accept or just even check that there is really a potential problem with the MR 5870.

 

Even if the reseller did apply it right, we as a curious and nitpicky community are just going to open it up again anyway. There are people that have the MR 5870 and have come up with clever ways to address the heatsink "issue." Everyone in this thread that has touched a syringe of thermal paste knows that less is more. These kinds of discussions occur most of the time because of users that do not have the notebook, or the MR 5870 in this case, that are curious of how they can proceed with it before they actually get the notebook. Many times these kinds of situations spiral into complaining about a someone instead of a something because of what an official representative of a company said. I'm pretty sure my cards would have been hot as a fireball too had I not replaced the thermal paste or replaced the thermal pads before it's first use under my ownership.

You guys know the solution.

Just do it.

 

Does NIKE sponsor you!

 

Ah. So from the very start, it is always best to replace the stock thermal pads as well. I myself only replace the thermal paste and never tried to replace thermal pads, so I guess I need to know how.

 

Not necessarily the thermal pads, rather it is the thermal paste that needs replacing from day one. It doesn't matter how thermal pads are "applied"; as long as they are there, they will do their job. The only time when they will fail to do their job is when the reseller has put in the wrong size pads, which has not been the case in any Clevo.

 

I actually had an issue where two of the pads were to thick on my 5870. I think it was just a mistake when they put it together as they were double the thickness of the other pads on similar components.

 

It's meant to have 2 thick pads, because if you would notice, the heatsink has 2 depressions, so you will need thicker pads for those 2 areas.

 

@fzhfzh

So you also have 2 thicker pads in your heatsink right now?

 

it comes like that, the thermal pads in the heatsink is custom made to fit perfectly. Probably not thicker, but they made 2-3 stick together or something.

 

I can assure you the ones on my heatsink were causing a problem. I have been working with heatsinks and thermal pads for years and these were not the correct thickness. They were causing my heatsink to sit at such an angle on my card that the edge of my gpu die was not making contact with the thermal compound. As I stated before other components of the exact same height both on the card side and heatsink location had thermal pads that were half the thickness. I worked as a mechanical design engineer for years, and I fully understand the difference in heights of components and spacing needed for thermal pads. If I still had access to a height stand I would just map the entire surface of the card and heatsink to supply us all with exact thermal pad thicknesses.